10" wide wheels too narrow for 305 tires?

9SECDD · 12-30-2015, 08:29 PM

Soliciting opinions/perspectives on wheel widths from those who know: How bad is it to run 305 wide tires on 10" wide wheels?

I currently have HRE FF01 10" wide wheels in back, with Bridgestone RE71R 285/35/19s on them. Great tires for their size, btw. But still desire more traction out back and will be going to 305 RE11 (they sadly don't make the RE71Rs wider than 285) rears in the spring. I'm figuring I need 11" wide wheels to maximize contact patch and gain more traction (rboshave tune and adding larger turbos soon).

Before I go drop $8k on new wheels (love the look of the HRE wheels, so will likely go with P100s): can I get away with 305s on the 10" wide wheels? Minimum wheel width recommended for the tires is 10.5". How critical is that 1/2 inch to 1"?

Thanks for any and all opinions from those who know!

CanAutM3 · 12-31-2015, 08:03 AM

If it is more traction you are after, stick with the RE71R. The narrower RE71R will likely give you more grip than the wider RE11.

Further, 10" wheels are outside the 10.5"-11.5" recommended range for 305 RE11 tires, so the tire will not perform optimally.

BeamerandBimmer · 12-31-2015, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by CanAutM3

If it is more traction you are after, stick with the RE71R. The narrower RE71R will likely give you more grip than the wider RE11.

Further, 10" wheels are outside the 10.5"-11.5" recommended range for 305 RE11 tires, so the tire will not perform optimally.

I'm looking for tires for AX to put on a set of 513s. There is nothing that comes up for stock sizes on Tirerack's website. But if I go with 255/35/18 and 275/35/18 then both the RE-11 and the RE-71r come up as options. In your opinion which tire is better for light track and AX purposes?

supremepower · 01-01-2016, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by CanAutM3

If it is more traction you are after, stick with the RE71R. The narrower RE71R will likely give you more grip than the wider RE11.

Further, 10" wheels are outside the 10.5"-11.5" recommended range for 305 RE11 tires, so the tire will not perform optimally.

I'm looking for tires for AX to put on a set of 513s. There is nothing that comes up for stock sizes on Tirerack's website. But if I go with 255/35/18 and 275/35/18 then both the RE-11 and the RE-71r come up as options. In your opinion which tire is better for light track and AX purposes?

Definitely the RE71.

13M5F10 · 01-01-2016, 08:14 AM

Depends on the tire, I currently am running 305 on my M5 which is a 10" wheel and have no issues whatsoever with fitment. I say it depends on the tire because some tires have narrower sidewalls than others. Example, Michelin has a wider sidewall therefor they will have some bulging around the wheels. Pirelli PZero have a narrower sidewall so they fit on perfectly.

I've ran 315 on a 10" wheel as well. Had to go with Nitto Invos for that one and they looked great.

9SECDD · 01-01-2016, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CanAutM3

If it is more traction you are after, stick with the RE71R. The narrower RE71R will likely give you more grip than the wider RE11.

Further, 10" wheels are outside the 10.5"-11.5" recommended range for 305 RE11 tires, so the tire will not perform optimally.

Interesting. I wasn't aware that the RE71Rs were that superior in grip to the RE11s. Good to know. I sure wish they made the RE71Rs wider!

Any other grippy extreme summer tires that you (or anyone) recommend that come in 305s? R888s? advan Neova AD08s? Others?

9SECDD · 01-01-2016, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by supremepower

Definitely the RE71.

Any other grippy extreme summer tires that you (or anyone) recommend that come in 305s? R888s? advan Neova AD08s? Others?

CanAutM3 · 01-01-2016, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 13M5F10

Depends on the tire, I currently am running 305 on my M5 which is a 10" wheel and have no issues whatsoever with fitment. I say it depends on the tire because some tires have narrower sidewalls than others. Example, Michelin has a wider sidewall therefor they will have some bulging around the wheels. Pirelli PZero have a narrower sidewall so they fit on perfectly.

I've ran 315 on a 10" wheel as well. Had to go with Nitto Invos for that one and they looked great.

Agreed, it depends on the tire spec.

As I posted previously, the Bridgestone specify a 10.5"-11.5" wheel width for the RE11.

larryn · 01-01-2016, 02:46 PM

I think many of us have run slightly larger tires than the wheel spec. I used to do this for driving events, as you have lower tire pressure at the track and you do still make decent tread contact patch. Yes, it is not optimal, but it is not terrible either.

If you are not planning on tracking that setup, you'll likely just experience non-unexpected tire wear. Also, as stated, different tires have different characteristics and may look more bulging that others.

hjl113 · 07-29-2020, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 13M5F10

Depends on the tire, I currently am running 305 on my M5 which is a 10" wheel and have no issues whatsoever with fitment. I say it depends on the tire because some tires have narrower sidewalls than others. Example, Michelin has a wider sidewall therefor they will have some bulging around the wheels. Pirelli PZero have a narrower sidewall so they fit on perfectly.

I've ran 315 on a 10" wheel as well. Had to go with Nitto Invos for that one and they looked great.

Any issues on driving dynamic with the 305s?
I have same F10 M5 and trying to decide if I should do stock 295 or 305.
Any concerns on high speed driving?

Much appreciated.

13M5F10 · 07-29-2020, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by hjl113

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Originally Posted by 13M5F10

Depends on the tire, I currently am running 305 on my M5 which is a 10" wheel and have no issues whatsoever with fitment. I say it depends on the tire because some tires have narrower sidewalls than others. Example, Michelin has a wider sidewall therefor they will have some bulging around the wheels. Pirelli PZero have a narrower sidewall so they fit on perfectly.

I've ran 315 on a 10" wheel as well. Had to go with Nitto Invos for that one and they looked great.

Any issues on driving dynamic with the 305s?
I have same F10 M5 and trying to decide if I should do stock 295 or 305.
Any concerns on high speed driving?

Much appreciated.

None at all. Just make sure you get the proper loading. If you lok. at the pic, fitment was perfect. There is another same size tire with different loading (maybe SUV) and the fitment was off, major bulging, and didn't ride well.

hjl113 · 07-29-2020, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 13M5F10

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Originally Posted by hjl113

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Originally Posted by 13M5F10

Depends on the tire, I currently am running 305 on my M5 which is a 10" wheel and have no issues whatsoever with fitment. I say it depends on the tire because some tires have narrower sidewalls than others. Example, Michelin has a wider sidewall therefor they will have some bulging around the wheels. Pirelli PZero have a narrower sidewall so they fit on perfectly.

I've ran 315 on a 10" wheel as well. Had to go with Nitto Invos for that one and they looked great.

Any issues on driving dynamic with the 305s?
I have same F10 M5 and trying to decide if I should do stock 295 or 305.
Any concerns on high speed driving?

Much appreciated.

None at all. Just make sure you get the proper loading. If you lok. at the pic, fitment was perfect. There is another same size tire with different loading (maybe SUV) and the fitment was off, major bulging, and didn't ride well.

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Originally Posted by 13M5F10

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Originally Posted by hjl113

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Originally Posted by 13M5F10

Depends on the tire, I currently am running 305 on my M5 which is a 10" wheel and have no issues whatsoever with fitment. I say it depends on the tire because some tires have narrower sidewalls than others. Example, Michelin has a wider sidewall therefor they will have some bulging around the wheels. Pirelli PZero have a narrower sidewall so they fit on perfectly.

I've ran 315 on a 10" wheel as well. Had to go with Nitto Invos for that one and they looked great.

Any issues on driving dynamic with the 305s?
I have same F10 M5 and trying to decide if I should do stock 295 or 305.
Any concerns on high speed driving?

Much appreciated.

None at all. Just make sure you get the proper loading. If you lok. at the pic, fitment was perfect. There is another same size tire with different loading (maybe SUV) and the fitment was off, major bulging, and didn't ride well.

I was looking at PS4S, which only comes in 103y.
Do you think it will be ok? Which tire and loading did you have?

13M5F10 · 07-29-2020, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by hjl113

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Originally Posted by 13M5F10

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Originally Posted by hjl113

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Originally Posted by 13M5F10

Depends on the tire, I currently am running 305 on my M5 which is a 10" wheel and have no issues whatsoever with fitment. I say it depends on the tire because some tires have narrower sidewalls than others. Example, Michelin has a wider sidewall therefor they will have some bulging around the wheels. Pirelli PZero have a narrower sidewall so they fit on perfectly.

I've ran 315 on a 10" wheel as well. Had to go with Nitto Invos for that one and they looked great.

Any issues on driving dynamic with the 305s?
I have same F10 M5 and trying to decide if I should do stock 295 or 305.
Any concerns on high speed driving?

Much appreciated.

None at all. Just make sure you get the proper loading. If you lok. at the pic, fitment was perfect. There is another same size tire with different loading (maybe SUV) and the fitment was off, major bulging, and didn't ride well.

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Originally Posted by 13M5F10

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Originally Posted by hjl113

Quote:

Originally Posted by 13M5F10

Depends on the tire, I currently am running 305 on my M5 which is a 10" wheel and have no issues whatsoever with fitment. I say it depends on the tire because some tires have narrower sidewalls than others. Example, Michelin has a wider sidewall therefor they will have some bulging around the wheels. Pirelli PZero have a narrower sidewall so they fit on perfectly.

I've ran 315 on a 10" wheel as well. Had to go with Nitto Invos for that one and they looked great.

Any issues on driving dynamic with the 305s?
I have same F10 M5 and trying to decide if I should do stock 295 or 305.
Any concerns on high speed driving?

Much appreciated.

None at all. Just make sure you get the proper loading. If you lok. at the pic, fitment was perfect. There is another same size tire with different loading (maybe SUV) and the fitment was off, major bulging, and didn't ride well.

I was looking at PS4S, which only comes in 103y.
Do you think it will be ok? Which tire and loading did you have?

You're good. I got mixed up. It was Pirelli that I had those issues with.

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