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A better analogy would be that you used to have front seats to the Metallica concert and could hear them without loudspeakers. Now the seats are a bit further back so the volume has to be amplified a bit through speakers so you can get the same experience (plus adding some of those sounds you missed out on at the front row seats because the lead guitarist played so loud you couldn't hear the keyboard ) |
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09-27-2013, 03:48 PM | #112 |
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What a surprise most of the complainers are e90/e92 M3 owners . Been looking for something to complain about on the new M3?
I'm a former e90 M3 owner too and not so insecure that I need to complain about something small like this. Overlooking all the good stuff like specs and concentrate on a small issue like this. Please....
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09-27-2013, 03:58 PM | #113 | |
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A: Acoustic concert with no microphones or amplifiers. ( E90 M3 ) B: Concert with microphones and amplifiers ( M4 ) C: Lip sync concert. ( M5 ) It's more than aural candy though. Engine noise helps determining shift points, engine health etc. you really want it to be live and natural. The M4 solution sounds promising since here you should hear the true rpms and any hiccups from the engine the moment they occur but again it's another tech solution to what used to be naturally there. Hopefully it can be switched off so we have the choice. Last edited by solstice; 09-27-2013 at 04:12 PM.. |
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The idea does seem ridiculous. I'm sure everyone would be laughing if some ricer hooked up a microphone in their engine bay and connected it to the speakers to make the car seem louder than it actually is. But I can see how it can be appealing if you want to hear the engine better when driving with the windows up And it's probably something that everyone is going to have to get used to since engines will continue to get quieter, along with sound deadening, and government regulations |
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This is what I am curious about as well. At what point was it decided that Active Sound was a better route to go instead of being "au naturale"? Hopefully it can be disabled through coding at some point.
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Why is it hard to believe?
Several cars today have active noise cancellation of some sort. Microphones pick up ambient noise or engine noise and play it back 180 degrees out of sync to combat unwanted sounds. Honda does this, Acura, Audi does it when their V8T runs in 4 cylinder mode. It's not rocket science. |
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Hell, even if it's not, look at the pictures, the block is substantially different. |
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I owned a 335i, a 1M and currently drive a M135i. All are 3L turbo variants. Of these, only the M135i does have active sound, and I like it.
It allows you to experience the engine note, without pedestrians making gestures at you that you're a lunatic driver. In other words: it doesn't scream at the outside anymore, but it can still be heard well inside the cabin. Also: it's not like you really notice this active sound feature. Infact, if noone told you, you'd never know. Just saying it's not trying to emulate any non-natural sound. It's more like adding 10 decibels to the actual sound level... |
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I think I might follow. Looking at what the 2015 Merc's C AMG will come up with. For now it appears to be a 4.0 TT V8. IMHO that's what the F8x M's should have been...
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No active noise > noise "tube" or other mechanical connection from the engine to the compartment which amplifies noise > active sound from speakers being an amplified version of actual noise recorded > active sound from speakers being a recording. Kind of like: natural tits > really good fake tits > middle of the road saline fake tits > 50 year old hooker silicone fake tits with weirdly placed nipples and a big scar. |
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Also, you don't "hear" the Active sound. If nobody told you it was there, you would't know. |
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LOL some folks might not know what this statement refers to
You either showing your age or you're in the know, either way it all good I got another one: "should'a had a.............
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