Upcoming Cadillac CT5 will dominate the 3 Series and C Class

[benny Blanco]

https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...-ct5-spy-shots

Looks like the Cadillac is in the game now. This is a CT5 (a D-class car), which will fight against the 3-series, A4, C-class.

Caddy's new president knows what to do. Lots of fake parts here, but to me it already looks much more intresting than the Bimmer. I’m sure it will be the best car in class, inside and out.

Bye-bye 3 series. Ciao C-class.

[DML]

Originally Posted by benny Blanco

http://i12.pixs.ru/storage/9/4/0/201...3_29218940.jpg


Looks like the Cadillac is in the game now. This is a CT5(a D-class car), which will fight against the 3-series, A4,C-class.
Caddy's new president knows what to do. Lots of fake parts here, but to me it already looks much more intresting than the Bimmer.
Im sure it will be the best car in class, inside and out.

Bye-bye 3 series. Ciao C-class.

You're probably right but the stigma of driving a "Caddy" Porsche please

[hwelvaar]

Originally Posted by benny Blanco

http://i12.pixs.ru/storage/9/4/0/201...3_29218940.jpg


Looks like the Cadillac is in the game now. This is a CT5(a D-class car), which will fight against the 3-series, A4,C-class.
Caddy's new president knows what to do. Lots of fake parts here, but to me it already looks much more intresting than the Bimmer.
Im sure it will be the best car in class, inside and out.

Bye-bye 3 series. Ciao C-class.

"Hey, what do you drive?"

"M3"

"Really ? Wauw!"

"And you?"

"CT5"

"Uhm, ok..."


=> case closed

[Madvillain]

Originally Posted by hwelvaar

"Hey, what do you drive?"

"M3"

"Really ? Wauw!"

"And you?"

"CT5"

"Uhm, ok..."


=> case closed

agreed. car that consistanly proves to be best in its class with every model year orrrrr a GM product copying that formula and throwing in their own tech and build quality.... there is no comp here. look at the ctsv vs the comp so much extra power and torque and what of it? it doesnt any better quarter mile times than any of the german compeditors and is slower from a roll than the m5 and e63. it has apprently proven to be engaging to drive and can get good lap times for its size. but garbage laggy tech, cheap materials and what of it in 5 6 years? its gm product afterall.... that new caddy is destined for the same fate.

[tetsuo111]

Originally Posted by DML

You're probably right but the stigma of driving a "Caddy" Porsche please

Originally Posted by hwelvaar

"Hey, what do you drive?"

"M3"

"Really ? Wauw!"

"And you?"

"CT5"

"Uhm, ok..."


=> case closed

Interesting.

I drove a Cadillac recently. Closing the car door reminds me of a 70s - 80s vintage Mercedes. The platform is bank-vault solid.

The driving dynamics of the Cadillac are noticeably superior to German anything, aside from Porsche.

My last F-series loaner car reminded me of my father's old Buick in size and driving dynamics.

Funny, I was a fan of BMW when the Roundel wasn't a status symbol. In fact, I had to explain to others why I chose the quirky, unknown German car. The sad irony is I would be embarrassed driving a current Bimmer, not the Cadillac. If we include high-performance on track, it isn't close.

Case closed.

[goj]

Originally Posted by tetsuo111

Interesting.

I drove a Cadillac recently. Closing the car door reminds me of a 70s - 80s vintage Mercedes. The platform is bank-vault solid.

The driving dynamics of the Cadillac are noticeably superior to German anything, aside from Porsche.

My last F-series loaner car reminded me of my father's old Buick in size and driving dynamics.

Funny, I was a fan of BMW when the Roundel wasn't a status symbol. In fact, I had to explain to others why I chose the quirky, unknown German car. The sad irony is I would be embarrassed driving a current Bimmer, not the Cadillac. If we include high-performance on track, it isn't close.

Case closed.

I drove an e92 335i before my 340i and I don't feel embarrassed. In fact it's better in every aspect but steering imo.

But then again maybe I would have the same opinion if the only f30 I drove was a base suspension 320i or 330i

[tetsuo111]

Originally Posted by goj

I drove an e92 335i before my 340i and I don't feel embarrassed. In fact it's better in every aspect but steering imo.

But then again maybe I would have the same opinion if the only f30 I drove was a base suspension 320i or 330i

Steering feel and feedback are a priority for me.

I can understand that they may not be for everyone.

[goj]

Originally Posted by tetsuo111

Steering feel and feedback is a priority for me.

I can understand that it may not be for everyone.

That's fine I enjoy the analog feel of the e9x - it took some getting used to and I wish the F30 had more.

But it is in every other way superior to my old car

[DML]

Originally Posted by tetsuo111

Interesting.

I drove a Cadillac recently. Closing the car door reminds me of a 70s - 80s vintage Mercedes. The platform is bank-vault solid.

The driving dynamics of the Cadillac are noticeably superior to German anything, aside from Porsche.

My last F-series loaner car reminded me of my father's old Buick in size and driving dynamics.

Funny, I was a fan of BMW when the Roundel wasn't a status symbol. In fact, I had to explain to others why I chose the quirky, unknown German car. The sad irony is I would be embarrassed driving a current Bimmer, not the Cadillac. If we include high-performance on track, it isn't close.

Case closed.

Are you from the Jersey Shore?? Really would like to ask a current Cadillac driver his/hers opinions, trouble is I don't know any, truth Case closed.

[benny Blanco]

Originally Posted by hwelvaar

"Hey, what do you drive?"

"M3"

"Really ? Wauw!"

"And you?"

"CT5"

"Uhm, ok..."


=> case closed

It is not closed. And this is not a CTS. Cadillac has been away for a long time, but they are coming back.

Btw, there are no production Cadillacs that have been created under their new president yet. The XT4 is the first, then this.
Its gonna be a different story now...

The conservative BMW with the dated interior will be outclassed easy. Now the is Case closed.

[benny Blanco]

Originally Posted by Madvillain

agreed. car that consistanly proves to be best in its class with every model year orrrrr a GM product copying that formula and throwing in their own tech and build quality.... there is no comp here. look at the ctsv vs the comp so much extra power and torque and what of it? it doesnt any better quarter mile times than any of the german compeditors and is slower from a roll than the m5 and e63. it has apprently proven to be engaging to drive and can get good lap times for its size. but garbage laggy tech, cheap materials and what of it in 5 6 years? its gm product afterall.... that new caddy is destined for the same fate.

Fake news.

[Sleeper]

Originally Posted by tetsuo111

Interesting.

I drove a Cadillac recently. Closing the car door reminds me of a 70s - 80s vintage Mercedes. The platform is bank-vault solid.

The driving dynamics of the Cadillac are noticeably superior to German anything, aside from Porsche.

My last F-series loaner car reminded me of my father's old Buick in size and driving dynamics.

Funny, I was a fan of BMW when the Roundel wasn't a status symbol. In fact, I had to explain to others why I chose the quirky, unknown German car. The sad irony is I would be embarrassed driving a current Bimmer, not the Cadillac. If we include high-performance on track, it isn't close.

Case closed.

Feel better?

[MacklinUSOB]

Originally Posted by benny Blanco

It is not closed. And this is not a CTS. Cadillac has been away for a long time, but they are coming back.

Btw, there are no production Cadillacs that have been created under their new president yet. The XT4 is the first, then this.
Its gonna be a different story now...

The conservative BMW with the dated interior will be outclassed easy. Now the is Case closed.

"Coming back"

High-performance Caddilac is a very recent creation unless your concept of BMW's harbinger is the rebirth of the DeVille. If interiors were what has drawn you to BMW, you have spent your money poorly.

Also, re-read the comment you replied to, it clearly reads "CT5". Not even you can see the difference!

Let's wait until these vehicles are available to "interrogate" before opening or closing any cases, shall we?

[Madvillain]

Originally Posted by benny Blanco

Fake news.

everything i said was true if youre the type to like new designs go ahead and buy the ctshit5 itll be worse in every way. ill agree the s55 did sound pre dam bad and there is pre much no way of fixing it but s58 hasnt even debuted yet on the x3m and youre claiming the cadi will be better lol chill out. not saying this new m3 is any special or that id ever even consider getting it but dont throw that pos gm product in the mix.

[spuntyb]

Originally Posted by Madvillain

everything i said was true if youre the type to like new designs go ahead and buy the ctshit5 itll be worse in every way. ill agree the s55 did sound pre dam bad and there is pre much no way of fixing it but s58 hasnt even debuted yet on the x3m and youre claiming the cadi will be better lol chill out. not saying this new m3 is any special or that id ever even consider getting it but dont throw that pos gm product in the mix.

BuT lEGenDarY GM BUIld QUAliTy!!!

[aaaaah]

Pretty much every reviewer has the ATS-V being the better drivers car than the M3.


Now about the Caddy's interior and CUE......

[perryo91]

Originally Posted by tetsuo111

Interesting.

I drove a Cadillac recently. Closing the car door reminds me of a 70s - 80s vintage Mercedes. The platform is bank-vault solid.

The driving dynamics of the Cadillac are noticeably superior to German anything, aside from Porsche.

My last F-series loaner car reminded me of my father's old Buick in size and driving dynamics.

Funny, I was a fan of BMW when the Roundel wasn't a status symbol. In fact, I had to explain to others why I chose the quirky, unknown German car. The sad irony is I would be embarrassed driving a current Bimmer, not the Cadillac. If we include high-performance on track, it isn't close.

Case closed.

You're judging a whole chassis over a base loaner?

It's got no "sporty" suspension or heavy steering that you're used to in your e9x chassis... cmon man. Even the 335 m sport feels magnitudes better than the loaners I've been in. Don't even get me started on the M.

It's a status symbol and you'd be "embarrassed" because that's your personality. That's not reflective of the car. So I don't know how you're shitting on the bimmer when your only comment with merit is a closing door.

Also, steering and feel are the most important to you? Then get a 90s miata/e30/e36... but wait let me guess, it wont have enough power or options as a modern caddy

Case closed.

[perryo91]

Originally Posted by goj

That's fine I enjoy the analog feel of the e9x - it took some getting used to and I wish the F30 had more.

But it is in every other way superior to my old car

I agree man, I had a 320 for a 3 year lease and then financed a 335 with m sport once it was crazy...

This car feels tighter in every way and the brakes are delicious (370mm).

Close enough to an m3 for me... I dont mind at all waiting 4-5 years to jump into an M

[insanecoder]

Itll be a tall order .. my bets are they wont pull it off
companies been saying this for years model after model
and because the 3 is a moving target
G20 is coming

[perryo91]

Originally Posted by benny Blanco

It is not closed. And this is not a CTS. Cadillac has been away for a long time, but they are coming back.

Btw, there are no production Cadillacs that have been created under their new president yet. The XT4 is the first, then this.
Its gonna be a different story now...

The conservative BMW with the dated interior will be outclassed easy. Now the is Case closed.

Dude, I'm sorry, but I rather have the "dated interior" over the Cadillacs dashboard with angles and high gloss plastic.

I'm not sure if you've seen pictures of the CTS, but I just looked them up and it looks like a japanese car's interior.

No thanks.

Case closed.

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by aaaaah

Pretty much every reviewer has the ATS-V being the better drivers car than the M3.


Now about the Caddy's interior and CUE......

Yep, there's your problem. The ATS is already a dynamically better car than the F30/F80, but the interior and interface are awful. Add in awful resale and it's a hard sell.

Seriously, $70k car or a $22/day Avis rental?
[IMG]https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-5...31-876x535.jpg[/IMG]

[aozer]

Originally Posted by hwelvaar

"Hey, what do you drive?"

"M3"

"Really ? Wauw!"

"And you?"

"CT5"

"Uhm, ok..."


=> case closed

Some people aren’t so insecure that they need to buy a car to impress other people... but hey, you do you.