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a photo from a track day this weekend. the guy driving the car (100% stock on pirelli p zeros, I think) is probably a little better of a driver than me. we were both in the same session but never lined up together .. I sadly never saw him once. beautiful car though!
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Great choice. As I said in your other thread, if i didn't need the extra space / utility, I'd have gotten the F type in lieu of the M3. Love the drama of that V8.
On a very loosely related note, I just picked up a new RRS with the SC V8. That motor feels beastly even strapped to a 5,200 lb SUV (and it's only 510hp in the RRS). Not to mention its sound. It's weird having the wife's car sound better than my own. |
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04-04-2016, 10:47 PM | #51 |
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Great car for sure. Looks slick and mean... sounds great. But if you say that the M4 has no soul and this under-performing Jag with no manual does , LOL! M4 with ZCP will have soul. Spend another 10K on M Perf and MPE exhaust on it oh yah, it'll really have soul.
They are both great cars but it's 110K vs 75K, 2 seater vs 4, hotrod muscle vs light agile turbo. I can't defend the M4 even though I love it... the Jag edges this one but not by much.
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I never understood that. Just because someone moves away from the M3/4 doesn't make him a bad person, damn Congrats on the new ride OP. Definitely one of the more interesting cars around
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Absolutely beautiful car.....enjoy it in the best of health!
As much as I adore my F80, i'd drop it in a heartbeat for this car at that payment. Not a knock on the M, more of a testament to the visceral response I have to the F-Type R.
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I've driven both cars hell I considered the f type r. Didn't fit my needs but the driving dynamics and transmission aren't even close to the M. But cool story bro, really cool.
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I can't compare the driving dynamic of Jag with M4 since I just have limited seat time on both car but after driving the 650i for 2 years with exact the same transmission of Jag (ZF8HP70) and then M6 with the DCT for over 2 years I can tell you they are not even close... Although ZF is smoother but not as fast and sharp as DCT + the superiority of clutch over torque converter (i.e. the creep of ZF or the lack of traditional physical connection between the flywheel and clutch disc)... In my opinion, DCT has more sporty feeling than ZF
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In all honesty, the M4 also under-performs is many ways (Sound, traction issues etc) . Look at what the new Camaro SS at half the price is doing to the M4 as well, so the price argument is somewhat moot. The only thing I would consider somewhat of a valid argument is the DCT vs ZF as we know that the DCT is way faster in shifts etc. To each his own is all Im saying. |
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Congrats, nice car. This comes with a manual http://www.jaguar.ca/en/all-models/f...echnology.html
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The lease deal was I think a very rare one, but if you feel the need to go searching. Jaguar of Seattle. Ask for Dmitri and ask about under a 1000 a month for an F-Type R.
It's a new month so no idea if the rates are different especially incentives. They have two F-Type R's in stock if I'm not mistaken. Small update: The car gets 1000x more looks than my old M4 did. It sounds like an eargasm driving around and the pops/crackles NEVER gets old. It's very fast as well. It's completely civilized when exhaust is off/transmission is in D/ etc. Guys, I'm sorry.. but either BMW needs to step it up or just stop making M's. LOL. Current offerings just can't compete the the visceral competition out right now. Went to cars and coffee here locally and rode in a 991 GT3 and a Shelby GT350... and I mean damn BMW. Where did you lose your way? Those cars are 50k and the other 130k... yet both had this draw on me (as well as others). Obviously price is not the factor here anymore... look what Camaro SS's are doing to the forums (I know it's an ugly car, but for 35k..) |
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My quote wan on his 90% and then for your information there is difference between the word "fast" and " faster" ... in this case both transmissions are fast but DCT is twice faster no matter you can or you can't feel it... and if you read my quotes correctly (again) I didn't say for 100 ms I changed my car or stopped me.. did I?
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I don't see what all the hype is about the looks of this Jag. To me it's sort of like a cheap knock off of an Aston Martin DB and it doesn't exude a sense of being a premium brand anymore. Maybe that's due to Ford getting involved and now an Indian car company (Tata)? The premium image is no longer there for me I'm sorry.
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I sat in one and started it up once, but didn't drive. Not one thing didn't feel premium. I do think the wheels need some work. They look *Chevrolet* to me a bit. |
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