M4 accidentally ordered without adaptive suspension

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by SOM3

Passive seems too stiff for DD duties, order a new car.

I sense sarcasm. It must be!

[Audio Fan]

Get the dealer to pay for the cost in changing your tickets etc and get the adaptive suspension, if you use this car for a DD. The comfort is nice, I used it on the E 92 M3 a lot. The new cars are more stiff.

[DieGrüneHölle]

From bimmerpost review:

That said, when optioning my own M4/3, I would save the money and forgo the extra complexity by retaining the conventional suspension. It functioned equally well at maximum pressure and the slightly harsher ride did not upset me enough to make EDC mandatory.

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=997663

[DieGrüneHölle]

It is the one option I would leave off the car. It just becomes useless anyways when you upgrade to a proper adjustable coilover suspension.

[pillpusher84]

Originally Posted by IMrMark

Get the dealer to cut you an extra deal for the mistake and enjoy the car!

+1 ... I hear good things about the passive suspension on the F80

[Wei718]

Another thing to question is will you think about getting coilovers later down the line?

[modkrazy]

Originally Posted by nachob

I was traveling in France with some other guys and they got a recommendation about a great chef that had his own restaurant. The critics raved about his food. So we went to the restaurant. This guy spent years in French schools, working in top French restaurants, apprenticeships, etc to become a great chef and make culinary works of art. So after the long wait and this guy making this masterpiece, my buddy takes salt and pepper and adds it to the food without even tasting it.

I would punch him in his fucking face.

That's like the people who order well-done steak. Savages.

[pillpusher84]

Originally Posted by modkrazy

I would punch him in his fucking face.

That's like the people who order well-done steak. Savages.

lol ... I love it!

Who does that kinda shit? If I was the chef I would punch him in the face, and refuse to cook I mean ruin food by cooking past medium-rare!

[acey81]

Haven't driven the passive suspension, but I'm using my as a dd over the summer and I spend most of my time in the comfort setting. For the street it is perfect and still keeps body control in check. I can't even imagine sport plus being suited for the track. I like to feel the car and if the passive suspension is the same as sport on the adaptive, it would be a bit too firm for me everyday.

Make sure you get a great deal if you go for the car. You should be greatly compensated.

[bvez3ro]

Originally Posted by 1stm3f80

Passive all the way!!

Me too. Don't need adaptive suspension.

[Race_Doc11]

It will work in your favor if you are planning to lower the car. You will not have to worry about the EDC.

Originally Posted by angelc5

I have a problem with my build and I need someone to easy my mind, I went to my dealer to finalize my paper work for My M4 ED pick up on July 11 and while I was sitting with my sales person the numbers were not matching, mine numbers were higher than his come to find out he left out the Adaptive M suspension from my build. The problem is that today the car was already in the body shop and no changes can be made, I was not very happy with him specially that I have everything plan for my trip. He did told me that they can eat that car and order another one for me but it will not be ready for 3 to 4 months. My question is, do I really need the Adaptive Suspension what can or should I do about this problem.

And this is from the supposedly the #1 BMW dealer in the USA.

[stressdoc]

I don't know, it seems like we keep missing what adaptive suspension is all about. The ability to specify comfort, sport, sport-plus is the easy part. The really cool thing about adaptive suspension is that it micro-adjusts to near-instantaneously respond to movements at each wheel.

At some point it should be possible to program changes in time at each wheel to adjust to exact locations on a race course. The only piece missing is military-spec GPS.

[stupot]

The dealers at fault here, so should be putting you in the wrong car and ordering you a correct car and then swap them at nil cost.

[dawgdog]

Passive suspension does not seem firm vis a vis my RS. Feels planted but very comfortable. Even in the RS I usually pick the stiffer setting. Most likely at some point the suspension will be upgraded and then I will be glad I do not have to deal with disabling the adaptive electronics.

[mact3333]

I wouldn't worry about it cause for me, I would need to lower this car asap...wheel gap looks like an SUV...may handle well but doesn't look right for this car imho.

I was going to get a car with adaptive but now don't care, as it will need full on coil overs.

[Racer20]

Originally Posted by nachob

Dynamic suspension is the Costco one-size-fits-all frozen version IMHO.

Lol. This is not true at all. The adaptive suspension gets as much if not more tuning and development than the passive suspension.

[Racer20]

Originally Posted by stressdoc

I don't know, it seems like we keep missing what adaptive suspension is all about. The ability to specify comfort, sport, sport-plus is the easy part. The really cool thing about adaptive suspension is that it micro-adjusts to near-instantaneously respond to movements at each wheel.

At some point it should be possible to program changes in time at each wheel to adjust to exact locations on a race course. The only piece missing is military-spec GPS.

Exactly. The adaptive suspension is not about softer ride quality. It's about less body roll, tighter body control, and flatter ride while not compromising ride quality.

That said, I'm sure the passive suspension is quite good.

[serieD]

If you want a more comfortable ride, why not an M5?

I think even as an option, the adaptive suspension doesn't belong in the M3/4. This is supposed make you feel alive? Don't dull it down.

I would make the salesmen pay dearly for the mistake, maybe some type of 3k credit or something but I sure as hell would not eat the car. You'll end up liking it the way it is.

[Gearhead999s]

Originally Posted by stressdoc

I don't know, it seems like we keep missing what adaptive suspension is all about. The ability to specify comfort, sport, sport-plus is the easy part. The really cool thing about adaptive suspension is that it micro-adjusts to near-instantaneously respond to movements at each wheel.

At some point it should be possible to program changes in time at each wheel to adjust to exact locations on a race course. The only piece missing is military-spec GPS.

I am in the same boat as my order with the EDC was missed in the build after being on all the documentation that I got since ordering the car.My car will be here in about 2 weeks and I will decide after driving it if I am taking it or waiting till the fall for a reordered car.I have had EDC on both my E92 M3's and for daily use around Toronto it really improves the usability and yet works well on the track.

[A418t81]

I have the passive suspension in mine and I love it. I wouldn't sweat it unless you must have another button to press.

[Gearhead999s]

Originally Posted by A418t81

I have the passive suspension in mine and I love it. I wouldn't sweat it unless you must have another button to press.

I will miss the button

[tooch]

you don't wanna be missing a button......