What's a smaller, sportier, & lighter M3 replacement with only two doors?

N1rve · 10-15-2019, 04:35 PM

Sounds like you're describing a Toyota 86/Scion FR-S/Subaru BRZ/Mazda Miata.

Cheap, really light weight, nimble, and you can get them new without breaking the bank.

Highly mod-able.

jmg · 10-15-2019, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by N1rve

Sounds like you're describing a Toyota 86/Scion FR-S/Subaru BRZ/Mazda Miata.

Cheap, really light weight, nimble, and you can get them new without breaking the bank.

Highly mod-able.

I have no emotional attachment to those cars and I would hate driving every second of it except perhaps the Miata.

N1rve · 10-15-2019, 08:20 PM

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I have no emotional attachment to those cars and I would hate driving every second of it except perhaps the Miata.

aajjcc · 10-16-2019, 01:44 AM

718 Cayman GTS

M 4 FUN · 10-16-2019, 04:27 AM

Lotus Exige.

Spun Crankhub · 10-29-2019, 12:44 AM

Fiat Panda?

tisdrew · 01-24-2020, 07:37 AM

For a moddable track monster, a SS 1LE or C6 z06 are hard to beat even stock. Another choice way down on the budget would be a 370z (nismo?). If you're willing to venture deep into project-land, a scmedium single turbo fd3s rx-7 feels like it would trounce most cars *when* it runs.

Griffin283 · 02-11-2020, 02:15 PM

You can get a used Cayman for that price

Agonz128 · 02-14-2020, 10:53 PM

Don't doubt yourself, give the Subi STI a try. It was the last car I had before the M4. Great car to build on and the most phenomenal AWD system I've ever used. Lightly used 2019-2020's will fetch low $30's... add in another $30k to it and you won't find another car that can really perform all around with it.

In no particular order: (1) beef up the clutch, (2) build the motor, (3) upgrade the turbo and cooling system, (4) upgrade the suspension and all mounts, (4) upgrade the pads, lines, and rotors (2018+ comes with 6 and 2 pot brembos), (5) upgrade all fluids, (6) upgrade the exhaust, (7) add an IAG AOS, and finally (8) get it tuned by Mikey Botti or Greg/Don at MGW Miami.

This was my 2018. Had only 303/306 at the wheels but holy shit was the car fun.

Megabass · 02-15-2020, 12:06 AM

E46
e92
used 911
first gen r8

nicknaz · 02-15-2020, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Agonz128

Don't doubt yourself, give the Subi STI a try. It was the last car I had before the M4. Great car to build on and the most phenomenal AWD system I've ever used. Lightly used 2019-2020's will fetch low $30's... add in another $30k to it and you won't find another car that can really perform all around with it.

In no particular order: (1) beef up the clutch, (2) build the motor, (3) upgrade the turbo and cooling system, (4) upgrade the suspension and all mounts, (4) upgrade the pads, lines, and rotors (2018+ comes with 6 and 2 pot brembos), (5) upgrade all fluids, (6) upgrade the exhaust, (7) add an IAG AOS, and finally (8) get it tuned by Mikey Botti or Greg/Don at MGW Miami.

This was my 2018. Had only 303/306 at the wheels but holy shit was the car fun.

The thread title is “smaller, sportier and lighter” and as much as I love wrx sti, it’s none of those things compared to f80. It’s just “cheaper” and that is questionable with all the mods you suggested, when a used ‘15 f80 is a low $40k car all day long

Agonz128 · 02-16-2020, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by nicknaz

The thread title is “smaller, sportier and lighter” and as much as I love wrx sti, it’s none of those things compared to f80. It’s just “cheaper” and that is questionable with all the mods you suggested, when a used ‘15 f80 is a low $40k car all day long

OP himself stated in the original post:

"As much as I wanted a STI in the past, I prefer something a little more refined and 'my age'."

I'm just saying if you want something different, get something different.

Jim B · 02-17-2020, 10:24 AM

Mini JCW.

CachacoF80 · 02-17-2020, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim B

Mini JCW.

I love Minis, but different league in my humble opinion, especially being FWD.

Arcades · 02-25-2020, 04:28 AM

I might hate myself for this but...

Alfa Romeo 4C (if you can find any decent AR dealerships >.>)

infinitekidM2C · 02-25-2020, 04:37 PM

Strip the shite out of an OG m2.

Yes2m3cs · 02-26-2020, 10:23 AM

I'm liking the new (soon) 4.0 Cayman GTS

someguywithanm3 · 03-17-2020, 06:48 PM

Used Ariel Atom?

Rekrul · 03-28-2020, 04:50 AM

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One of my friends just sold his 991.1 RS and replaced it with a C8 in order. He wanted a car he could feel good about hammering on, versus he was trying to keep the RS “mint” as an “investment”.

Msrp deal, 6 months wait.

Not sure why it’s so unbelievable to get a c8 for msrp. Maybe it’s harder if you want the very first one?

Absolutely mind blowing that anyone would go for that... the RS is a very special car.

nicknaz · 03-28-2020, 09:22 AM

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Absolutely mind blowing that anyone would go for that... the RS is a very special car.

That’s what I thought too but I guess I’ll never fully understand until I’m in a position to get my own RS

I’m keeping an open mind since I never thought a 115whp spec Miata could be more fun to track than a 500+hp old 911, but the reality is my SM is used so much I keep it at the track and my 911 is on a trickle charger. I would never have believed that before I experienced it myself

nikotino · 04-07-2020, 12:28 PM

Jaguar f-type

jmg · 04-07-2020, 12:39 PM

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Jaguar f-type

I like the F-Type, but it's actually heavier than my M3 CS and the size is deceiving. It feels like a big car.

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