M3/M4 CS owners - Impressions?

[Clark_Kent]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

I don't believe the PSC2 are offered on the CS in the US.

That’s correct. They are not available from BMW in the US unfortunately.

[Gunnerforlife]

I picked my car two days ago and absolutely love it. I had an M2C delivered and changed my mind last moment and glad I did. However, the center console where they removed the arm rest is rattling so much on rough roads and it's really annoying. I have a feeling that the M2C was better built. Anyone else has this problem?

[z335is]

Originally Posted by Gunnerforlife

I picked my car two days ago and absolutely love it. I had an M2C delivered and changed my mind last moment and glad I did. However, the center console where they removed the arm rest is rattling so much on rough roads and it's really annoying. I have a feeling that the M2C was better built. Anyone else has this problem?

Not a problem on mine

[visi107]

Originally Posted by Gunnerforlife

I picked my car two days ago and absolutely love it. I had an M2C delivered and changed my mind last moment and glad I did. However, the center console where they removed the arm rest is rattling so much on rough roads and it's really annoying. I have a feeling that the M2C was better built. Anyone else has this problem?

I have not had any rattling issues either

[visi107]

Originally Posted by Gunnerforlife

I picked my car two days ago and absolutely love it. I had an M2C delivered and changed my mind last moment and glad I did. However, the center console where they removed the arm rest is rattling so much on rough roads and it's really annoying. I have a feeling that the M2C was better built. Anyone else has this problem?

I have not had any rattling on mine either

[jmg]

Originally Posted by Gunnerforlife

I picked my car two days ago and absolutely love it. I had an M2C delivered and changed my mind last moment and glad I did. However, the center console where they removed the arm rest is rattling so much on rough roads and it's really annoying. I have a feeling that the M2C was better built. Anyone else has this problem?

No rattling at all here at 1500 miles. Have the dealer take a look. One of my local dealers has a "rattle guy" who has good instincts when it comes to this stuff.

[SYT_Shadow]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

I say it really depends what you are after. The M4cs is slightly more biased towards performance and driving experience with more weight reduction, less sound deadening and a stiffer suspension while the M3cs is slightly more biased towards comfort and practicality with 4-doors, a plusher interior and a higher-end sound system. That bias difference is however very slim.

Chose whichever rocks your boat

is this confirmed? The M4 CS has a stiffer suspension than the M3 CS?

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by SYT_Shadow

is this confirmed? The M4 CS has a stiffer suspension than the M3 CS?

According to those that have done research in the BMW parts catalogue (spring part numbers are difficult to get access to), the M3cs has the regular M3 springs while the M4cs has the Competition Package springs. I am still digging to see if I can get a firmer "confirmation".

[DallasLife345M]

Originally Posted by Gunnerforlife

I picked my car two days ago and absolutely love it. I had an M2C delivered and changed my mind last moment and glad I did. However, the center console where they removed the arm rest is rattling so much on rough roads and it's really annoying. I have a feeling that the M2C was better built. Anyone else has this problem?

Today, with about 400mi on it, my driver side door started creaking and rattling like crazy. When I bring it in for my 1200mi service I'm gonna have them look at it.

[Kief]

Originally Posted by Gunnerforlife

I picked my car two days ago and absolutely love it. I had an M2C delivered and changed my mind last moment and glad I did. However, the center console where they removed the arm rest is rattling so much on rough roads and it's really annoying. I have a feeling that the M2C was better built. Anyone else has this problem?

Originally Posted by DallasLife345M

Today, with about 400mi on it, my driver side door started creaking and rattling like crazy. When I bring it in for my 1200mi service I'm gonna have them look at it.

Since the weather has warmed up, I've noticed a rattle exactly located to the right of the DCT lever....annoying and maybe time to sell shortly!!! j/k
Just swapped out my winters yesterday, so maybe a different tire will help some, but I doubt it.

[hova00]

Just wrapped up the 1200mile service yesterday and the car has been perfect. Out of the 6 M3's I've had this one is really the best, in my opinion.

The M3 CS has a uniqueness to it that embodies the whole car and it is hard to pinpoint what exactly it is but hats off to BMW for reversing course and making M cars more competitive in their respective segments.

[DS_BMW]

I wish I had gotten CCB. I hate the brake dust and rust.

[rarlyl8]

Originally Posted by mpizutti

we have a facebook page for CS owners its called BMW M3 CS and M4 CS owners Group..
please look it up We are at 55 Members as of now

Tried to join...let me in

[blinkme323]

I've owned several different M3s and this is by far the best iteration. I just wish more publications would test it out, as I'd love to know how it stacks up.

[///M///]

May be a dumb question but I am curious so here goes......

- Other than tuning for the suspension what exactly is the difference between a CS suspension and a standard M3/4?

- Does the CS wheel hub line up in the same spot as the non CS M3 with reference to the fender? To elaborate, if you throw on the standard M3 19's on the CS will the wheels line up the same (offsets, etc.) to the fender as they do on the standard M3? I understand height will be different but was wondering if the CS hubs are pushed out more than the standard M3's?

Thanks.

[jmg]

Originally Posted by ///M///

May be a dumb question but I am curious so here goes......

- Other than tuning for the suspension what exactly is the difference between a CS suspension and a standard M3/4?

- Does the CS wheel hub line up in the same spot as the non CS M3 with reference to the fender? To elaborate, if you throw on the standard M3 19's on the CS will the wheels line up the same (offsets, etc.) to the fender as they do on the standard M3? I understand height will be different but was wondering if the CS hubs are pushed out more than the standard M3's?

Thanks.

They appear to be exactly the same, but I haven't measured it. If there are any differences, it's minimal and not noticeable by the naked eye.

[figure99]

Originally Posted by ///M///

May be a dumb question but I am curious so here goes......

- Other than tuning for the suspension what exactly is the difference between a CS suspension and a standard M3/4?

- Does the CS wheel hub line up in the same spot as the non CS M3 with reference to the fender? To elaborate, if you throw on the standard M3 19's on the CS will the wheels line up the same (offsets, etc.) to the fender as they do on the standard M3? I understand height will be different but was wondering if the CS hubs are pushed out more than the standard M3's?

Thanks.

I read in another CS thread that the CS suspension hardware is composed of all CP components except for the front sway-bar and springs. I believe the front sway-bar is from the base model, but not sure about the springs. The key component is the EDC programming.

Again, that is what I have read a few times... I have no direct first hand knowledge to confirm.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by ///M///

May be a dumb question but I am curious so here goes......

- Other than tuning for the suspension what exactly is the difference between a CS suspension and a standard M3/4?

- Does the CS wheel hub line up in the same spot as the non CS M3 with reference to the fender? To elaborate, if you throw on the standard M3 19's on the CS will the wheels line up the same (offsets, etc.) to the fender as they do on the standard M3? I understand height will be different but was wondering if the CS hubs are pushed out more than the standard M3's?

Thanks.

The basic suspension geometry of the CS is identical to the base and CP. Only the GTS differs due to its unique machined from solid front hub carrier.

Even the 763M wheels share widths and offsets with the other F8X wheels (513M, 437M and 666M. Again here, only the GTS differs with 0.5" wider wheels and different offset in the rear.

The CS suspension differs in overall mechanical tuning with different pairing of components, particularly regarding sway bars, and electronic tuning of the adaptive dampers.

[///M///]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

The basic suspension geometry of the CS is identical to the base and CP. Only the GTS differs due to its unique machined from solid front hub carrier.

Even the 763M wheels share widths and offsets with the other F8X wheels (513M, 437M and 666M. Again here, only the GTS differs with 0.5" wider wheels and different offset in the rear.

The CS suspension differs in overall mechanical tuning with different pairing of components, particularly regarding sway bars, and electronic tuning of the adaptive dampers.

Thanks a lot. Reason for asking was mainly because the stock stance for the CS looks really good. It doesn't feel like it needs a drop. I know it's got a 19/20 setup but wasn't sure if the mounting points in the hubs were at the same locations. Thanks.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by ///M///

Thanks a lot. Reason for asking was mainly because the stock stance for the CS looks really good. It doesn't feel like it needs a drop. I know it's got a 19/20 setup but wasn't sure if the mounting points in the hubs were at the same locations. Thanks.

The M4cs actualy rides slightly higher than the base and CP M4, with a 9mm higher official quoted overall height.

[DS_BMW]

[jmg]

Originally Posted by DS_BMW

I've had the car since January and took it slow the first 1200 miles. After the 1200 mile service I took a quick run down Turnbull Canyon Rd. I was still getting used to the car, so I don't think I pushed it too hard. So yesterday night on the way home from work I took it down Mulholland. WOW, this car handles almost completely different than my non-ZCP '16 M3! I had so much fun, I did it AGAIN tonight despite adding 30 minutes to my commute! It's so much easier to steer with the throttle, and it turns like there is a rope tied from the b-pillar to the apex, it's THAT balanced! It might not be a full on sports car, but it's very capable. I still need an MPE though!