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      02-25-2019, 01:25 PM   #23
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Nope, it's all in the shade. It's not my first time washing a car lol. When the wheel is wet it looks normal but when I start drying the wheel those stain appeared and wheel color got faded
Just trying to get as many of the variables out as possible. I haven't seen this kind of rim damage in several years, back when different finishes were starting to come out.
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      02-25-2019, 01:34 PM   #25
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      02-25-2019, 01:48 PM   #26
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Call Jay! He's got the cash to make it right.
Already tried to call their customer support and emailed them. No one answers....
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      02-25-2019, 01:52 PM   #27
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That's terrible this happened to you but it's always best practice to use proven products. As consumers we tend to overrotate and always look for the next best thing or the flavor of the month with these products. Just stick with that you've used in the past (e.g. Sonax, Griot's Garage) if it has worked well. I've learned my lesson a couple of times with respect to this. Good luck and let us know how it goes.
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      02-25-2019, 02:03 PM   #28
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Saw something similar to what you're experiencing when I worked for EAS back in the say. A set of VMR VB3's were toast when this customer applied the P21 wheel cleaner on - https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=406357

This instance isn't as bad as the one you see above, but still that's a shame to see . More than likely I believe that's from the wheel cleaner not being fully rinsed off and the chemicals have dried which is one of the issues with using wheel cleaners, if they dry on the wheel before being wiped off, you get this issue.

Best bet is to use PH neutral wheel cleaners. I personally use Gyeon Iron for my car, nothing else will be used, but Sonax as others have suggested is also a great PH neutral cleaner.

Gyeon Iron - https://www.esotericcarcare.com/gyeon-q2m-iron/
Sonax - https://www.esotericcarcare.com/sona...-cleaner-plus/


For those who want to make sure this doesn't happen, check the how-to vid below.


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      02-25-2019, 02:18 PM   #29
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Use soap and water next time. Shit works just fine homie.


truth !
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      02-25-2019, 02:24 PM   #30
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also take a look at your calipers, curious to see if the paint on them got affected ...if they got sprayed by your product.
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      02-25-2019, 02:30 PM   #31
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also sorry OP for the misfortune, i just don't understand the need for wheel cleaner for most of you, like how dirty are your wheels ?
i wash both my vehicles by hand since new (live in vancouver BC, much harsher conditions half the year) and always start with wheels, calipers and inner barrels, switch water and do the body.. cars are perfectly mint, wheels look brand new, so why why why ???
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Saw something similar to what you're experiencing when I worked for EAS back in the say. A set of VMR VB3's were toast when this customer applied the P21 wheel cleaner on - https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=406357

This instance isn't as bad as the one you see above, but still that's a shame to see . More than likely I believe that's from the wheel cleaner not being fully rinsed off and the chemicals have dried which is one of the issues with using wheel cleaners, if they dry on the wheel before being wiped off, you get this issue.

Best bet is to use PH neutral wheel cleaners. I personally use Gyeon Iron for my car, nothing else will be used, but Sonax as others have suggested is also a great PH neutral cleaner.

Gyeon Iron - https://www.esotericcarcare.com/gyeon-q2m-iron/
Sonax - https://www.esotericcarcare.com/sona...-cleaner-plus/


For those who want to make sure this doesn't happen, check the how-to vid below.


Does this work similar to Iron X on paint, as a decontamination cleaner?
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      02-25-2019, 02:46 PM   #33
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Saw something similar to what you're experiencing when I worked for EAS back in the say. A set of VMR VB3's were toast when this customer applied the P21 wheel cleaner on - https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=406357

This instance isn't as bad as the one you see above, but still that's a shame to see . More than likely I believe that's from the wheel cleaner not being fully rinsed off and the chemicals have dried which is one of the issues with using wheel cleaners, if they dry on the wheel before being wiped off, you get this issue.

Best bet is to use PH neutral wheel cleaners. I personally use Gyeon Iron for my car, nothing else will be used, but Sonax as others have suggested is also a great PH neutral cleaner.

Gyeon Iron - https://www.esotericcarcare.com/gyeon-q2m-iron/
Sonax - https://www.esotericcarcare.com/sona...-cleaner-plus/


For those who want to make sure this doesn't happen, check the how-to vid below.


Is refinishing the only option? Do you know any product that might help cure the stain? If refinishing is the only option maybe I'll try white vinegar and water or acetone?

I actually just sprayed some chemical guy "black on black", holy shit it actually make the wheel look like brand new, it's a oil base coat so not sure how long it will last.
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      02-25-2019, 02:51 PM   #34
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Does this work similar to Iron X on paint, as a decontamination cleaner?
Yes indeed, it's an metallic contamination remover essentially. Before I use a clay bar I actually use Gyeon Iron on the entire car to remove any iron deposits built up onto the paint, so that when I actually clay bar it I'm not marring the finish as badly as I would have been.

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Is refinishing the only option? Do you know any product that might help cure the stain? If refinishing is the only option maybe I'll try white vinegar and water or acetone?

I actually just sprayed some chemical guy "black on black", holy shit it actually make the wheel look like brand new, it's a oil base coat so not sure how long it will last.
I don't know of any products that would help restore it, no. Haven't used the Chemical Guy's product that you're referring to, but hopefully that helps out. If it doesn't then the best bet would be to have them refinished, yes.

It being a Satin finish exacerbates the issue because you can't polish a Satin wheel and remove that.
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      02-25-2019, 07:26 PM   #35
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sonax works better in 99% of cases
nothing else than sonax wheels cleaner for my cars
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      02-25-2019, 09:23 PM   #36
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i bought the 5 liter on amazon for 110$ canadian, then i have enough for the year

but i just search on google and find it on costco.ca for 99$ for the 5 liter (1.32 gallon) that's an amazing deal
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      02-25-2019, 09:50 PM   #37
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Save yourself some time and money. Next time please use brush hero. Less a min to completely clean a wheel and guarantee no damage and result super clean!!
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      02-26-2019, 12:15 AM   #38
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That's amazing you can get it at Costco in Canada

https://www.costco.ca/SONAX-Extreme-...100419925.html
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      02-26-2019, 01:29 AM   #39
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Maybe a stupid thought but I would try applying a cleaner wax and polish. :
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      02-26-2019, 10:02 AM   #40
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Maybe a stupid thought but I would try applying a cleaner wax and polish. :
I do not recommend polishing a wheel with a Satin Clear coat as I mentioned earlier unless you want a slightly more glossy looking wheel because it'll ruin the satin finish.
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      02-28-2019, 02:42 AM   #41
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Holy shit! I have the same finish wheels. Now I'm paranoid. lol
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      02-28-2019, 06:50 AM   #42
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Holy shit! I have the same finish wheels. Now I'm paranoid. lol
If you don't use a bullshit cleaner you should be good.
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      02-28-2019, 12:51 PM   #43
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Holy shit! I have the same finish wheels. Now I'm paranoid. lol
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If you don't use a bullshit cleaner you should be good.
Bingo. Problem here isn't the powdercoat if you've been reading the thread, it's the wheel cleaner itself which appears as if it has dried on the surface of the wheel leaving that white etching. Not the fault of the powdercoat, rather the cleaner itself.
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You can get 3 for $50 at Autogeek (the stronger Plus version). Then wait for the 25% off free shipping sales and they are a steal.
I always recommend buying the giant 169 oz bottle off Amazon. With subscribe and save (right now) it's $76 shipped. That's as cheap as you can get with this stuff.
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