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This calls for the new "thinking" iphone emoji and i agree lol
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You're good too! Wish I had f82. So much more power I think I would destroy tires so fast
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Thanks for sharing this video.
I'm sure in the moment it felt very serious and out of control, but that was a pretty safe spin to have on a track day, very slow and easy, not even a full 360. Like others have said you just need some proper instruction. M school will teach you a lot. You could've caught that slide with some counter steering. For future track days It's good to set up the camera to also see inside and get your hands. If you had that I'm sure you would've seen you didn't counter steer soon enough to catch the slide. Once you do the m school you'll see, to catch a slide you're hands need to be pretty quick. |
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Thanks for sharing the video. You lost control of your car because you exceeded your skill and comfort level not because of MDM. Nothing wrong with that, because the easiest way to find the limit is to exceed it. As long as you pick your spots and do it in a safe manner, keep pushing your limits.
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I find Euro MDM very unpredictable, i have DSC off.
I get to feather the throttle myself, this car (M4) is like a 5.0 Mustang, you better stay off the throttle mid turn and do a lot of trail braking where with the E92 M3 you could get on the gas much sooner even mid turn. |
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...and this post of your does what ?
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To OP - glad you're ok!!! Man - I'm sure that was an incredibly scary moment - but given that you learned something without property damage or injury -
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OP, here is another save this time on a public road.
You can see what this driver is doing very well. Had he reacted to the slide a little sooner, he would have avoided all the drama and probably wetting his pants a little bit. Thats why i suggested to you in my previous post that while driving on the track, you need to anticipate these kind of situations and be ready for it at all times. You do need to have quick hands though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=MXSFXPtcrlE |
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Finally got to watch both videos in detail.
Where are your hands OP? Your instructor said "two hands on the wheel" multiple times.
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We are getting some good snow here in Chicago today - went out to an empty parking lot - traction control full off and did some drifting baby!!!!
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That was exact point of the videos I posted. While it is very important to develop the skills to recover from a bad oversteer, it is even better to develop the skills to avoid it altogether .
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anyway, you're entitled to make your jabs, but wanted to give my perspective, and sorry, I know you didn't ask for my opinion but... but again, yeah, he was a little mean, but I think OP may be in a little denial and I'm sure he is also able to take a little razzing.
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OP - another way I was able to get more comfortable taking DSC off was at autocrosses. some track rats scoff at autox, say it encourages bad habits, doesn't offer enough seat time, etc. i like them because they're cheap, low speeds and lower risk of destroying the car messing around with DSC levels, and some seat time is better than any. autox definitely teaches "fast hands" which you don't want when you're flying at 120 through a sweeper on the track (unless you need to correct a slide, then you need those fast hands for your CPR sequence of recovery). just recognize that the two arenas are different and use your head.
I'm far less experienced than a lot of these guys but try some autocrosses and some skid pad time and report back!
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I wonder what the aggressive internet know-it-all think what Walter Rohrl did wrong when he crashed.
Of course, they're all going to predent that they've never exceeded the limits and never spun out. My advice to the op, careful with the half baked euro mdm, it's not as good as the e92's euro mdm. |
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