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      09-08-2021, 01:35 AM   #23
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It seems like the opposite to me, classic case of trailing throttle oversteer: came in the corner too hot, got off the throttle and on the brakes, which unloaded the rear and caused it to step sideways. Though one to get out of, but getting back on throttle while counter steering is the only way to potentially save it.
This. Also looks like a slight elevation change.
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That's what I said
You said exactly the opposite. You said that "The dude probably gave it too much throttle in the middle of that curve."

CanAutM3 said "...classic case of trailing throttle oversteer: came in the corner too hot, got off the throttle and on the brakes, which unloaded the rear and caused it to step sideways."

Trailing throttle oversteer means that the driver got off the throttle, not gave it too much throttle. The fact that he had his brake lights on indicates that his right foot was on the brake, not on the throttle. Just like CanAutM3 said.
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That's what I said
You said exactly the opposite. You said that "The dude probably gave it too much throttle in the middle of that curve."

CanAutM3 said "...classic case of trailing throttle oversteer: came in the corner too hot, got off the throttle and on the brakes, which unloaded the rear and caused it to step sideways."

Trailing throttle oversteer means that the driver got off the throttle, not gave it too much throttle. The fact that he had his brake lights on indicates that his right foot was on the brake, not on the throttle. Just like CanAutM3 said.
"Poor braking before wreck, tc was probably off too. Not a surprising outcome"

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Have a bad day and need to start something on the internet!?
No, but apparently you do.

I'm agreeing with CanAutM3 and disagreeing with you because his analysis was correct and yours was wrong. How is that "starting something". Again, you obsessively need to attack me, as you have before. But you just keep on doing you.

Putting you on my Ignore list, as I've done in the past.
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That's awesome! It did a 360 and landed on its wheels! F8x are no joke. You cannot even think of full throttling it unless you're pointed straight ahead. This car will step out on you in 1 sec flat. The dude probably gave it too much throttle in the middle of that curve.
It seems like the opposite to me, classic case of trailing throttle oversteer: came in the corner too hot, got off the throttle and on the brakes, which unloaded the rear and caused it to step sideways. Though one to get out of, but getting back on throttle while counter steering is the only way to potentially save it.
Exactly, lift-off oversteer
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      09-29-2021, 02:19 PM   #35
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His braking causes it.
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Probably thought he was too “macho” to have DSC enabled at all. And look what happened lol.
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That's awesome! It did a 360 and landed on its wheels! F8x are no joke. You cannot even think of full throttling it unless you're pointed straight ahead. This car will step out on you in 1 sec flat. The dude probably gave it too much throttle in the middle of that curve.
It seems like the opposite to me, classic case of trailing throttle oversteer: came in the corner too hot, got off the throttle and on the brakes, which unloaded the rear and caused it to step sideways. Though one to get out of, but getting back on throttle while counter steering is the only way to potentially save it.
Exactly, lift-off oversteer
It's not just lift throttle oversteer.

He/she was on an off camber elevation change as well. A tough corner to manage even if they knew what they were doing.
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Any idea what the ambient temp was? If it was chilly at all that double center line was prob really slick.

Summer tires on cold nights vs road paint have ended my relationship with more than one motorcycle.

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