E63 S to M3 CS?

F80JMcD · 01-06-2019, 09:03 AM

Former F80 owner here. Sold my '15 M3 a couple of years ago for Toyota Tundra. Loved the truck but it was too big. I've had a '18 E63s since May'18 and sadly it's spent 70+ days in service for an unresolvable CEL.

Needless to say, she's a lemon and Mercedes is buying back the car. They're refunding all money down and every $ I've paid towards the car since purchase. I'll be surrendering it on Thursday and need a replacement. I have another E63s on order - it's built and due to be shipped soon.

It's hard to match the E63s, which I'd characterize as a super sedan with 600+ HP and torque. However, I don't love the way it drives. It's heavy...but fast. I miss my F80 and am not sure I want another E63s.

I've located a new Lime Rock Grey M3CS. The dealership's offering a very reasonable discount to MSRP at ~10%.

Curious what the forum's thoughts are on this transition. Thanks!

Ex_Stig · 01-06-2019, 09:09 AM

Do it. You won't regret it. Of course, you probably won't get many opposing opinions here.

Your only other viable option would be a M5C.

If you get the CS, plan on keeping it for a long long time. Limited production means long term value.

EAG will probably pay top dollar for well kept CSs.

Maitre_Absolut · 01-06-2019, 12:35 PM

Do it. Large fast sedans are instant fun but fun for an instant.

PshhhhhMW · 01-06-2019, 12:50 PM

For the money that you're spending might as well go M5 unless you're planning on leasing.

Poiseuille · 01-06-2019, 01:28 PM

normally I think my responses trend toward the more lengthy end of the spectrum, but this one is easy:

M3CS in LRG

cionide · 01-06-2019, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by F80JMcD

Former F80 owner here. Sold my '15 M3 a couple of years ago for Toyota Tundra. Loved the truck but it was too big. I've had a '18 E63s since May'18 and sadly it's spent 70+ days in service for an unresolvable CEL.

Needless to say, she's a lemon and Mercedes is buying back the car. They're refunding all money down and every $ I've paid towards the car since purchase. I'll be surrendering it on Thursday and need a replacement. I have another E63s on order - it's built and due to be shipped soon.

It's hard to match the E63s, which I'd characterize as a super sedan with 600+ HP and torque. However, I don't love the way it drives. It's heavy...but fast. I miss my F80 and am not sure I want another E63s.

I've located a new Lime Rock Grey M3CS. The dealership's offering a very reasonable discount to MSRP at ~10%.

Curious what the forum's thoughts are on this transition. Thanks!

They can do much better then 10% - the car is ending it's production run, I actually think they even stop manufacturing them in Feb of this year? I got 18% off without trying very hard.

https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1519112

Maitre_Absolut · 01-06-2019, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cionide

They can do much better then 10% - the car is ending it's production run, I actually think they even stop manufacturing them in Feb of this year? I got 18% off without trying very hard.

https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1519112

M3 has already ended production and discounts are market specific so what happens in Poland is not necessarily the OP's reality

CanAutM3 · 01-06-2019, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cionide

They can do much better then 10% - the car is ending it's production run, I actually think they even stop manufacturing them in Feb of this year? I got 18% off without trying very hard.

https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1519112

You are confusing things. The chart in the thread you reference relates to the end of production of "model year" 2019, not the end of production for the entire series of cars. Further, the F80 M3 has already ended production and there is no model year 2019 M3. There will however be a model year 2020 for the M4 though, with the series ending production in Jun 2020.

dezzracer · 01-06-2019, 05:18 PM

There is another choice in that class. (IMO). The new 2019 AMG C63S. 503 HP twin turbo 4.0 V8. It's one sweet motor. First class interior and lots of hi teck amenities. Comes in coupe or sedan and some very cool colors including frozen black. Option it out well and your still under 100k.

F80JMcD · 01-06-2019, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dezzracer

There is another choice in that class. (IMO). The new 2019 AMG C63S. 503 HP twin turbo 4.0 V8. It's one sweet motor. First class interior and lots of hi teck amenities. Comes in coupe or sedan and some very cool colors including frozen black. Option it out well and your still under 100k.

+1 I'm torn

Vic55 · 01-07-2019, 12:30 PM

Based on what you have I would suggest the F90 M5. I speak from ownership of both a 2018 E63S and now an F90 M5....

Take a peak here:

https://f90.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1525153

Graves · 01-07-2019, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dezzracer

There is another choice in that class. (IMO). The new 2019 AMG C63S. 503 HP twin turbo 4.0 V8. It's one sweet motor. First class interior and lots of hi teck amenities. Comes in coupe or sedan and some very cool colors including frozen black. Option it out well and your still under 100k.

Almost got that over the M3. Almost...

fusionchicken · 01-07-2019, 01:50 PM

f90 m5

nicknaz · 01-07-2019, 04:24 PM

OP what's your experience with rwd cars with good power and how will you use the car (cart around clients, family hauler, I'm guessing?)

My $0.02 is get a GLE63s or X3M. For a street only family car you'll miss the acceleration from a stop and the stability when in bad weather

dezzracer · 01-07-2019, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graves

Quote:

Originally Posted by dezzracer

There is another choice in that class. (IMO). The new 2019 AMG C63S. 503 HP twin turbo 4.0 V8. It's one sweet motor. First class interior and lots of hi teck amenities. Comes in coupe or sedan and some very cool colors including frozen black. Option it out well and your still under 100k.

Almost got that over the M3. Almost...

Lol, me too. Almost....

F80JMcD · 01-07-2019, 05:32 PM

just put offer in on the M3

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vic55

Based on what you have I would suggest the F90 M5. I speak from ownership of both a 2018 E63S and now an F90 M5....

Take a peak here:

https://f90.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1525153

Vic55 · 01-07-2019, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by F80JMcD

just put offer in on the M3

Enjoy the car, I drove one the day I first borrowed the F90 M5 and its definitely a fun car to drive. It drove better than my 2016 ZCP F82 without a doubt. Im sure you can get a pretty good deal on the car since they are sitting around.

Kimeran · 01-09-2019, 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dezzracer

There is another choice in that class. (IMO). The new 2019 AMG C63S. 503 HP twin turbo 4.0 V8. It's one sweet motor. First class interior and lots of hi teck amenities. Comes in coupe or sedan and some very cool colors including frozen black. Option it out well and your still under 100k.

I agree with this.
Also, have you considered a price equivalent Porsche?
By the sounds of it, you prefer a more driver involvement kinda car.

hellrotm · 01-10-2019, 03:28 PM

I was going to say sure, if you are getting a discount. 10% isn't bad, I would push for more. Dealers are hurting to move their CS inventory, no one really seems interested anywhere near US msrp. Dealers learned their lesson with the GTS.

Brasko · 01-11-2019, 08:03 PM

You should get the M3CS and put a license plate on it that reads 'E63 LOL'.

Lifted07Duramax · 01-22-2019, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graves

Almost got that over the M3. Almost...

A 2019 C63S should always be chosen over a M3

m3cssvr · 01-25-2019, 10:54 PM

Depends on what your looking for. Looking for more sportiness go for M3CS. The bigger super sedans are just too big. The 2019 C63 with the new steering wheel seems gimmicky and the tacked on iPod imho is awful. If you want more luxury and longer road trips definilty get the M5Comp. Instead of the M5Comp get an SVR and keep the M3CS for spirited drives and track work.

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F80JMcD First Lieutenant 42 Rep 308 Posts Drives: F80 M3 Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Raleigh, NC iTrader: (0)	E63 S to M3 CS? Former F80 owner here. Sold my '15 M3 a couple of years ago for Toyota Tundra. Loved the truck but it was too big. I've had a '18 E63s since May'18 and sadly it's spent 70+ days in service for an unresolvable CEL. Needless to say, she's a lemon and Mercedes is buying back the car. They're refunding all money down and every $ I've paid towards the car since purchase. I'll be surrendering it on Thursday and need a replacement. I have another E63s on order - it's built and due to be shipped soon. It's hard to match the E63s, which I'd characterize as a super sedan with 600+ HP and torque. However, I don't love the way it drives. It's heavy...but fast. I miss my F80 and am not sure I want another E63s. I've located a new Lime Rock Grey M3CS. The dealership's offering a very reasonable discount to MSRP at ~10%. Curious what the forum's thoughts are on this transition. Thanks! __________________ Mineral Grey F80 M3 /// Full Sakhir Leather Interior /// 19" Light Alloy Wheels /// M Adaptive Suspension /// DCT /// Carbon Fiber Trim /// Carbon Fiber Roof /// Executive Package /// HK /// LED Lighting /// MPE /// KW HAS /// ESS E-Tronic
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dezzracer Major 1183 Rep 1,216 Posts Drives: 2018 M3 CS Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: The Great Mojave Desert iTrader: (0)	There is another choice in that class. (IMO). The new 2019 AMG C63S. 503 HP twin turbo 4.0 V8. It's one sweet motor. First class interior and lots of hi teck amenities. Comes in coupe or sedan and some very cool colors including frozen black. Option it out well and your still under 100k.
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Vic55 Lieutenant General 19222 Rep 10,145 Posts Drives: 2023 BMW M8 Competition Coupe Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: THE Orange County iTrader: (9)	Based on what you have I would suggest the F90 M5. I speak from ownership of both a 2018 E63S and now an F90 M5.... Take a peak here: https://f90.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1525153 __________________ 2024 BMW M3 CS Frozen Solid White 2023 BMW M8 Coupe Competition Alpine White 2022 Porsche Carrera GTS Coupe Shark Blue 2020 Audi R8 V10 Performance Suzuka Gray 2012 Mercedes Benz C63 AMG Black Series Obsidian Black
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hellrotm Banned 4143 Rep 6,926 Posts Drives: F80 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: ...Location...Location iTrader: (0)	I was going to say sure, if you are getting a discount. 10% isn't bad, I would push for more. Dealers are hurting to move their CS inventory, no one really seems interested anywhere near US msrp. Dealers learned their lesson with the GTS.
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m3cssvr New Member 20 Rep 29 Posts Drives: M3CS Frozen Dark Blue Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Miami iTrader: (0)	Depends on what your looking for. Looking for more sportiness go for M3CS. The bigger super sedans are just too big. The 2019 C63 with the new steering wheel seems gimmicky and the tacked on iPod imho is awful. If you want more luxury and longer road trips definilty get the M5Comp. Instead of the M5Comp get an SVR and keep the M3CS for spirited drives and track work.
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