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thanks for the tip. where are the pics of your car?
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09-19-2018, 12:41 PM | #178 |
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I've been too busy driving.
Here's the pic at the delivery center. Let me know if there are particular details you want pics of |
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I just got back from my test drive. I am just shocked. Pluses: The damn thing is instant torque and I got motion sickness. I don't there is an ICE car out there that can avoid a sudden pass from one of these top end teslas. Extremely easy to drive- there is little learning curve other than getting used to regen braking a bit. Steering seems precise Lots of safety features and auto steer is amazing. I got used to the screen instead of having gauges. Minuses: It is heavy and I can tell on turns there is some body roll and I wonder if it is under tired considering just the massive weight shifts on s curves. There is instant power, but at higher speeds the torque does not replace hp/weight. Materials/some inconsistent gaps - there were several 3's there and each car had different levels of panel gaps- not a deal breaker for me. I think off the line there is simply no way the m3 is faster, there is all traction and all torque. I think for me, the weight and the lack of top end hp makes it not a replacement for the m3. Don't get me wrong, on the hwy if you are not in the correct gear on the m3, the model 3 will just take off. But I have less joy driving it than I have with the M. The throttle is an on/off switch. There is no doubt this car makes sense, little cost, little maintenance, massive performance potential, etc. This is the future.
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09-21-2018, 02:34 PM | #180 |
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Hey so, I wanted to follow up to mention that the rated range of 300 miles is achievable if you charge the battery to 100% and drive without heat or AC. You might need to drive yourself too so as not to need to power the radar, ultrasonic sensors etc needed by autopilot
This will get you the 4 miles per kWh needed to get 300 miles. For day to day usage, range will be more like 200 miles since you will be changing only to 90% and will be using heater/AC and autopilot, and getting around 3 miles per kWh. Definitely not a deal breaker by any means if you have commuted with the older 80 miles range EVs but could be a cause for disappointment for someone who hasn't owned an EV before and doesn't have an L2 charger at home. |
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What fuel economy are you getting on your F80? Mine was around 20mpg and I would refuel around 12 gallons at a time (~240mi), so I guess I'm not seeing much range difference in my use case. |
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However, when I consider how I was getting about 22 in my 230i, it's not bad at all. As I suspected with the S55, and as I experienced with the N54, the BMW turbo 6s deliver about what the sticker says they should, whereas the 4s do not, because you have to smash it to make them go. The BMW 4s are glorious when you smash them, but meh when you don't, whereas the BMW 6s are just plain old glorious period! I never had an N55, but I did have two N54s and the S55 reminds me of the fun I had in the e82 and e92...except it's MORE!
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I was planning to mostly Supercharhe weekly to around 80 or 90%, assuming that's ok for battery life. |
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09-24-2018, 09:41 AM | #185 | |
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Need to use 250Wh per mile (and charge to full) to get the advertised range (assuming 75kwh usable battery size and 300 advertised range). I'm fairly convinced heater usage is a key driver. On my Spark, it would cost close to 350wh per mile if I used the heater, but I would use only 200wh per mile on the same route if I used the fan only. It doesn't much matter in the real world for commuting, but I'm trying to figure it out so I don't get a bad range surprise during my first road trip with the car My $0.02 on battery life is recharging daily using L1 or L2 is better than recharging a big amount periodically using SC |
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In my experience (from my 18 months with spark ev) AC has been less of an impact than heater, except in 100+F days when the AC is going at max effort Either way, 200 miles real world range is workable. If that's too low for you, stick with the gasser V8s for now |
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Tesla Model 3 Performance takes on BMW M3 Competition in drag race
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It's a bit counter intuitive at first because EV usually get more range at low speed than highway, which is opposite of gas cars. I found out when I had to slow down to 50 on the freeway to get home in my first month with the spark. Whoops!! |
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09-25-2018, 01:29 PM | #193 |
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saw that drag race...
vbox for the tesla model 3 perf 0-60 3.2 0-100 8.4 1/4 mile: 11.7 @ 114.5 mph off the line it is even better than I thought, wow. but definitely starts dying off at higher speeds- 0-100 is basically same as m3 and 1/4 mile the tesla has a low trap speed - basically same as m3 in this run with the m3 at 12.0 @ 114 mph. I think at highway speeds rolling start the m3 will likely pull harder. Amazing bargain for the tesla though, great car. The jury is still out on the track performance, but I'd wager it won't be faster than the f8x. R and T article said something about 3 laps and the car starts to have heat soak issues with diminished results.
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I guess the EV tesla is a much better commuter car, so that's a big plus.
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I watch very closely for merges and exits and other breaks in the lane markings but otherwise it's great tech that's only going to get better. |
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Results are completely in line with expectation. No surprises. |
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All good discussion, remember for price, the BMW is negotiable, unlike Tesla, if buying new.
Still, can't believe how far ahead the Tesla is regarding their enhanced auto pilot. |
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