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      01-15-2022, 11:21 AM   #309
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Time and again it keeps coming back to Castrol 0w40. But I still ponder going to M1 now and then. I ran that in every car I had up to this M3 for the last 20+ years. Good to know at the very least it would be good to use short term as a "flush"/ clean cycle.
By all means use M1.
My point is that bcs. M1 has such strong additive pack it does produce bit more SAPS. Porsche, MB, VW think it is ok to use in their DI engines as it has their approvals and VW is not as good in ventilating crank as BMW is.
I mean, I use it in my N52. It is port injected though.
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So since I now live in a place that has more than 2 seasons, I'm thinking of running a 5w-30 during the Fall/Winter since I drive in grandma mode due to weather and lack of roads worth driving and then swapping to 5w-40 for the spring/summer for spirited driving and hopefully more track days.

My logic is really as follows: since I'm unlikely to drive in a way that's really pushing the engine during the colder & wetter months, it's better to have an oil that comes up to temp faster there by reducing cold engine wear rather than focusing on objectively higher HTHS since I won't really take advantage of it. And when I'm likely to do more high performance stuff in the summer & warmer months, it makes more sense to run a higher HTHS oil where those beneficial properties will come into play since I'll spend more consistent time in the upper RPMs.

Anyone doing the same? I've basically got a blank slate to start over with in terms of oil changes & maintenance. The alternative would be just doing what I was before and running either Motul 5w-40 or Castrol 0w-40 year round. My OCD... uh I mean OCI is usually 5k or 6mos
Castrol 0W40 is perfect all year round oil.
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Here is a UOA with Motul 5w-40 Xcess Gen 2 (latest run) vs Motul 300V 5w-40 (former run) on some hard canyon driving (no track).

I was quite disappointed with the results of the Xcess Gen 2. I tried to run the same mileage and similar amounts of hard driving between both oils, but my wear came in at 2x to 3x on Gen 2 compared to the 300V.

I think this goes to prove oil does matter if you push the car in the canyons and you are tuned.

Needless to say I'm staying with 300V, Redline or HPL oils from now on.
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Here is a UOA with Motul 5w-40 Xcess Gen 2 (latest run) vs Motul 300V 5w-40 (former run) on some hard canyon driving (no track).

I was quite disappointed with the results of the Xcess Gen 2. I tried to run the same mileage and similar amounts of hard driving between both oils, but my wear came in at 2x to 3x on Gen 2 compared to the 300V.

I think this goes to prove oil does matter if you push the car in the canyons and you are tuned.

Needless to say I'm staying with 300V, Redline or HPL oils from now on.
What about Motul 8100 x-max 0w-40? Seems like it has not been talked much in this thread
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Here is a UOA with Motul 5w-40 Xcess Gen 2 (latest run) vs Motul 300V 5w-40 (former run) on some hard canyon driving (no track).

I was quite disappointed with the results of the Xcess Gen 2. I tried to run the same mileage and similar amounts of hard driving between both oils, but my wear came in at 2x to 3x on Gen 2 compared to the 300V.

I think this goes to prove oil does matter if you push the car in the canyons and you are tuned.

Needless to say I'm staying with 300V, Redline or HPL oils from now on.
What about Motul 8100 x-max 0w-40? Seems like it has not been talked much in this thread
300V > Gen 2 > Xmax based on HTHS. Xmax also lost its LL-01 designation
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You are overthinking.
That doesn't mean anything. Some oils will have more iron shed firs time using.
In the end, UOA is designed to analyze oil not engine.
Another thing, you don't have TAN. TAN is key if you using oil like 300V.
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edycol I saw in one of your previous posts you said the best oil to use for BMWs was:

LL01 approval in this order:
Motul X-Cess 5W40 GEN2
Pennzoil Platinum Euro 5W40
Valvoline European Vehicle 5W40

Is this still true for F8x with S55?
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edycol I saw in one of your previous posts you said the best oil to use for BMWs was:

LL01 approval in this order:
Motul X-Cess 5W40 GEN2
Pennzoil Platinum Euro 5W40
Valvoline European Vehicle 5W40

Is this still true for F8x with S55?
Motul and Pennzoil are equal IMO. Motul provides bit more info, and I like that.
And yes, both excellent choices in S55. If out of warranty warranty, Castrol Edge 0W40 too.
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edycol I saw in one of your previous posts you said the best oil to use for BMWs was:

LL01 approval in this order:
Motul X-Cess 5W40 GEN2
Pennzoil Platinum Euro 5W40
Valvoline European Vehicle 5W40

Is this still true for F8x with S55?
Motul and Pennzoil are equal IMO. Motul provides bit more info, and I like that.
And yes, both excellent choices in S55. If out of warranty warranty, Castrol Edge 0W40 too.
As far as viscosity is Motul 5w-40 that much thicker than Castrol 0w-40? If i remember correctly you said if doing more than 10 track days per year Motul is better but if less than 10 then castrol is better. Is that right?
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edycol I saw in one of your previous posts you said the best oil to use for BMWs was:

LL01 approval in this order:
Motul X-Cess 5W40 GEN2
Pennzoil Platinum Euro 5W40
Valvoline European Vehicle 5W40

Is this still true for F8x with S55?
Motul and Pennzoil are equal IMO. Motul provides bit more info, and I like that.
And yes, both excellent choices in S55. If out of warranty warranty, Castrol Edge 0W40 too.
As far as viscosity is Motul 5w-40 that much thicker than Castrol 0w-40? If i remember correctly you said if doing more than 10 track days per year Motul is better but if less than 10 then castrol is better. Is that right?
Motul 300V not this Motul X-Cess. It is not thickness, but choice of base stocks and additives.
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Don't go so heavy on track if no modifications that shear down oil. Don't forget, heavier oil creates more heat, takes away performance. If you are completely stock, you are doing more harm than good.
Would you then say not to use Motul Sport 5W40 on a stock S55 with a dozen track days per year?
I ask because I purchased some to try based on posts here, but now reassessing as maybe most Motul Spot recommendations were made assuming the car is tuned.
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Don't go so heavy on track if no modifications that shear down oil. Don't forget, heavier oil creates more heat, takes away performance. If you are completely stock, you are doing more harm than good.
Would you then say not to use Motul Sport 5W40 on a stock S55 with a dozen track days per year?
I ask because I purchased some to try based on posts here, but now reassessing as maybe most Motul Spot recommendations were made assuming the car is tuned.
Motul Sport 5W40 is fine. It is good oil, not too heavy and good HTHS.
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Don't go so heavy on track if no modifications that shear down oil. Don't forget, heavier oil creates more heat, takes away performance. If you are completely stock, you are doing more harm than good.
Would you then say not to use Motul Sport 5W40 on a stock S55 with a dozen track days per year?
I ask because I purchased some to try based on posts here, but now reassessing as maybe most Motul Spot recommendations were made assuming the car is tuned.
Motul Sport 5W40 is fine. It is good oil, not too heavy and good HTHS.
What is the point of the sport line? Does it require more frequent change intervals than 8100 x-cess 5w40? motuls website doesn't provide much context
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Don't go so heavy on track if no modifications that shear down oil. Don't forget, heavier oil creates more heat, takes away performance. If you are completely stock, you are doing more harm than good.
Would you then say not to use Motul Sport 5W40 on a stock S55 with a dozen track days per year?
I ask because I purchased some to try based on posts here, but now reassessing as maybe most Motul Spot recommendations were made assuming the car is tuned.
Motul Sport 5W40 is fine. It is good oil, not too heavy and good HTHS.
What is the point of the sport line? Does it require more frequent change intervals than 8100 x-cess 5w40? motuls website doesn't provide much context
It is specific oil for track use but also has more anti-oxidants and less esters than 300V to keep it "street" usable. It is mostly PAO based with some esters. Think of it as dual brake pads.
Still, oxidation will be bit higher so 5k interval is good way to go. Motul is really good in controlling oxidation, so wouldn't worry about that interval.
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It is specific oil for track use but also has more anti-oxidants and less esters than 300V to keep it "street" usable. It is mostly PAO based with some esters. Think of it as dual brake pads.
Still, oxidation will be bit higher so 5k interval is good way to go. Motul is really good in controlling oxidation, so wouldn't worry about that interval.
So that's a yes to use with it being stock S55? Sorry

I change my oil once a year FYI. Only do 5k miles a year at most these past few years.
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It is specific oil for track use but also has more anti-oxidants and less esters than 300V to keep it "street" usable. It is mostly PAO based with some esters. Think of it as dual brake pads.
Still, oxidation will be bit higher so 5k interval is good way to go. Motul is really good in controlling oxidation, so wouldn't worry about that interval.
So that's a yes to use with it being stock S55? Sorry

I change my oil once a year FYI. Only do 5k miles a year at most these past few years.
Yeah. You can use it with no problems. Do UOA and ask for TAN so you can see where you at TBN and TAN wise.
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Now I'm second guessing my decision to use redline 5w30 instead of edge 0w40. This is a weekend car that does track duty spring to fall. No engine mods. Thoughts?
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I just switched to redline 5-40 for my m3 and 335i.
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Has this oil been mentioned on this thread? Can't find it. edycol...thoughts?

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/5w3...BoC2vAQAvD_BwE
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Now I'm second guessing my decision to use redline 5w30 instead of edge 0w40. This is a weekend car that does track duty spring to fall. No engine mods. Thoughts?
RL 5W30 Performance is good choice for vehicles that are running track more than street. Just be careful with OCI. Don't push it.
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Has this oil been mentioned on this thread? Can't find it. edycol...thoughts?

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/5w3...BoC2vAQAvD_BwE
I mean it is ok oil, but nothing better than Castrol Edge 5W30 A3/B4 that you can find in Wal Mart. Group III base stock.
It will do job. But better options there.
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Now I'm second guessing my decision to use redline 5w30 instead of edge 0w40. This is a weekend car that does track duty spring to fall. No engine mods. Thoughts?
RL 5W30 Performance is good choice for vehicles that are running track more than street. Just be careful with OCI. Don't push it.

Thanks. Guessing OCI = _____ Cold Ignition?
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