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With all this circlejerking over power and 1/4 mile trap speeds, maybe some of you guys would be better off in a GT500.
These aren't drag cars, and never will be. I don't see why some of you are even comparing an M3/4 to a 911S and a C7. The C7 is a two seater sports car, and the 911S is as close as you can get to two seats while still claiming four. The 911S also starts at $98,900 with no options. Both of these cars are also built on chassis designed from the ground up to be fast. The M3/M4 has to start with the F30 chassis, right? |
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09-24-2013, 01:51 PM | #314 | |
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Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires."
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Anyone else google on how to build up a patience tolerance or anything similar? lol
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With the lightweight technologies developed by BMWi now being spread across other models and brands, I wonder if any critics will still be claiming the i3 and i8 were not worthwhile investments?
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If BMW pull off a weight close to an 1M ............WOW
That would be something......... I really had 2nd thoughts about the M4, but this is exiting. Had some thought to change brand and go for a Cayman. But the M4, possible M2 have my fullest attention right now..... |
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Honestly I care very little about 1/4 mile times, as such my resort to using magazine numbers. I don't know if real world owners get 114 trap, but again its very low on my list of care. The Stingray seems to have some issue going on because there is no way in hell its trap speed should be slower than a stock C2S. Either way. I still feel as though the new F82 M3 will be very close in accelerative performance to the 991S, and as I said earlier, it may produce 997 GT3 types accelerative force. I still hold to that. All this other drag racing rubbish is unimportant.
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Not sure why I chime in on this one since I find the drag strip quite boring and the numbers achieved there of little interest but in my experience hp is the main factor for trap speed. The time is mainly power to weight with weight being very important since the time is a result of average speed ( as lap times on a track ) where a quick start is imperative. The 1/4 mile however is long enough for cars to reach speeds where hp becomes very important to the final trap speed and heavier cars with huge power can build impressive speeds even with a so-so launch.
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This is true but weight trumps traction. Just look at the 1/4 time vs. contact patch on a one wheel drive stock Suzuki Hayabusa on stock tires...
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To increase speed you need to accelerate the object you want to increase speed on. To increase speed you need to apply a force and that force has to overcome the mass (weight) of the object. So mass IS important. Obviously the higher the speed the more aero drag you get (which is a opposing force to the engine's positive, or accelerative, force). At higher speeds you will also need a higher accelerative force (HP) to overcome drag and not just the weight (or mass). |
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