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      05-07-2015, 11:34 AM   #45
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Because that info has not been released/announced.

But it's clear from the photos alone what will/will not change cosmetically.
Any idea when we can expect that information?

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      05-07-2015, 11:35 AM   #46
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just looked again. same exact shape
On the close up pic, last in the opening post, the quarter panel seem to have a different shape. Could be a different angle though.
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On the close up pic, last in the opening post, the quarter panel seem to have a different shape. Could be a different angle though.
yeah the two there are from different angles.

They are identical IMO, from this angle

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Look again - new and old tail lights have different shapes.
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From an engineering standpoint, I HIGHLY doubt it. That would mean designing, testing, and producting new multimillion dollar stamping dies for the bodywork, which people would barely notice.
But they did exactly that on the E90

Not the case here though...
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      05-07-2015, 11:43 AM   #50
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I love how this picture turned YMB into Estoril and Long Beach Blue (at least on my 27" iMac) hahaha
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      05-07-2015, 11:47 AM   #51
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Nobody needs this car, all of us who have it want it! You waited a year, now one more for the Comp package, the extra 20hp or so? Please help us understand your reasoning :
Oh, really? Nobody needs this car? Have you surveyed everybody?

Some people need this car and they can't wait. Their needs are such that only a luxury GT sedan will suffice and they are dead set on the M3. For example, one of my friends needed a luxury GT sedan with balls after he had a kid. And you couldmt talk him out of the new M3. He couldn't wait for the competition package. Those were his circumstances.

As far as reasoning behind the competition package, it's actually very simple. The competition package in each generation of the M3 offered something that I liked. Something that was unavailable on the standard version.

For example, the e46 ZCP had a vastly improved steering ratio. This alone was worth buying a ZCP to me. I also loved the wheels. Everything else in that ZCP package I could live without.

On the e90 ZCP, the car was slightly lower. Just the right amount.

Now, you could argue all day long that you could retrofit all these upgrades. And that's true. But not everyone wants to retrofit stuff. Some people prefer it ready from the factory. Point is, you can give me a million reasons not to wait for the competition package. And I could give you a million reasons why it's worth the wait for me.

Plus, I'm still very much enjoying my e46 M3 daily. The longer I can delay the purchase of an F80 M3, the better I feel
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      05-07-2015, 11:52 AM   #52
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Yes but the LED tail lights are saline-powered from the tears of 2015 buyers.
Made me laugh, thanks GG
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      05-07-2015, 11:53 AM   #53
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I need a 2016 because Im taking a 2016 ED next spring, so 2015 was never a consideration for me. I need a new car, and I want an M3. I guess you can count me in as both someone who needs and wants one

Its funny but some people are acting like fans of a sport team as if their 2015 M3 team is a rival against the 2016 M3. The jabbing at future 2016 owners is apt to high school banter.
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      05-07-2015, 12:00 PM   #55
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Nobody needs this car, all of us who have it want it! You waited a year, now one more for the Comp package, the extra 20hp or so? Please help us understand your reasoning :
Oh, really? Nobody needs this car? Have you surveyed everybody?

Some people need this car and they can't wait. Their needs are such that only a luxury GT sedan will suffice and they are dead set on the M3. For example, one of my friends needed a luxury GT sedan with balls after he had a kid. And you couldmt talk him out of the new M3. He couldn't wait for the competition package. Those were his circumstances.

As far as reasoning behind the competition package, it's actually very simple. The competition package in each generation of the M3 offered something that I liked. Something that was unavailable on the standard version.

For example, the e46 ZCP had a vastly improved steering ratio. This alone was worth buying a ZCP to me. I also loved the wheels. Everything else in that ZCP package I could live without.

On the e90 ZCP, the car was slightly lower. Just the right amount.

Now, you could argue all day long that you could retrofit all these upgrades. And that's true. But not everyone wants to retrofit stuff. Some people prefer it ready from the factory. Point is, you can give me a million reasons not to wait for the competition package. And I could give you a million reasons why it's worth the wait for me.

Plus, I'm still very much enjoying my e46 M3 daily. The longer I can delay the purchase of an F80 M3, the better I feel
I haven't surveyed everybody but i think you misunderstood what i said and perhaps look up want vs need.
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Not going to trade in, but I'll take those tails though .
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      05-07-2015, 12:03 PM   #58
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yeah the two there are from different angles.

They are identical IMO, from this angle

Those are the same computer generated picture with the taillights changed. Not a real car.
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yeah the two there are from different angles.

They are identical IMO, from this angle

[img]http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/att...5&d=1431011002[/img]
Those are the same computer generated picture with the taillights changed. Not a real car.
I understand that. Was just pointing out to the other member who said they were different shapes.

The tail lights are the exact same from the exact same image.
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Jesus christ... what does updated idrive mean?
Font change. Bwhahahaha
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      05-07-2015, 12:27 PM   #61
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Even if competition package was added it wasn't worth a wait, let alone this. So now people wsit another year in hopes of competition package? Had I waited two years thst would be nuts.

I think I prefer the 2015 lights to these.
Agree. To those that waited, not worth it. The new tails actually dont look as good. I would need to see in person, but seems quite minor overall.
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Agree. To those that waited, not worth it. The new tails actually dont look as good. I would need to see in person, but seems quite minor overall.
While I agree,

I do think that after a few years I would prefer them just because my brain associates them with being "newer"

But the change is nothing like the E90. That had atrocious looking pre lci lights, then beautiful lci lights. The F30 came right out of the gate with lights just as nice or nicer than the E90 lci.
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BMW... Why chrome accents inside? WHY? WHY?

Chrome has no place in a sporty car unless it is made by Mercedes IMO. I'm crying a bit inside.
100% agree. I like the interior well enough in our Cayenne but the chrome accents make me cringe, who is it that want chrome inside the car!?!? Why do car manufacturers think this is desirable in any shape or form? And in an M3? Crazy.
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Am I the only one who thinks the new LED taillights look worse than the "old" 2015 lights? Not a fan based on these pics...will have to see in person I guess...
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Am I the only one who thinks the new LED taillights look worse than the "old" 2015 lights? Not a fan based on these pics...will have to see in person I guess...
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