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The photo you posted is too close to see correctly. The dots around the edge of the window will look like it has a slightly silvery appearance which is actually air trapped around the dots. In dark factory glass like you see on trucks and SUVs you don’t even see these dots because the glass itself is tinted not just the inside surface. Tell the dealer to send you some more pictures of the glass and less you have some you can look at. I completely understand your hesitancy to completely believe I’m right but this is my field of expertise. Just let me know when you find out it’s aftermarket Tint. |
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01-12-2020, 07:47 AM | #50 | |
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I lived in Europe 2010-2012 and you can order factory darkened windows, there is no tint film on them. |
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01-12-2020, 09:00 AM | #51 |
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Can the dealer not just remove the door trim panel and look at the bottom portion of the glass? If it is factory, the entire piece of glass will be tinted. If it is aftermarket tint, it won’t cover the glass all the way to the bottom?
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It is not film. Razor blade can not lift or scratch. I want tintking to be right but it just seems that there is an option for darker than 35% OEM privacy glass and that would make the car illegal in Maryland from day 1.
But.... It depends on how you read the regs. The code of Maryland regulations mentions the application of Post manufacture window film and gives the parameters what is allowed. The entire section of the regulations mentions Post manufacturer over and over. One interpretation would be that if there is Not any application of anything post manufacture than that entire section of the regulations doesn’t apply. Unfortunately the state police trooper that was called to the inspection place to make a judgment thought otherwise. I thought about getting a lawyer involved. But that starts to seem kind of crazy. Why the fuck would I have to pay a lawyer to help register bone stock production car? |
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Well there you go, new guy comes onboard and all things are now in disarray. Way to go new guy.
I wonder if a call to BMW USA might be in order? Have nothing to lose (except time). Ps of note, for the other poster, this edition was available in both DCT and manual -but none had a sunroof I believe.
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01-12-2020, 05:47 PM | #54 |
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I called BMW USA. Useless talking to the rent a clerk that answered the phone. I need access to a real product manager or field sericpve tech/engineer that actually knows something.
Anyone have any way to contact someone with real knowledge? |
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doubtful you would get better answers than this fourm
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Something is very off here.
The glass is DOT approved with a DOT approval number. It would not be if illegal. Furthermore, there is a part number for a USA with option 420, yet, if you put that part number in GetBMWParts.com (which is in a Maryland, fwiw) or any other online BMW Parts Supplier, it comes up not found. Makes one wonder how you would replace if the window was ever damaged On top of that, there is a difference in the appearance of the replacement glass. See below https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...diagId=51_8484 |
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Very interesting. Being from the UK I would guess that over 90% of our new cars have the option “Sun protection glass” on everything from the B pillar back. Front side window tints and windscreen tints are a huge no go over here. Police will literally stop you and make you rip it off at the roadside, and then give you a fine/ticket.
I actually quite like the half tinted look now, used to hate it, but familiarity breeds contempt. Now cars without any tints look odd. Anyways OP, hope you get a solution and get your car registered soon. Best of luck.
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Are we in Europe? Is this a European spec car? What’s normal or common in other countries has no bearing if we are talking about a vehicle in the US in my opinion.
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Damn tintking. We are not ignoring your info but it seems you are ignoring the fact that this car (and other 30th Jahres I have found) are built with option S420A right on the build sheet which is factory "sun protection glazing" which is common on SUVs and may be common in ROW.
I agree that it makes no sense that this option could be installed and not be legal and that is the entire point of this long, confusing and inconclusive thread. Something just doesn't make sense. I did not personally test windows with razor. I want you to be right. Maybe I drive 3 hours today and see for myself due to your confidence? Or maybe I'll try to get some more photos. |
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Tint guy trying to throw his tint knowledge around in a thread where it's not applicable.....please stop muddying the waters.
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Let me say I apologize for sounding cocky in all of this but I find it incredibly unlikely that this is not aftermarket film. I guess anything is possible but in over 25 years of experience in the car tinting business I have never encountered this and have never heard about it from any other tint shop owners So I will be very interested to find out what the end result is.
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