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      01-20-2020, 08:38 PM   #1
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Taking the M on long range trip ?

Hey guys this spring planning to take the F83 on a long trip and having some fun in the sun..and kind of worried since the car does not have a spare or a jack.. i don't want to carry a full size spare as there is limited trunk space in the car as is.. I do have towing form AAA & my auto insurance and BMW roadside assistance. Do all BMW dealer carry these tires in stock (20' competition wheels) in stock?

I read somewhere that the spare tire does not fit in the trunk well either.. what are my options besides flying and getting a rental? I rather take my F83 but don't want to get stuck either..
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I can tell you my local dealer didnít carry the OEM size 19Ē PSS when I first moved to town - twice had to deal with 2-3 day delivery.
Once a few more F8x cars came into town, I convinced them to keep a couple front and rear on hand.

Now I have non-OEM PS4S. If youíre in that post, forget about the dealer having what you need.
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You have the mobility kit in the trunk right? That would help you out if it was just a puncture. Something serious like hitting a big pothole and blowing out the sidewall and your screwed. Happened to me. Luckily close to home. By the way, regular AAA membership only pays for towing like 3-5 miles but for about $25 you can upgrade to gold plan and it provides for 100 miles of towing. I want some fun in the sun...Iím a Vert owner too!
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There's been lots of discussion here about this. The best solution seems to be a plug kit and a dedicated portable compressor. And for backup, a AAA Premier membership (200 mile tow) which will tow you to a location of your choice. BMW Assist will only tow you to the closest BMW dealer within a certain range. Your insurance roadside assistance may also limit you to a shorter range.

I personally have two different kinds of plug kits and a VIAIR 85P portable air compressor for my M4. My wife has the same for her M3. We also have a AAA Premier membership

The M Mobility Kit is junk, just store it in your garage until you sell the car. Common wisdom is to not use the liquid sealant gunk in the canister. The compressor is inferior compared to a decent quality portable air compressor.

FWIW, both my wife and I did Euro Delivery and drove nearly 2,000 miles in Europe each time. I've driven from San Diego to Monterey twice, 440 miles each way. No problems.
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There's been lots of discussion here about this. The best solution seems to be a plug kit and a dedicated portable compressor. And for backup, a AAA Premier membership (200 mile tow) which will tow you to a location of your choice. BMW Assist will only tow you to the closest BMW dealer within a certain range. Your insurance roadside assistance may also limit you to a shorter range.

I personally have two different kinds of plug kits and a VIAIR 85P portable air compressor for my M4. My wife has the same for her M3. We also have a AAA Premier membership

The M Mobility Kit is junk, just store it in your garage until you sell the car. Common wisdom is to not use the liquid sealant gunk in the canister. The compressor is inferior compared to a decent quality portable air compressor.

FWIW, both my wife and I did Euro Delivery and drove nearly 2,000 miles in Europe each time. I've driven from San Diego to Monterey twice, 440 miles each way. No problems.
+1 for the 85P and throwing together your own plug kit in place of the M Mobility Kit.

Also, just drive the car!! I've had several new sets of tires, twice this was due to irreparable sidewall damage. Both events occurred within 5 miles of home (one of which was only 3 miles into a planned 300+ mile weekend trip). Point being - if it happens, it happens, and it's super inconvenient regardless of circumstances. So, just drive and don't worry, then deal if you must.
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There's been lots of discussion here about this. The best solution seems to be a plug kit and a dedicated portable compressor. And for backup, a AAA Premier membership (200 mile tow) which will tow you to a location of your choice. BMW Assist will only tow you to the closest BMW dealer within a certain range. Your insurance roadside assistance may also limit you to a shorter range.

I personally have two different kinds of plug kits and a VIAIR 85P portable air compressor for my M4. My wife has the same for her M3. We also have a AAA Premier membership

The M Mobility Kit is junk, just store it in your garage until you sell the car. Common wisdom is to not use the liquid sealant gunk in the canister. The compressor is inferior compared to a decent quality portable air compressor.

FWIW, both my wife and I did Euro Delivery and drove nearly 2,000 miles in Europe each time. I've driven from San Diego to Monterey twice, 440 miles each way. No problems.
What kind of plug kits do you have and where can you get them? I would want to avoid using the sealant gunk unless I still had 100 miles to get to my destination. Anything bad about using it other than making a mess?
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I carry plug kit and compressor in my car with portable 3 ton floor rolling Jack in its own plastic case. I have done 2 cross country trips NY to CA and Back with no problem in my M5.
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What kind of plug kits do you have and where can you get them? I would want to avoid using the sealant gunk unless I still had 100 miles to get to my destination. Anything bad about using it other than making a mess?
The spray sealant has been known to screw up the TPMS sensor. Also (on a different car), I've personally made the mistake of letting it settle in the dependent portion of the tire for a bit too long. This caused some serious balance issues until the centrifugal force eventually smoothed it out along the inner surface of the tire.
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I blasted through 1,000+ miles. The car held fine other than my front lip being thrashed. BMW roadside assistance is garbage. FYI, AAA coverage/service is nationwide but if you want to make a claim, call YOUR regional office.
Study your map & rest area prior, safe strip.
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OP, I did several thousand miles during euro and pc deliveries.

+1 on plug kit and compressor.

How far off the beaten path are you? Consider a sat phone rental if you are going deep into mountains in middle of nowhere
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I carry plug kit and compressor in my car with portable 3 ton floor rolling Jack in its own plastic case. I have done 2 cross country trips NY to CA and Back with no problem in my M5.
Can you post a link for the plug kit? thanks
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What kind of plug kits do you have and where can you get them? I would want to avoid using the sealant gunk unless I still had 100 miles to get to my destination. Anything bad about using it other than making a mess?
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Can you post a link for the plug kit? thanks
There are a bunch of plug kits on Amazon, just search for "tire plug kit" in the Automotive section. Click on the pics below to go to the Amazon link for each plug kit.

This is the first plug kit that I bought. Slime (the original maker of the tire repair goo, AFAIK!) has long been involved in tire repair. They have a lot of different kits:


A friend recommended this one, and he's used it twice:


Disclaimer: I've never used either of these so I can't personally vouch for how well they work. My friend did use the Dynaplug twice and said it worked great. They're pretty inexpensive so I have both. Remember that these are only designed to get you to a tire store where a proper repair can be done. They will only work if the puncture is in the tread, not in the sidewall. Bottom line, a puncture is going to be inconvenient, and unless you have a full size spare, you're going to have to stop and have it addressed. But they do offer some peace of mind.

As an added bonus, here's the air compressor that I keep in the same place where the M Mobility Kit was, along with the plug kits. My wife and I both have this compressor and the above plug kits in our Ms. We've used this many times at autocrosses and at tracks to get the tire pressure back up to the correct psi to drive home after bleeding off the tires all day.
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I bought the M compatible donut and stash it in my F83 trunk, face down. It fits well and while it's true that it takes up space you can still fit a few small bags in there with it (use the donut's well for loose items) and still be able to drop the top. If it's just you and your significant other, you can stash larger bags in the back seat under the wind deflector. After all the rear seats rarely see use. I chose not to get a jack, but did buy some jack pads. This way you have an option for having AAA jack the car (properly too in case they don't have the right pads) slap on the donut and you can drive it yourself to your repair place of choice.
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A plug kit can just be done at a local tire shop with assistance from AAA. I think the compact spare is WELL worth it. You are being more paranoid than just prepared. I hope your roadtrip is fantastic. I've gone to Boston and back multiple times without even thinking about it.
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There are a bunch of plug kits on Amazon, just search for "tire plug kit" in the Automotive section. Click on the pics below to go to the Amazon link for each plug kit.

This is the first plug kit that I bought. Slime (the original maker of the tire repair goo, AFAIK!) has long been involved in tire repair. They have a lot of different kits:
I've personally used this slime kit (on wife's old e90 328) and the repaired tire lasted for the remaining 2.5 years of the lease and was on the car at lease return without issues.
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There are a bunch of plug kits on Amazon, just search for "tire plug kit" in the Automotive section. Click on the pics below to go to the Amazon link for each plug kit.

This is the first plug kit that I bought. Slime (the original maker of the tire repair goo, AFAIK!) has long been involved in tire repair. They have a lot of different kits:
I've personally used this slime kit (on wife's old e90 328) and the repaired tire lasted for the remaining 2.5 years of the lease and was on the car at lease return without issues.
I used the same kit on one of my rear tires on my e90 M3, and the the plug worked great until I bought new tires which was about a year later.
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I've personally used this slime kit (on wife's old e90 328) and the repaired tire lasted for the remaining 2.5 years of the lease and was on the car at lease return without issues.
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I used the same kit on one of my rear tires on my e90 M3, and the the plug worked great until I bought new tires which was about a year later.
This is great feedback! I think that you're supposed to get the puncture fixed properly with an inside patch at a tire store though, but good to know that it lasted so long!
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I bought the M compatible donut...
This knocked a couple of memory cells loose and I seem to remember caveats about using a mini-spare on the rear wheels of a car with a limited-slip differential. I found this on the Tire Rack website:
"If a Temporary/Compact Spare tire is used in a driven-wheel position, any differences in tire revolutions per mile require the vehicle's driveline to compensate continuously, increasing heat, wear and the possibility of failure. This is especially true for four-wheel and all-wheel drive vehicles, as well as any vehicle equipped with a limited-slip differential."

"For this reason, many vehicle manufacturers recommend using Temporary/Compact Spare tires only in non-driven-wheel positions."
Source: https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiret...sp?techid=237S

Edited to add: Now I know where I remember this from!

I used to have an S2000, which has a limited-slip differential. It had a staggered tire setup, and it had a mini-spare tire with a jack. The owner's manual recommended that if you got a flat in the rear tire, that you jack up the front, remove the front tire and replace it with the mini-spare, then jack up the rear, and replace the flat rear tire with the front tire.

To store the flat rear tire, you had to take out the styrofoam piece which sat in the bottom of the trunk well and held the jack and the lug wrench. You stored the flat rear tire vertically upright in the empty trunk well and stored the styrofoam in the upper space above the rear axle where the mini-spare was normally stored. I got a flat in the right rear tire twice in the 13 years that I had that car!
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Just drive the damn thing and worry about it later if it actually becomes a problem which is a tiny chance
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I bought the M compatible donut and stash it in my F83 trunk, face down. It fits well and while it's true that it takes up space you can still fit a few small bags in there with it (use the donut's well for loose items) and still be able to drop the top. If it's just you and your significant other, you can stash larger bags in the back seat under the wind deflector. After all the rear seats rarely see use. I chose not to get a jack, but did buy some jack pads. This way you have an option for having AAA jack the car (properly too in case they don't have the right pads) slap on the donut and you can drive it yourself to your repair place of choice.
Hi Icebiker, can you post a pic of the donut spare in your trunk when you get a chance? does it fit in the trunk well?
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@PhatLyfe sure will do tomorrow. Yes it fits neatly in the trunk. Just know that it doesn't clear CCB's only Standard (blue) brakes.

@@[SD ///M4] interesting. The donut is the same diameter (26") as the 255/40/18 front tire. But the rear tire is 26.7". So even the Honda "swap the front to the rear" trick wouldn't work?
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Buy a portable compressor and a plug kit and hope for the best. Other than that there is nothing else you can do bc you cant 4 fit tires and wheels in the trunk.

Just try to be on the lookout for potholes.
Dealers don't stock the MPSS's here anymore so they force you to buy MPS4's in pairs so that the tires match all around.

Plug kit at walmart for $6-10 bucks and compressor off amazon for $30.
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