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      08-28-2017, 07:17 PM   #23
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Cancelling your order on the spot? hahahaha
No I'll sick my wife On them. She can be quite convincing.
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That is some great clarification. Hopefully one of the recent BMW ED members here can chime in? CenCal M4 toni8284 keylime503 Lytics
I got a full tank as well (August '17). All US Euro deliveries should come with a full tank I believe.
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No I'll sick my wife On them. She can be quite convincing.
I know the feeling! lol
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Can confirm, all US ED's are considered "Premium ED" at the Welt which means full tank of gas. I assume the gas is filled right before they bring your car up the glass elevator and it is not stored with more than 1/4 while waiting for you to get to Europe.
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yea Full tank for all US spec is what I've been told and our Canadian neighbor will get the 1/4 tank
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What? You better be joking.
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yea Full tank for all US spec is what I've been told and our Canadian neighbor will get the 1/4 tank
yea suck it canadians!!!

As a honda guy, I'm tired of all the benefits you guys get with hondas... bout time someone hooked up the americans! lol

(I'm kidding if the sarcasm didnt come through lol)
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yea Full tank for all US spec is what I've been told and our Canadian neighbor will get the 1/4 tank
yea suck it canadians!!!

As a honda guy, I'm tired of all the benefits you guys get with hondas... bout time someone hooked up the americans! lol

(I'm kidding if the sarcasm didnt come through lol)
I get you are joking but what do they get with Hondas?!?!? I am intrigued. Is it the Type-R.
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Lol we don't have any special benefits on honda's.
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In '13 we did not then in '15 we did get a full tank.

My understanding is the U.S. dealers fought for it.

They are able to get around because the majority of the cars in the garage are for European customers and their cars don't come full. So the aggregate amount of gasoline is still less than the regulations.
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In '13 we did not then in '15 we did get a full tank.

My understanding is the U.S. dealers fought for it.

They are able to get around because the majority of the cars in the garage are for European customers and their cars don't come full. So the aggregate amount of gasoline is still less than the regulations.
Great to know!
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yea Full tank for all US spec is what I've been told and our Canadian neighbor will get the 1/4 tank
yea suck it canadians!!!

As a honda guy, I'm tired of all the benefits you guys get with hondas... bout time someone hooked up the americans! lol

(I'm kidding if the sarcasm didnt come through lol)
Got a full tank in May for my Canadian car.
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The gifts are a little disappointing. Would be nice to receive something substantial. Weren't people getting some nice stuff in 2016?
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The gifts are a little disappointing. Would be nice to receive something substantial. Weren't people getting some nice stuff in 2016?
Seriously? all that shit is just a way to get you into munich watch shops or whatever, I've never gone to the trouble to go get any of it. Pretty focused on the car once I get to the Welt as I have enough random crap.

Full tank, GPS me to the autobahn, and point me to the exit bitches.

EDIT: I did appreciate the headphones they mailed me a few weeks ago, though

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Seriously? all that shit is just a way to get you into munich watch shops or whatever, I've never gone to the trouble to go get any of it. Pretty focused on the car once I get to the Welt as I have enough random crap.

Full tank, GPS me to the autobahn, and point me to the exit bitches.

EDIT: I did appreciate the headphones they mailed me a few weeks ago, though

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Ill take a pair as well, thank you.
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That's not an ED gift right? Looks like a gift for Bmw loyalty.
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That's not an ED gift right? Looks like a gift for Bmw loyalty.
Correct, not an ED gift ... although I kind of think of it as one as I've only ever done minorly individual ED, and they sent me this right after my last order and it came at the same time as my ED packet.

BMW has a distinct competitive advantage with their ED program, but they've been watering it down lately. I think they need to improve the ED discounted price, include the safety vests, but everything else can go.

All of the "gifts" are a mechanism to get you into the gift shop or some partner's shop (in the case of clock/watch thing). This is missing a massive opportunity:

(1.) Put a motorsports / apparel mini store in the ED lounge (keep you special and out of the riff-raff)

(2.) Put an individual studio in the ED lounge

(3.) Make it possible to configure and order cars from the ED lounge

(4.) Make the BMW tire rental program connect with a state-side (in whatever country) program so you can buy home-country winter wheels/tires and it comes with a free ED rental

(5.) Same with performance parts - figure out how to ED with the normally port installed parts

(6.) Build a fucking track so you could do ED PCD

(7.) Do a culinary option with the restaurant and ...? I don't know what those foodies fuckers do, but do that

(8.) Have a detailing clinic area where you teach people how to detail and then sell them the products and tools

(9.) Sell tuning packages

(10.) Have an insiders tour of ///M and some of the test mules, let people drive them

The margins on all of that stuff would be massive and it could easily fund a steeper discount for everyone which would then expand the program which would then create evangelists.


Net-net: BMW has a great (the best) ED program, but it's backsliding. Fewer gifts and more services is the answer to reinvigorate it.
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Correct, not an ED gift ... although I kind of think of it as one as I've only ever done minorly individual ED, and they sent me this right after my last order and it came at the same time as my ED packet.

BMW has a distinct competitive advantage with their ED program, but they've been watering it down lately. I think they need to improve the ED discounted price, include the safety vests, but everything else can go.

All of the "gifts" are a mechanism to get you into the gift shop or some partner's shop (in the case of clock/watch thing). This is missing a massive opportunity:

(1.) Put a motorsports / apparel mini store in the ED lounge (keep you special and our of the riff-raff)

(2.) Put an individual studio in the ED lounge

(3.) Make it possible to configure and order cars from the ED lounge

(4.) Make the BMW tire rental program connect with a state-side (in whatever country) program so you can buy home-country winter wheels/tires and it comes with a free ED rental

(5.) Same with performance parts - figure out how to ED with the normally port installed parts

(6.) Build a fucking track so you could do ED PCD

(7.) Do a culinary option with the restaurant and ...? I don't know what those foodies fuckers do, but do that

(8.) Have a detailing clinic area where you teach people how to detail and then sell them the products and tools

(9.) Sell tuning packages

(10.) Have an insiders tour of ///M and some of the test mules, let people drive them

The margins on all of that stuff would be massive and it could easily fund a steeper discount for everyone which would then expand the program which would then create evangelists.


Net-net: BMW has a great (the best) ED program, but it's backsliding. Fewer gifts and more services is the answer to reinvigorate it.
I agree. I would never have any use for the H&K Bluetooth speaker, but I would thoroughly enjoy nearly all ten of the things you posted above.
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Correct, not an ED gift ... although I kind of think of it as one as I've only ever done minorly individual ED, and they sent me this right after my last order and it came at the same time as my ED packet.

BMW has a distinct competitive advantage with their ED program, but they've been watering it down lately. I think they need to improve the ED discounted price, include the safety vests, but everything else can go.

All of the "gifts" are a mechanism to get you into the gift shop or some partner's shop (in the case of clock/watch thing). This is missing a massive opportunity:

(1.) Put a motorsports / apparel mini store in the ED lounge (keep you special and our of the riff-raff)

(2.) Put an individual studio in the ED lounge

(3.) Make it possible to configure and order cars from the ED lounge

(4.) Make the BMW tire rental program connect with a state-side (in whatever country) program so you can buy home-country winter wheels/tires and it comes with a free ED rental

(5.) Same with performance parts - figure out how to ED with the normally port installed parts

(6.) Build a fucking track so you could do ED PCD

(7.) Do a culinary option with the restaurant and ...? I don't know what those foodies fuckers do, but do that

(8.) Have a detailing clinic area where you teach people how to detail and then sell them the products and tools

(9.) Sell tuning packages

(10.) Have an insiders tour of ///M and some of the test mules, let people drive them

The margins on all of that stuff would be massive and it could easily fund a steeper discount for everyone which would then expand the program which would then create evangelists.


Net-net: BMW has a great (the best) ED program, but it's backsliding. Fewer gifts and more services is the answer to reinvigorate it.
I agree. I would never have any use for the H&K Bluetooth speaker, but I would thoroughly enjoy nearly all ten of the things you posted above.
The BMW Ultimate benefits portal is offering 20% off the B&W T7, MRSP is $350. In the past it was the B&O Beoplay A2, H3 that BMW discounted; owners who purchased the upgraded factory B&O stereo received a voucher in owners manual for the 3i headset, as the Atlanta B&O store let me use the $179 credit towards a pair of H6.

I know this is off topic, by SiriusXM in service date is the ED Welt delivery date, NOT US re-delivery date. As SiriusXM is included in most BMW's this also includes access to steaming, so I assume that we all should obtain the in car radio serial number and call up SiriusXM to activate during shipment. I'm going to e-mail the SiriusXM BMW manager (if he's still there) to clarify this.
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The BMW Ultimate benefits portal is offering 20% off the B&W T7, MRSP is $350. In the past it was the B&O Beoplay A2, H3 that BMW discounted; owners who purchased the upgraded factory B&O stereo received a voucher in owners manual for the 3i headset, as the Atlanta B&O store let me use the $179 credit towards a pair of H6.

I know this is off topic, by SiriusXM in service date is the ED Welt delivery date, NOT US re-delivery date. As SiriusXM is included in most BMW's this also includes access to steaming, so I assume that we all should obtain the in car radio serial number and call up SiriusXM to activate during shipment. I'm going to e-mail the SiriusXM BMW manager (if he's still there) to clarify this.
Keep us updated.
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