Peter for sale because of LED's.

[Lups]

Originally Posted by solstice

Buy some new power tools instead and go nuts with, hold on to Peter until it makes more sense to trade. You'll take a big fat bath selling him now including moving all those mods. But what do I know

Yeah, I was designing a house on the road in my head. You're right as always Sol. And the mods would go with him since I couldn't strip him. It would feel wrong.

[M Heart]

I said it before and I'll say it again. I do "see better and farther away" with Xenon headlamps over LED. From personal experience (may not be correct) LED's are brighter and draw more attention (hence used for tail lights, warning/safety lights and the like) but do not emit/project light output as far a xenon or projector light. As some have stated, the technology concept its great, they do look cool, but I don't think it's quite ready yet.

[Lups]

Originally Posted by M Heart

I said it before and I'll say it again. I do "see better and farther away" with Xenon headlamps over LED. From personal experience (may not be correct) LED's are brighter and draw more attention (hence used for tail lights, warning/safety lights and the like) but do not emit/project light output as far a xenon or projector light. As some have stated, the technology concept its great, they do look cool, but I don't think it's quite ready yet.

It is remarkable how less is more in this case.

Yes, the leds look great and are good for city runs but on the highway they make darkness more deadly.

I'm truly not trying to be a hater just because I can be, but maybe there will be an other driver with my tendency for fast road trips who is speculating with what to go with and after what I've seen, I thought this should be reported.

[V1.47fan]

How much do you want for your car?

[/// M sa]

Originally Posted by Lups

It is remarkable how less is more in this case.

Yes, the leds look great and are good for city runs but on the highway they make darkness more deadly.

I'm truly not trying to be a hater just because I can be, but maybe there will be an other driver with my tendency for fast road trips who is speculating with what to go with and after what I've seen, I thought this should be reported.

I really don't understand what your talking about Lupsy... I have 0 issues with my LEDs and they are coded and highway, back roads they work great and I can tell I am not blinding car in my lane or opposite lane. Something might be fucked up with Peters nipples 😀

[Lups]

Originally Posted by /// M sa

I really don't understand what your talking about Lupsy... I have 0 issues with my LEDs and they are coded and highway, back roads they work great and I can tell I am not blinding car in my lane or opposite lane. Something might be fucked up with Peters nipples ��

I wish they were

The blinding thing stopped with the coding, and of that I'm extremely happy about. The adaptive features just are all around bad in the back roads.

I truly wish I am the only one who will have a problem with the lights. Stay happy with yours because when I started to pay attention to these, that has been all I see.

For fucks sake, they are headlights, how insane can they drive a person...

[Xtabi]

You weirdo groupie guys are very much blinded by this 'Lups'. Acting all friendly, silly, and flirtatious.

I have been tracking her posts and see through her 'issues'.

The truth is she is selling the car to get rid of the evidence. Yes Lups I know the heat is getting to you. But parting with your car is not going to help. Nice try.

[Lups]

Originally Posted by Xtabi

You weirdo groupie guys are very much blinded by this 'Lups'. Acting all friendly, silly, and flirtatious.

I have been tracking her posts and see through her 'issues'.

The truth is she is selling the car to get rid of the evidence. Yes Lups I know the heat is getting to you. But parting with your car is not going to help. Nice try.

You were the one who ratted me out! I'll get you back for this even if I have to learn in jail how to make voodoo dolls and cause you to hit your big toe repeatedly to table legs! Next time that happens you know it was me!

Ha. I win.


Meh, I don't even notice some features like mirrors in the sun shades, but those headlights got me boiling over so damn many times I have endured a laughing spouse all day because I showed him what pics I took last night for this thread. He has spent the day sending them to our relatives as a proof I've finally gone completely mental because I use our kids toys to show off head lights.





Oh, and he keeps bringing me new toys like cop cars/ Lego police men I could use next.

[M4 LF]

Good to know thanks for sharing. I always thought that LEDs wasn't worth it. Look cool, but not worth it.

[F83]

Originally Posted by M4 LF

Good to know thanks for sharing. I always thought that LEDs wasn't worth it. Look cool, but not worth it.

Yeah feeling good about my Xenons. I hit high beam and they go high. Low, and they go low. Not fancy but the universe is in order.

Now I just need someone to convince me that full leather sucks and I am better off without it.

[TahoeM3]

You're a weird guy, Ace, a weird guy...

[Lups]

Originally Posted by F83

Yeah feeling good about my Xenons. I hit high beam and they go high. Low, and they go low. Not fancy but the universe is in order.

Now I just need someone to convince me that full leather sucks and I am better off without it.

Good luck with that one, I still want that even if I know my life needs cloth.

[Xtabi]

Originally Posted by Lups

You were the one who ratted me out! I'll get you back for this even if I have to learn in jail how to make voodoo dolls and cause you to hit your big toe repeatedly to table legs! Next time that happens you know it was me!

Ha. I win.


Meh, I don't even notice some features like mirrors in the sun shades, but those headlights got me boiling over so damn many times I have endured a laughing spouse all day because I showed him what pics I took last night for this thread. He has spent the day sending them to our relatives as a proof I've finally gone completely mental because I use our kids toys to show off head lights.





Oh, and he keeps bringing me new toys like cop cars/ Lego police men I could use next.

I played four years of soccer in college. My toes and shins are fairly immune to most forms of trauma, blunt and otherwise.

If you really are selling I wish you good luck!

I still have a month or so until I get my rocket ship.

[Lups]

Originally Posted by Xtabi

I played four years of soccer in college. My toes and shins are fairly immune to most forms of trauma, blunt and otherwise.

If you really are selling I wish you good luck!

I still have a month or so until I get my rocket ship.

Damn. I'll use the info gotten to make better payback then.

It'll be next summer when I get rid of him. I won't have the time to go nuts before that, and for city use the lights are good.

[ZPinhead]

Originally Posted by Lups

Or...
Keep him and replace the Audi with a GC M6 or an M5?

This thread should have stopped here because...duh of course that what you should do.

[Lups]

Originally Posted by ZPinhead

This thread should have stopped here because...duh of course that what you should do.

But I don't like them at all! Engine great, looks wrong, and the m6 as a dog hauler would make me even more hated than I am now at home.



I did bring up the topic of cars last night at home. Hubby stopped laughing around 2 am after I had listed the options he can choose from if Audi would go instead of Peter.

[V1.47fan]

Just an idea, mama lups.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by V1.47fan

Just an idea, mama lups.

Not bad for the Hella starter kit but the mid level version is the minimum needed for moose illumination.

[P-Bass]

Originally Posted by Lups

I love my car. I love the sound, the speed, I love the way it handles corners, fuck, I loved taking it to gravel. It is by far the best car I've ever owned, but it does not meet my needs. Here is why.

My real life, the 50 weeks in a year I'm not on some insane adventurous road trip, all I get to do with him mildly fast runs at night. For the last nine years that has been my escape, and the way I get my head cleared for the next day.

So why the lights that you all love drive me insane? The reasons are many.

The long beams come up too late. With the adaptive function and euro coding it is well beyond safe conditions when they start working, I mean it is too dark.

Fine you say, move on.

The thing is, without the adaptive feature, and it shifting the light from on coming traffic without putting the high beams off completely, the lights are extremely bright, and aimed badly. They are very, very wide, which of course is great on a freeway with no on coming traffic, but they are all around bad in real life.

The LED's shut off because of speed limit signs at times, because the lights are aimed so high. On both setups, the American standard and with the coding, this has happened to me multiple times. Also, I don't need to see the tree tops, I need to see the root level.

The light channels demonstrated in the videos are great. In real life, on a curvy road it gives wild life a good chance to hide since the adaptive lights forms shapes that will not give your eyes the chance to adapt.

I am 33 and I have perfect night vision. I also have the training for driving done in Finland, and I've had my fair share of bad encounters with wildlife. The photos below are just a mild demonstration. I just drove through 2/3 of Canada, and 1/3 of USA at night time, and I truly hope you consider my findings if you are driving at night like I am a lot.

As you know, I'm not a racer but I enjoy my speed, and I enjoy the quietness of night times. This technology will deliver later, but right now it is extremely harmful and quite dangerous.


I had to pay 10 dollars to get the tools for the demonstrative photos shown, so you know you're seeing quality shots below. I truly hope you have nicer kids than I have, since this thread has cost me a lot. All donations of horse photos will cut the cost down, so just send those if you disagree with me.

There has been questions about my coding done wrong, and anyone mildly local who wants to check my settings is welcome to do so. I truly hope the guy who has done these for years fucked up, but the guy let me have the both settings for a week before I went on my latest road trip.

The spice jars are trees, the horses moose, the cars are cars. I could really make a living as an artist as you see.



The lights being useful, when I'm tailgating, I can see the surroundings while not blinding the man who's bumper I'm looking at.



This happened a week ago, The first moose further stepped on the road, I applied brakes and while doing that, an other one stepped to the road. pure dumb luck saved me, since I didn't know there was a moose closer than the first seen was. These situations happens on two seconds time, so please tell me all about how you would put the adaptives off and switch to manual mode, while calculating the first moose's path. If the brakes were not what they are, this would've been a nasty crash.



On coming traffic won't be blinded, but since their headlights are not pointing to the road shared, a moose was coming both of our way and neither saw it coming. I got mine into a full stop, he got his into my lane and the man driving from the opposite direction actually asked me wtf was going on with my lights when neither of us spotted the furry BIG thing earlier. I told him I loved my lights so much I am done driving at night.

The light tunnels are good while on city areas, and there are other sources of light around you. In darkness where I drive, they form shadows where there shouldn't be one and them changing patterns irrationally I can not see them as anything else but a safety hazard.

As said, I have a really good and moderately young eyes and they were tested before my latest road trip because I was hoping this is just me complaining, but it wasn't the reason. A human eye is slow to adapt from the brightness provided by the LED's to the darkness and extremely short low beams they give us.

I had on this trip a ride in an M5 with the xenons, and the lights in that were all around more forgiving. the traffic signs alone not causing problems are a reason enough for me to sell my car and to find something that can be driven my style at the times I can hit the pavement.

@Mkoesel please don't move to this to the picture side just yet. I know the shots above are so good you're tempted to do so, but this thread was made to show the real safety issues my slow (women don't drive fast as we all know) miles done have given me a reason to report.

14 000 km's in 14 days. Please do argue with me.

Oh, a big pool of water two hundred meters in front of me got the lights shut off once too. on a wet asphalt, that was extra nice.

I guess I'm too old and sober to "get" this post. You don't like your LEDs and this is the way you express it? You think this is cute & clever?

Now I need a drink, and I'm still ordering the LEDs on my M3.

[BwoodBMW]

Wait... I thought the LEDs were almost universally loved...? Anybody else take issue with them?

[Lups]

Originally Posted by BwoodBMW

Wait... I thought the LEDs were almost universally loved...? Anybody else take issue with them?

Nope, nobody else complains.

[dmnc02]

Originally Posted by Lups

Nope, nobody else complains.

Actually, that is completely incorrect.

Bluex mentioned in post #22 that he complained earlier on and he has several posts in this forum to back up that claim. There are several additional people who complained months ago in this thread: Adaptive LED lighting turned on-wow. In all cases, the issue turned out to be incorrect recoding of the no-dazzle feature.

The correct statement is that nobody who has either left the LEDs alone as delivered or recoded them correctly complains.