Competition Package Coding

[dinonz]

Originally Posted by ferrarif1

Does anyone have a ZCP car that can share these files?

I am rethinking my different DME theory since the 03/16 part catalog has been published at realoem and etk which does not call out a different DME part for ZCP cars.

I won't have mine for another month yet.

[momo3605]

Bump! Someone with a zcp share the goods!!

[terahertz]

Originally Posted by ferrarif1

Does anyone have a ZCP car that can share these files?

I am rethinking my different DME theory since the 03/16 part catalog has been published at realoem and etk which does not call out a different DME part for ZCP cars.

I also noticed the DME was not different. I'm trying to figure out a way to update my car to a newer i-level first. BMW wouldn't do it for me.

Anyone in socal have a charger?

[Guleb]

Originally Posted by ferrarif1

If you can please save and share your SVT ("Read SVT" -> "Save") and NCD files from VDC, ICM, DSC and DME it would help evaluate.

I finally got my hands on M3 CompPack and here are the differences to my non-ZCP M3; first the value of my nonZCP, than ZCP. I posted only the differences.

ICM
CAF_ID:05 00 00 06 7B 002 011 002 non-ZCP M3 (build 01/2016)
CAF_ID:05 00 00 06 7B 002 012 000 M3 CompPack (build 04/2016)

C_Dac_Sensitivity: initwert, 00 L7 [00]
C_Dac_Sensitivity: initwert, initwert [00]
C_NVC_Exit_no_dyn_aktiv_l: aktiv, nicht_aktiv [00]
C_NVC_Exit_no_dyn_aktiv_l: aktiv, aktiv [00]
C_SLD_vmin_kmh: 30kmh, 20mph_MeilenBeispiel [06]
C_SLD_vmin_kmh: 30kmh, 30kmh [06]
HdlCalibHL_C0_Gradient_RL: 1630 F25, 1630_F8xM3 [06 5E]
HdlCalibHL_C0_Gradient_RL: 1630 F25, 1630 F25 [06 5E]
HdlCalibHL_S0_Offset_RR_high: 0100_F07, 0000_F25, 0000_Notlauf [00]
HdlCalibHL_S0_Offset_RR_high: 0100_F07, 0100_F07, 0100_F07 [00]
HdlCalibHL_S0_Offset_RR_low: 0000_F25, 0000_Notlauf [00]
HdlCalibHL_S0_Offset_RR_low: 0000_F25, 0000_F25 [00]
IcmKod_I_HSS_Connect: 05_Xenon_or_IAS, 05_VDC0_XENON [05]
IcmKod_I_HSS_Connect: 05_Xenon_or_IAS, 05_Xenon_or_IAS [05]
IcmKod_I_Karosserie: L6CD_F12, F80_0C [0C]
IcmKod_I_Karosserie: L6CD_RR4Cabrio, L6CD_RR4Cabrio [1A]
IcmKod_I_Motor: 05_L6CD_N74B60, 05_S55B30 [05]
IcmKod_I_Motor: 05_L6CD_N74B60, 05_L6CD_N74B60 [05]
SIGNATURE: UNKNOWN [00 00 00 20 5E D7 DA F6 38 0F 0D D8 91 9E F9 5D 81 E2 43 EC 56 5F 7E E7 10 81 EE 94 BF 12 97 27 82 F9 38 FA DF 55 68 52 43 85 8D 5D 96 78 02 64 C1 D8 36 F6 2D B2 C5 87 97 5F 7F 94 2F 30 0C AA EC 63 62 C5 DF E2 13 B8 E1 2E 81 17 CC 69 EF ED 8D 8E 6E 28 2F AE 37 17 5F 82 A2 4C 67 72 37 46 A6 18 5F D2 79 09 99 C7 01 87 45 B0 63 7D 62 44 94 86 8D 41 41 59 C6 2E C0 3E BA A5 65 43 84 F1 2C 22 0A A4]
SIGNATURE: UNKNOWN [00 00 00 20 46 86 A8 4C 2A 73 D6 11 FC 51 B2 74 15 C1 29 9D F9 68 76 7C 62 6F 5A 29 37 73 6C 7A 94 5E BE 9F 5F FA 2D 9B DD 01 75 FE B9 E7 8F 3C 70 D5 62 0E 82 BD 44 6C 83 8A 2E C6 D1 E8 71 E4 46 19 E8 52 0D 41 91 7F 3D 9A 79 E5 E7 B8 5A 32 53 0D 61 F9 5D 5C 64 A3 29 EA EA 00 A4 72 32 50 5C 08 B9 17 55 EF 5B 1B 66 3E 78 06 A5 08 A3 91 C0 0D 40 EF 0B D7 37 D6 88 B6 BD 95 96 E1 1B C8 47 11 E0 65]

DSC
CAF_ID:05 00 00 1A 33 000 007 003
CAF_ID:05 00 00 1A 33 001 003 002
CDtAmbPrewarn: initwert [0A]
CDtAmbPrewarn: UNK_PARAM_0 [C8]
CTRefShift: initwert [64]
CTRefShift: nicht_aktiv [00]
C_AMR_2_c: wert_3 [03]
C_AMR_2_c: wert_0 [00]
C_AMR_3_c: wert_7 [07]
C_AMR_3_c: wert_0 [00]
C_CBC_Gierrate_c: 0 [00]
C_CBC_Gierrate_c: nicht_aktiv [00]
C_CBC_Schlupf_c: 0 [00]
C_CBC_Schlupf_c: nicht_aktiv [00]
C_Codierdatum: 16 01 21
C_Codierdatum: 16 04 08
C_Funktion_CCC_VTG_Heulen_l: nicht_aktiv, aktiv [00]
C_Funktion_CCC_VTG_Heulen_l: nicht_aktiv, nicht_aktiv [00]
C_Mue_Split_QIR_Pause_Offset_c: 0 [00]
C_Mue_Split_QIR_Pause_Offset_c: nicht_aktiv [00]
C_Sportlenkung_verbaut_I: nicht_verbaut, verbaut [01]
C_Sportlenkung_verbaut_I: nicht_verbaut, nicht_verbaut [01]
C_Variante_Fahrzeug_e: F80 [00]
C_Variante_Fahrzeug_e: UNK_PARAM_1 [03]
C_qEBV_Aq_Thr_Faktor_c: 0 [00]
C_qEBV_Aq_Thr_Faktor_c: nicht_aktiv [00]
C_qEBV_DPSIP_Thr_Faktor_c: 0 [00]
C_qEBV_DPSIP_Thr_Faktor_c: nicht_aktiv [00]
C_qEBV_PressDiff_Faktor_c: 0 [00]
C_qEBV_PressDiff_Faktor_c: nicht_aktiv [00]
CalLrPDevMax: 50kpa [24]
CalLrPDevMax: UNK_PARAM_0 [20]
CalTimeConfUiw: initwert [0A]
CalTimeConfUiw: UNK_PARAM_0 [02]
DSC_CODIERDATEN_RDCI_18_18_2: I don't have that in my CAF!
DSC_CODIERDATEN_RDCI_18_18_2: aktiv [01]
DbgFctCodeASW: initwert, inaktiv [00]
DbgFctCodeASW: initwert, initwert [00]
DbgFctCodeAWL: initwert, inaktiv [00]
DbgFctCodeAWL: initwert, initwert [00]
DbgFctCodeLSE: initwert, inaktiv [00]
DbgFctCodeLSE: initwert, initwert [00]
DbgFctCodeWA: initwert, inaktiv [00]
DbgFctCodeWA: initwert, initwert [00]
MinRcpf: initwert [58]
MinRcpf: UNK_PARAM_0 [50]
MinRcpr: initwert [58]
MinRcpr: UNK_PARAM_0 [50]
SIGNATURE: UNKNOWN [00 00 00 20 EC 8E BD 62 34 FA CF 00 C4 79 E8 2E E7 A7 F0 48 59 50 30 7E 8D F0 CD 3B 3A F0 B6 6B A1 B6 1B DC 3F A9 D6 AC C4 1E 7C A7 9E 89 8C 11 60 08 24 0E DF 1D 6A 0B 9D 03 B9 0C 92 9D 86 29 30 83 DD 1F 5A E4 CE 00 64 45 23 27 14 4F 93 18 2B 0A A4 07 23 16 82 9C 1E 5F E5 FA 56 36 2A A7 C4 AD D1 9D 45 5E 38 73 A2 4A B3 81 6B 28 E7 6C 74 AD 2B 0C AC E9 B9 6C CE C3 BF 5F 41 AA 12 B3 66 0E 6A B2]
SIGNATURE: UNKNOWN [00 00 00 20 55 48 3A 2C 71 E4 B2 14 88 3B 7C CC 20 0E 7B E5 EC 34 74 65 1E DA 54 49 F8 F6 1F 2A 7A B5 10 1B B9 D4 7A 18 C0 24 70 08 7E 64 2A C1 B5 EF D1 BC 12 8D 71 BA 6A 9C 8D AC 17 AF 91 26 62 9E 97 2F C3 36 48 48 24 77 46 DF A3 FA 58 AC F8 CE C3 0C 55 11 D7 B4 78 97 7B 8B AA 03 48 71 F1 AF C6 A0 EA B0 8C 7A B7 3D 46 08 09 33 7E E1 C6 9F F2 30 A0 B2 44 F9 DF 1A 20 D6 8F BF E6 8F 6B 81 3E 8B]
UiwSetLevelDistMin: initwert [0C]
UiwSetLevelDistMin: UNK_PARAM_0 [08]

DME
CAF_ID:05 00 00 0B 0A 000 046 001
CAF_ID:05 00 00 0B 0A 000 052 001
AGK-Config: initwert, Wert_00 [00]
AGK-Config: initwert, initwert [00]
AKR-Variante: initwert, Wert_00 [00]
AKR-Variante: initwert, initwert [00]
BCU150: initwert, Wert_00 [00]
BCU150: initwert, initwert [00]
BZE: initwert, Wert_00 [00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00]
BZE: initwert, initwert [00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00]
DMDZMS: initwert, Wert_00 [00]
DMDZMS: initwert, initwert [00]
HFM-Kennlinie: initwert, HFM1 [00]
HFM-Kennlinie: initwert, initwert [00]
KAT: initwert, Wert_00 [00]
KAT: initwert, initwert [00]
Laendercodierung: default-Wert, RoW [00 00]
Laendercodierung: default-Wert, default-Wert [00 00]
MSA-Startervariante: initwert, Wert_00 [00]
MSA-Startervariante: initwert, initwert [00]
MSA-Version: initwert, Wert_00 [00]
MSA-Version: initwert, initwert [00]
Mil-Codierung: initwert, Wert_00 [00]
Mil-Codierung: initwert, initwert [00]
OEL-Config: Wert_04, Wert_17 [78 64]
OEL-Config: Wert_04, Wert_04 [78 64]
PCU500_U_I: initwert, Wert_00 [00]
PCU500_U_I: initwert, initwert [00]
SIGNATURE: UNKNOWN [20 00 00 00 DB 59 CB D9 60 47 5B F8 82 55 57 94 FE 53 1A E3 39 3E BC 00 42 8D 95 24 7B 89 26 71 6B 9C 28 D3 D8 6C 3C 44 E5 DB C4 B8 04 5D EE 10 2E 45 A9 A7 C7 C3 C2 82 4E 72 1A B3 3E 82 60 DA C6 55 B6 49 5A 5B D1 55 AB 6F 5E 53 7C CA DF BF 2F E1 3A C0 53 5C 6B 43 DB 23 E3 4D AD FC B9 77 74 D8 FC C8 06 3A BD 39 BC 18 55 BA 81 01 51 5C BC 57 BD 9E 06 A4 EB DB BA 9E 0D 3B A1 FC BD CA 22 FE E3 0B]
SIGNATURE: UNKNOWN [20 00 00 00 0E 6B 9E 66 D1 78 69 43 F4 EA 47 D8 91 73 9D C6 5A A9 08 37 0F AD 07 E1 C1 75 00 5F 9D B0 E9 A9 EB F4 23 0A 66 B4 9E E8 72 8E 08 FF 3E 1B AF 4F 0F 09 6A 25 03 93 A6 7D 05 70 25 A6 E3 C4 26 7B 59 06 21 5F 9E 35 E8 A6 30 2F 73 4E 60 33 D2 7E 04 9B E8 A0 92 1A EE 94 BD 62 CD C6 1B AA 3A B4 47 42 8E 9B E9 73 27 37 4A 01 EF ED 58 02 B4 15 CA B9 9E 96 BE AF B5 DF 41 0A 11 BE A6 15 B0 80]
SPA: initwert, Wert_00 [00]
SPA: initwert, initwert [00]
VSU: initwert, Wert_00 [00]
VSU: initwert, initwert [00]

VDC
CAF_ID:05 00 00 06 C6 003 002 010
CAF_ID:05 00 00 06 C6 003 002 012
Fahrzeugtyp: F80 [0F]
Fahrzeugtyp: F80_Comp [27]
M_Competition / High: nicht_aktiv [00]
M_Competition / High: aktiv [01]
SIGNATURE: UNKNOWN [00 00 00 20 EF 9D D8 A8 3E 93 5F 2F CF F9 8E 16 54 35 26 82 42 60 37 EC 87 DC 0B F4 A7 43 7D 96 0E 00 73 26 A6 EB 6A 3A FF 92 D9 21 6F 5E 00 46 F5 A3 F7 EC 69 9D DA 91 A6 6F 63 D9 7A 3B CC 1C 1E 08 FF 62 DA D6 C5 BF 84 61 DA CF 54 F7 05 D6 57 31 12 BC 15 EF D6 C7 20 F9 D7 F0 07 7E 18 C1 DA 67 7B 28 7D BC FE 60 F0 96 C2 70 6A 37 E8 B9 5C D1 A1 45 E5 2F 96 91 48 27 D0 17 52 D3 9B E8 3D 42 22 23]
SIGNATURE: UNKNOWN [00 00 00 20 01 68 6C 50 16 92 6E D3 D9 3F 37 76 38 C2 E7 86 96 F1 AA 04 4B 7E 2A C1 4B 0B 08 90 3F 49 DD DF 2A 1B 1A 8E 35 05 72 0E 73 D5 39 EC A2 53 79 CA 2B D1 62 AE 98 04 CC 3F 9A F1 43 39 53 9F 09 4F D3 D3 D2 DC 6B 8A 3B E9 5B 5C EF 67 D7 4F 23 7C 9B 13 33 E0 49 E0 42 3E 9B D5 62 5B 36 AF C6 72 93 DE 0E 24 E2 8C 84 FA EB FB 83 BA 61 B8 40 3D C7 5D FD 89 49 7B 39 FB 91 30 8E BF 6A 5F 2C 0C]

I hope this helps, because I don't know what is the meaning of the majority of those values.

[Guleb]

And the list of CAF files, that I don't have in mine SVT, but this particular ZCP have. Most are not important; power seats, keyless, mirrors, parking sensors.

CAFD_00000913_003_005_004 ACSM_4B
CAFD_00000223_013_009_015 TRSVC
CAFD_00000098_000_008_113 EKPM3
CAFD_000016EE_113_111_017 IHKA_VA02
CAFD_000016BF_001_008_051 LHM2
CAFD_000011B3_001_002_011 ZBE05TC
CAFD_000010BA_001_008_051 LHM2
CAFD_000007C3_015_001_000 GHAS01
CAFD_00001F61_001_011_003 ATM
CAFD_00001A2F_000_002_009 EPS
CAFD_00000FA2_002_001_001 AMP_TOPHB
CAFD_00000A08_003_012_000 FZD_07
CAFD_00000A07_002_018_000 FZD_07
CAFD_000000B5_012_004_029 CFAS_PLX_1
CAFD_000000AE_005_010_012 FLA_02

[ferrarif1]

Originally Posted by Guleb

And the list of CAF files, that I don't have in mine SVT, but this particular ZCP have. Most are not important; power seats, keyless, mirrors, parking sensors.

CAFD_00000913_003_005_004 ACSM_4B
CAFD_00000223_013_009_015 TRSVC
CAFD_00000098_000_008_113 EKPM3
CAFD_000016EE_113_111_017 IHKA_VA02
CAFD_000016BF_001_008_051 LHM2
CAFD_000011B3_001_002_011 ZBE05TC
CAFD_000010BA_001_008_051 LHM2
CAFD_000007C3_015_001_000 GHAS01
CAFD_00001F61_001_011_003 ATM
CAFD_00001A2F_000_002_009 EPS
CAFD_00000FA2_002_001_001 AMP_TOPHB
CAFD_00000A08_003_012_000 FZD_07
CAFD_00000A07_002_018_000 FZD_07
CAFD_000000B5_012_004_029 CFAS_PLX_1
CAFD_000000AE_005_010_012 FLA_02

Did you save an svt file from the zcp car?

[Guleb]

Yes. Which info do you need?

[trey100]

Best would be to get a non-ZCP 4/2016 or later build to compare. Perhaps some of these items are already baked into all cars post April.

[ferrarif1]

Originally Posted by trey100

Best would be to get a non-ZCP 4/2016 or later build to compare. Perhaps some of these items are already baked into all cars post April.

Ideally compare both ZCP and non-ZCP cars at the same integration level, I suspect that the comparison done above by Guleb was of a ZCP car at 58.x (16-03-50x) and the non-ZCP at an integration level of 57.x (15-11-50x). My non-ZCP car that has been flashed to 58.3 (16-03-504) uses the same DME CAFD as the ZCP example above.

I am expecting the SWFL config to be different on the ZCP when compared to the non-ZCP.

[ferrarif1]

To add more color to the conversation, attached is the DME config on my non-zcp car. This is the one module that ISTA/P really does not like when you change the VO to include 7MA:

[ferrarif1]

Thanks to information from Guleb , below is the difference between a non-ZCP and ZCP DME. Blue is the non-ZCP SWFL and Red is the ZCP SWFL replacement.

[Guleb]

So what does that mean? Could we just replace the files?

[ferrarif1]

Originally Posted by Guleb

So what does that mean? Could we just replace the files?

In theory, yes, the new configuration can be flashed to the DME but this does not mean that a drivetrain malfunction will not be triggered by some other mismatched configuration. The net is that we know what is different from a configuration perspective in a ZCP car but how to get a non-ZCP car to accept the retrofit needs to be solved.

[terahertz]

Originally Posted by ferrarif1

Thanks to information from Guleb , below is the difference between a non-ZCP and ZCP DME. Blue is the non-ZCP SWFL and Red is the ZCP SWFL replacement.

This looks exactly like this where only the SWFL is flashed.
https://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/at...5&d=1400255098

Who wants to try it?!

[ferrarif1]

I would definitely not recommend making this change yet as you will successfully code the DME but will have a drivetrain malfunction and the car will be limited to about 200HP.

Previous comment about dependent modules has been removed as this was a result of e-sys acting funny and these modules do seem to share common CAFD files between ZCP and non-ZCP cars.

[terahertz]

Originally Posted by ferrarif1

I would definitely not recommend making this change yet as you will successfully code the DME but will have a drivetrain malfunction and the car will be limited to about 200HP.

In addition to the DME, you need to change to a new CAFD for TBX, EKPM, EPS, TRSVC, HC, KOMBI, ACSM and VDC. It's very difficult to get everything playing nice together even if you have the right hardware in your car.

I think most, if not all, of the other modules are not affected by what the DME is doing. Those changes can be applied in isolation most likely. On my E90 M3 I coded the EDC module as comp pack, and I'm assuming that's the same deal here with the VDC module. The EDC/VDC module doesn't talk to the DME.

You are right that there could be some other configuration that needs to be done, such as build date modification since the ZCP didn't exist before march.

This document shows and links to a method to determine dependencies. I'd say that's a good start to determine what modules actually care what the DME is doing, and we could probably find out with Rheingold what other modules it actually talks to.

http://www.bmwesys.com/guides/E-Sys%...CU%20Guide.pdf

[momo3605]

So does all this mean that 19hp power bump, and overrun burble can theoretically be enabled by coding the DME?

[AWE46M3]

Originally Posted by momo3605

So does all this mean that 19hp power bump, and overrun burble can theoretically be enabled by coding the DME?

Hmmm...id like to know as well...

[ferrarif1]

Originally Posted by momo3605

So does all this mean that 19hp power bump, and overrun burble can theoretically be enabled by coding the DME?

Theoretically, yes.

[mc3456]

Following this thread, I now understand the increasing demand for much simpler cars like air-cooled 911s!

[dinonz]

Quoted from the "Traction Issues" thread in the general section:

Originally Posted by MB London

this has been an interesting thread, I have suffered really badly with traction issues, to the point where I was considering moving the car on.

However, I picked up on a thread on a different BMW forum over here in the uk and it transpires that a recent firmware upgrade released by BMW address this issues plus many more. I have a June 15' car and the software is the original codes, the updated version put the competition pack software on the vehicle. Apparently the traction issue is a million times better and it even improves the exhaust note.

have a read here http://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/showthread.php?t=151683

I will let you know once mine is done

Perhaps all your prayers are being answered by BMW?

[bwong6736]

this is very intriguing