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      09-24-2013, 06:33 PM   #89
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The weight reduction is an interesting factor because further down the line (Not tomorrow) there could be additional models under the GTS or CSL designation which are certainly under discussion because of the advancement of CFRP.
So as always this journey will be...interesting.

But there must be the establishment period first and foremost.
But what you can take from this is that for the competition , adding a CFRP roof like the M3 E92 adds extra cost, look at the M4 and M3? They have completely re-written the rules here in terms of advancement of lightweight technology.

A new era has begun under BMWi and today so it begins for BMW M.
In 2015 it begins for BMW. Which shows how exciting the future will be for all BMW brands.

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This is rather surprising, given the patent filings by BMW for 7/8 speed transmission gating methods and the 991 and C7 both going to 7 speed manuals.
I know, I expected the 7 speed manual from the patents.
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      09-24-2013, 06:33 PM   #91
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Absolutely no public shaming is deserved. Once you add fluids, driver etc you are at 35xx. That's about 200lbs lighter than the e90 and the same weight as the 335i. Even the most pessimistic people on the board expected that. BMW stated it would be light than the 435i and it looks like it will be by a few pounds.
add in two passengers and their luggage and you will be at 3800!

holy Apples and Oranges batman! you sir, *should* feel shame...
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      09-24-2013, 06:33 PM   #93
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One other thought in all this. Any hints on pricing? A lot of what could be very expensive tech in here.
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From here on out I am saving for this. This looks like it can take on the E30 M3 for the best M3 ever
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      09-24-2013, 06:34 PM   #95
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Ok this makes sense.



Per BMW US website: E92 M3 unladen weight 3704.

So the M4 should come in at about 3,500 lbs on the US site.


I see what they did to get the 3,300 figure. Many owners have weighed their E92's at about 3,500 lbs. So if it has reduced by 80 kg or 196 lbs, then 3,300 lbs makes sense.
80kg is 176lbs so the weight on the us site should be 3528. I think thas right in line with conservative expectations
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      09-24-2013, 06:35 PM   #98
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One other thought in all this. Any hints on pricing? A lot of what could be very expensive tech in here.
From my conversations at Pebble Beach during the unveiling of the M4 Concept, BMW is trying its best to hold pricing close to the outgoing M3, albeit with adjustments made to reflect additional standard equipment that the F80 M3 and F82 M4 will come with.
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      09-24-2013, 06:37 PM   #99
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Is this dry weight? Anyone know?
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Where are all the people who swore it would never get down to anywhere near 3,300? Time for your public shaming.
Unladen weight will come in ~3,500 lbs, using numbers in press release.

Looks like the majority of everyone's guesses where spot on.

BMW site listed E92 unladen at 3,704 lbs, owners routinely weighed their cars around 3,500 lbs.

Looks like they dropped about ~100 lbs off the 435i unladen 3,610 lbs. Sounds just about right when you add up the weight savings from carbon parts.
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      09-24-2013, 06:38 PM   #102
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From my conversations at Pebble Beach during the unveiling of the M4 Concept, BMW is trying its best to hold pricing close to the outgoing M3, albeit with adjustments made to reflect additional standard equipment that the F80 M3 and F82 M4 will come with.
Jason just six words for you, " thanks a lot for your coverage "
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80kg is 176lbs so the weight on the us site should be 3528. I think thas right in line with conservative expectations
Yup, thanks for the correction.
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      09-24-2013, 06:40 PM   #105
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Jason just six words for you, " thanks a lot for your coverage "
Our pleasure

Happy to see all the excitement and happy reactions.

Can't wait until our members start sharing their delivery experiences next Spring-Summer.
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      09-24-2013, 06:42 PM   #106
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Standard manual bad move, what sort of piss take will the DCT be priced at then?
i just heard someone say std manual = bad move?

if cost of dct too much, you have 2 options. find out how you can use left foot, or buy mb who only offer auto.
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      09-24-2013, 06:44 PM   #108
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I'll be patient and wait for a big pay raise or for the M3's to start turning up as CPO's. In time...

This is going to be a tuners dream (by comparison) to the e90/e92. Turbo cars offer lots of developing and testing... Surely the intercooler, exhaust and tunes will be at the top of the list.

And call me crazy but the body roll and responsiveness from that video... I don't think a suspension upgrade will be half as necessary as before!
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      09-24-2013, 06:44 PM   #109
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the turbos look gnarly and the car looks BEAST MODE. I just hope that those aren't the production guages. meh. and exhaust as always meh. AKRA!
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The 369lb-ft of torque is the same rating as the overboost rating of the 1M engine.

Is this some kind of mechanical limitation somewhere? It is too... coincidental.
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