Low Dust Brake Pad Options

nioh_lbbm2 · 10-05-2020, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by therealkenc

Are you guys using the existing steel rotors when switching out to the Akebonos or do you have to switch to new rotors too?

If it's the latter, where are you getting them from?

that answer would largely depend on the mileage and condition of your current rotors and the type of track abuse it has gotten, if any.

therealkenc · 10-05-2020, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by nioh_lbbm2

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Originally Posted by therealkenc

Are you guys using the existing steel rotors when switching out to the Akebonos or do you have to switch to new rotors too?

If it's the latter, where are you getting them from?

that answer would largely depend on the mileage and condition of your current rotors and the type of track abuse it has gotten, if any.

Thanks - mine are stock steel rotors at 38k miles, never been tracked, but I don't have access to the current physical condition of the rotors. Assuming no cracks/warping, would I be able to reuse them?

nioh_lbbm2 · 10-05-2020, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by therealkenc

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Originally Posted by nioh_lbbm2

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Originally Posted by therealkenc

Are you guys using the existing steel rotors when switching out to the Akebonos or do you have to switch to new rotors too?

If it's the latter, where are you getting them from?

that answer would largely depend on the mileage and condition of your current rotors and the type of track abuse it has gotten, if any.

Thanks - mine are stock steel rotors at 38k miles, never been tracked, but I don't have access to the current physical condition of the rotors. Assuming no cracks/warping, would I be able to reuse them?

38k is up there where you'd want to measure your rotor thickness with some calipers and make sure they're nor near the minimum thickness which is 34.4mm for the front

Just to be safe you should check that to see if it's worth replacing your rotors too.

therealkenc · 10-05-2020, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by nioh_lbbm2

38k is up there where you'd want to measure your rotor thickness with some calipers and make sure they're nor near the minimum thickness which is 34.4mm for the front

Just to be safe you should check that to see if it's worth replacing your rotors too.

Many thanks

x.shell · 10-05-2020, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by therealkenc

Are you guys using the existing steel rotors when switching out to the Akebonos or do you have to switch to new rotors too?

If it's the latter, where are you getting them from?

Same rotors. There is no special treatment with these brake pads. Swap em like you would any other pads.

If you need to replace rotors, it's because you need to replace them regardless of pads.

hellokitty · 10-11-2020, 01:32 AM

Update on the Akebonos: these pads kick ass. Good linear stopping power and after three weeks, my black wheels are still clean. It's amazing.

I'm going to swap all my cars out for Akebonos going forward.

swagon · 10-11-2020, 04:18 AM

I swear on me mum that Ferodo DS1.11 create less brake dust than OEM pads. Not that I care about brake dust, but thought I'd share my observation.

MFNATIK · 10-11-2020, 04:18 PM

Just put on Akebonos and will have to concur with everyone that these are excellent pads! Followed the directs to grease the abutment points and piston faces and not a peep of squeal from them. Very low dusting. I think most of the dusting is from the iron rust that forms on the rotors after a wash (its orange dust). Otherwise, yes, the initial bite is less, I would say 50% less grabby on initial pedal push, but that's actually a good thing. Usually it grabbed a bit too much especially if you're doing a slow roll. I also did ECS SS lines and changed to Motul RBF600 at the same time. Pedal feels great (if not the same as stock) so there is that haha. Overall stopping power is the same IMO.

therealkenc · 10-15-2020, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by nioh_lbbm2

38k is up there where you'd want to measure your rotor thickness with some calipers and make sure they're nor near the minimum thickness which is 34.4mm for the front

Just to be safe you should check that to see if it's worth replacing your rotors too.

Update:

The minimum rotor thickness is as follows:

Front: 28.4mm (not 34.4?)
Rear: 22.4mm

I'm at 28.9 for the front and 23mm for the rear.

Sounds like I'm gonna need to get new rotors. Should I use new OEM rotors with the Akebonos or would you guys recommend anything else? This car will not be tracked, it's a pure (fast) street driving car.

TopJimmy · 10-15-2020, 10:03 PM

It takes a long time to wear a half mil if only basic or spirited daily driving. Stock rotor pair for $508 at getbmwparts is a good price.

therealkenc · 10-16-2020, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TopJimmy

It takes a long time to wear a half mil if only basic or spirited daily driving. Stock rotor pair for $508 at getbmwparts is a good price.

How long/how many miles do you think will 1/2 mm likely last me before I need to change the rotors?

nioh_lbbm2 · 10-16-2020, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by therealkenc

Quote:

Originally Posted by nioh_lbbm2

38k is up there where you'd want to measure your rotor thickness with some calipers and make sure they're nor near the minimum thickness which is 34.4mm for the front

Just to be safe you should check that to see if it's worth replacing your rotors too.

Update:

The minimum rotor thickness is as follows:

Front: 28.4mm (not 34.4?)
Rear: 22.4mm

I'm at 28.9 for the front and 23mm for the rear.

Sounds like I'm gonna need to get new rotors. Should I use new OEM rotors with the Akebonos or would you guys recommend anything else? This car will not be tracked, it's a pure (fast) street driving car.

Hmm I found the 34.4 number from the TIS documents. Now I'm not sure anymore lol

horsepower_and_hounds · 10-16-2020, 08:23 AM

Powerstop carbon/ceramic compound....

TopJimmy · 10-17-2020, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by therealkenc

Quote:

Originally Posted by TopJimmy

It takes a long time to wear a half mil if only basic or spirited daily driving. Stock rotor pair for $508 at getbmwparts is a good price.

How long/how many miles do you think will 1/2 mm likely last me before I need to change the rotors?

My stock steel rotors have worn 0.4mm over 7K miles (fronts) from June through September. Rear rotors have not worn any more. Pads went from 9mm front and rear to 7mm front and 8mm rear.

therealkenc · 10-19-2020, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by horsepower_and_hounds

Powerstop carbon/ceramic compound....

Thanks for the rec! Seems like the Powerstops and the Akebonos are the most popular, with the Akebonos being the quietest ones around.

gprzybylski · 10-29-2020, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TopJimmy

It takes a long time to wear a half mil if only basic or spirited daily driving. Stock rotor pair for $508 at getbmwparts is a good price.

You have that link? Cause I only see them sold separate.

TopJimmy · 10-29-2020, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by gprzybylski

Quote:

Originally Posted by TopJimmy

It takes a long time to wear a half mil if only basic or spirited daily driving. Stock rotor pair for $508 at getbmwparts is a good price.

You have that link? Cause I only see them sold separate.

Looks separate now, but also cheaper. $496.78 for both fronts shipped.

https://www.faulknerbmwpartssource.c...or-34112284809

https://www.faulknerbmwpartssource.c...or-34112284810

AND1_M3 · 01-09-2021, 04:48 PM

Anyone have a link for the Akebonos ?

MFNATIK · 01-09-2021, 04:53 PM

Akebonos have been working very well. Dusting is low yet bite and braking feels almost like OE pads. Win/Win!

hellokitty · 01-09-2021, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by AND1

Anyone have a link for the Akebonos ?

Search on FCP Euro

Gertsee · 01-09-2021, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AND1

Anyone have a link for the Akebonos ?

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw...CABEgKS2fD_BwE

^ (FRONT)

REAR

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw...kebono-eur1656

FCPEURO also does lifetime replacements on all their products

AND1_M3 · 01-09-2021, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Gertsee

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw...CABEgKS2fD_BwE

^ (FRONT)

REAR

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw...kebono-eur1656

FCPEURO also does lifetime replacements on all their products

Are pads included in that??

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