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      07-10-2017, 07:23 PM   #1
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Pull to the right, SIB 32 01 17

BMW has finally come out with a service bulletin for the pull to the right issue. Bring your car in and have them reference 32 01 17, it has a retrofit to program on the EPS. The dealer should have the software loaded this week as it was released Friday night. After please post if it fixed the issue. I still need to put more miles on to see what I think.
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      07-12-2017, 08:18 PM   #2
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Do they update the whole car at the same time? Or just the EPS module?
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      07-12-2017, 08:22 PM   #3
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My entire car is getting flashed to the latest program. Will it include this SIB?
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      07-12-2017, 10:04 PM   #4
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The whole car will be updated, but you do have to complain of the pull and reference the SIB. The fix will only be done if the tech selects the "steering assistance" coding retrofit while programming the car. Normal programming will not activate the fix.
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      07-14-2017, 11:59 AM   #5
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BMW has finally come out with a service bulletin for the pull to the right issue. Bring your car in and have them reference 32 01 17, it has a retrofit to program on the EPS. The dealer should have the software loaded this week as it was released Friday night. After please post if it fixed the issue. I still need to put more miles on to see what I think.
Do you have a copy of your invoice?
Or does anyone have access to bmwtis.com and could post a screenshot of exactly what is involved with SI B 32 01 17?
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Just got this info, it's all part of the SIB:
First do alignment, swap wheels, etc. then
"Program and encode the vehicle to integration level F020-17-500 available in ISTA/P 3.62.0 or later (available mid-July 2017).
Retrofit with Pull Drift Compensation (PDC) function via Coverstion-Active Steering Assistance Retrofitting."
They have a bloody acronym for the fix!!
Years of dealing with this pull, multiple alignments and tweaks. Years of bmw saying "it's a safety issue so you don't go in wrong lane" "it's just following the crown" "we'll add positive camber to the driver's side". All BS! They should have said there's a problem and we are working on a fix. Then, this should be a recall/warranty update for ALL cars made before 2017.
Super lame and frustrating BMW. :
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      07-14-2017, 03:19 PM   #7
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Got mine yesterday and I can't really tell the difference except all my codings got deleted.
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      07-14-2017, 08:58 PM   #8
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Got mine yesterday and I can't really tell the difference except all my codings got deleted.
Did your car pull to the right before? And after the update it still pulls?? This would be very disappointing....
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      07-15-2017, 12:01 AM   #9
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I would like to say adding positive camber might be a solution for people who is straggling for this pulling issue...I feel my car drives well, and tracks straight after they made the left camber to from -1.3 to -1.1.....and so far i don't see any excessive tire wear
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      07-16-2017, 09:45 AM   #10
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This is what my SA sent me for the problem:

SITUATION
Vehicle is reportedly pulling to one side (when no braking is being attempted).
CAUSE
The design concept of M vehicles is to provide maximum feedback from the driving surface and, in combination with the tires, may present vehicle pull to one side following the road camber.
CORRECTION
Verify all the parameters of the steering and suspension components on the front axle.
PROCEDURE
For conditions that are similar to the situation described:
1. Carry out a test drive with the customer to replicate the issue.

2. Note all pertinent wheel/tire data.

3. Verify tires are inflated as per specifications on the B-pillar tire data label.

4. Check the tire tread for damage and repair as needed.

5. Inspect the front axle components of the chassis and suspension including wishbone, tension struts and track rod, repairing any abnormalities discovered.

6. Take vehicle measurements using the Kinematics Diagnosis System (KDS). Restore all as close to setpoint values as possible

7. Test drive vehicle.

Have the driving characteristics been improved?
YES- return vehicle to customer.
NO go to next step.
8. Exchange the left and right front wheels.

9. Test drive vehicle.

Have the driving characteristics been improved?
YES- return vehicle to customer.
NO go to next step.
10. Exchange wheels back to their original locations.

11. Check production date of vehicle.

Was vehicle produced prior to July 1, 2017?
YES- Go to next step.
NO Go to Step 13
12. Program and encode the vehicle to integration level F020-17-07-500 available in ISTA/P 3.62.0 or later (available mid-July 2107).

13. Retrofit with Pull Drift Compensation (PDC) function via Conversion-Activate Steering Assistance Retrofitting.


He basically said that if the shop foreman doesn't feel there's enough of a pull, then they won't follow this procedure. Not sure it's worth my time since the foreman originally said the car drove fine...
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      07-18-2017, 09:52 PM   #11
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Did your car pull to the right before? And after the update it still pulls?? This would be very disappointing....
Sorry didn't response sooner. I never notice my car pulls to the right that is why I said it didn't make any difference. I have them installed my MP HAS kit two weeks prior and after the update and riding for couple days, my car seems to ride better than stock and steering wheels feels like a lot tighter. Maybe because of my car slightly lowered or the update. here is the copy of the invoice.
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File Type: pdf EPS.pdf (1.68 MB, 243 views)
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      07-19-2017, 07:27 PM   #12
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Yeah uh.. I'm going to pass on the SIB.. good excuse to get the latest I-LEVEL flashed though..

http://wardsauto.com/news-analysis/f...ift-technology

http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...8&postcount=20

I rather not have any electronic gimmicks dampening the steering, however could be interesting to wait for this firmware file to trickle down to the interwebs, so we can flash the EPS ourselves with the retrofit option or without.
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      07-21-2017, 12:26 AM   #13
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I got the firmware updated according to the SIB referenced. The car still tracks straight, but I really don't feel any changes to the steering wheel, especially the tightness that some forum members felt after the update....I am still missing the tight, crispy hydraulic steering feel. The result just feels like they did not do the eps retrofit

I also got the alignment checked, the wired thing is even with the positive camber swivel bearing on, my front two cambers are even now (both at -1.5 after lowering, but I think the previous alignment just after installing the lowering springs showed the front cambers were -1.1 left -1.4 right. But the shop foreman said they did not take the positive camber part off....).
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Originally Posted by AustinTrkJunkie View Post
This is what my SA sent me for the problem:

SITUATION
Vehicle is reportedly pulling to one side (when no braking is being attempted).
CAUSE
The design concept of M vehicles is to provide maximum feedback from the driving surface and, in combination with the tires, may present vehicle pull to one side following the road camber.
CORRECTION
Verify all the parameters of the steering and suspension components on the front axle.
PROCEDURE
For conditions that are similar to the situation described:
1. Carry out a test drive with the customer to replicate the issue.

2. Note all pertinent wheel/tire data.

3. Verify tires are inflated as per specifications on the B-pillar tire data label.

4. Check the tire tread for damage and repair as needed.

5. Inspect the front axle components of the chassis and suspension including wishbone, tension struts and track rod, repairing any abnormalities discovered.

6. Take vehicle measurements using the Kinematics Diagnosis System (KDS). Restore all as close to setpoint values as possible

7. Test drive vehicle.

Have the driving characteristics been improved?
YES- return vehicle to customer.
NO – go to next step.
8. Exchange the left and right front wheels.

9. Test drive vehicle.

Have the driving characteristics been improved?
YES- return vehicle to customer.
NO – go to next step.
10. Exchange wheels back to their original locations.

11. Check production date of vehicle.

Was vehicle produced prior to July 1, 2017?
YES- Go to next step.
NO – Go to Step 13
12. Program and encode the vehicle to integration level F020-17-07-500 available in ISTA/P 3.62.0 or later (available mid-July 2107).

13. Retrofit with Pull Drift Compensation (PDC) function via Conversion-Activate Steering Assistance Retrofitting.


He basically said that if the shop foreman doesn't feel there's enough of a pull, then they won't follow this procedure. Not sure it's worth my time since the foreman originally said the car drove fine...
Quote:
Originally Posted by AustinTrkJunkie View Post
This is what my SA sent me for the problem:

SITUATION
Vehicle is reportedly pulling to one side (when no braking is being attempted).
CAUSE
The design concept of M vehicles is to provide maximum feedback from the driving surface and, in combination with the tires, may present vehicle pull to one side following the road camber.
CORRECTION
Verify all the parameters of the steering and suspension components on the front axle.
PROCEDURE
For conditions that are similar to the situation described:
1. Carry out a test drive with the customer to replicate the issue.

2. Note all pertinent wheel/tire data.

3. Verify tires are inflated as per specifications on the B-pillar tire data label.

4. Check the tire tread for damage and repair as needed.

5. Inspect the front axle components of the chassis and suspension including wishbone, tension struts and track rod, repairing any abnormalities discovered.

6. Take vehicle measurements using the Kinematics Diagnosis System (KDS). Restore all as close to setpoint values as possible

7. Test drive vehicle.

Have the driving characteristics been improved?
YES- return vehicle to customer.
NO – go to next step.
8. Exchange the left and right front wheels.

9. Test drive vehicle.

Have the driving characteristics been improved?
YES- return vehicle to customer.
NO – go to next step.
10. Exchange wheels back to their original locations.

11. Check production date of vehicle.

Was vehicle produced prior to July 1, 2017?
YES- Go to next step.
NO – Go to Step 13
12. Program and encode the vehicle to integration level F020-17-07-500 available in ISTA/P 3.62.0 or later (available mid-July 2107).

13. Retrofit with Pull Drift Compensation (PDC) function via Conversion-Activate Steering Assistance Retrofitting.


He basically said that if the shop foreman doesn't feel there's enough of a pull, then they won't follow this procedure. Not sure it's worth my time since the foreman originally said the car drove fine...
Thanks for the info on sib 32 01 17. The dealership wanted to charge me for the alignment and I told them that since the SIB calls for the patch to be applied at the end they have to honor the alignment for free because it is technically not an alignment issue.
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How a tune effects the SIB fix

I currently have a BM3 tuned m3.

Do you guys know if the bm3 tune would "undo" the SIB fix if I flashed a different tune on there?

I hope not, but thought I would ask!

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man I had this issue, kept pulling to the right at first it was my tires, 1 tire was bulging had them replace the front tires and align the car, still pulled to the right, aligned it again, i think it was alittle better but still pulled to the right. found this forum and had the dealer update the software to reference the sib and it drives straight now. The weird thing is I've had my car for almost 4 years, did it just develop this sympton on its own? I don't remember having this issue ever, not until the tire got fucked.

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bump - could any CS owner maybe scan or take a pic of their paperwork? My dealer is stating my car is incompatible with the update/TSB like many others are saying and they are refusing to do it.

Thank you!
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I currently have a BM3 tuned m3.

Do you guys know if the bm3 tune would "undo" the SIB fix if I flashed a different tune on there?

I hope not, but thought I would ask!

Thanks
Bring up this thread again. I am curious if anyone has an answer to this question.

Thanks.
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