European Auto Source (EAS)
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   BMW M3 and BMW M4 Forum > BMW F80 M3 / F82 M4 Forum > F80 M3 / M4 Pricing, Ordering, European Delivery

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      09-13-2019, 01:19 AM   #1
kingkreep
New Member
2
Rep
14
Posts

Drives: gokart
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: United States

iTrader: (0)

Cool 2017 F82 9K miles vs. 2018 F82 15K miles

Hey all -

I've been waiting a long time for this, and my wait might finally be over. I have wanted an M4 ever since the F82 first came out back in 2014, but wanted to wait till I felt like I did enough to earn one. Well - I think I'm there now

I am looking at two used M4s very closely and would love some advice from this awesome group of folks on picking one.

Car #1: 2017 F82 with 9K miles for $55K
  • 2 owners
  • 14 months / 41k remaining on warranty
  • M performance exhaust
  • Aftermarket Rohana wheels 265/R20/30 and 305/R20/30
  • Competition, lighting, executive packages
  • Reputed dealer but non-BMW

Car #2: 2018 F82 with 15K miles for $60K
  • Single owner
  • 26 months / 35k remaining on warranty
  • All stock - no mods
  • Competition and executive pacakges
  • BMW dealer from whom car was bought originally

While the M-performance exhaust sounds appealing, I am concerned about the non-stock rims and the oddly low mileage on the #1. Both cars have well appointed interiors and have the DCT and CF roofs. This car will be used for "spirited" daily driving and will rarely be tracked, if at all.

Is the 2018 substantially different from the 2017?
And does car #2 warrant the premium in your view? Newer car and ostensibly cleaner, but more miles.

Thanks again for your opinions - look forward to joining the club soon!
Appreciate 1
NickyC5367.00

      09-13-2019, 08:52 PM   #2
kingkreep
New Member
2
Rep
14
Posts

Drives: gokart
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: United States

iTrader: (0)

no takers? Did I do something wrong?
Appreciate 0
      09-13-2019, 10:19 PM   #3
Tuscan
Second Lieutenant
68
Rep
247
Posts

Drives: Public Transportation
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: FL

iTrader: (0)

I would choose the second car if I were you.
1 owner
Longer factory warranty
Updated navigation system
Also the rohana wheels sound horrible.

This subforum is very slow lately, you haven't done anything wrong.
You can do better than 60k. It's a buyers market for the F82 now.
__________________
.
Appreciate 0
      09-13-2019, 10:43 PM   #4
rebornkhj
Enlisted Member
42
Rep
40
Posts

Drives: 17 M4
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Texas

iTrader: (0)

2017 Carbon fiber driveshaft
2018 some are carbon fiber driveshaft and some are not.
I like carbon fiber.
Appreciate 0
      09-15-2019, 01:04 AM   #5
kingkreep
New Member
2
Rep
14
Posts

Drives: gokart
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: United States

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuscan View Post
I would choose the second car if I were you.
1 owner
Longer factory warranty
Updated navigation system
Also the rohana wheels sound horrible.

This subforum is very slow lately, you haven't done anything wrong.
You can do better than 60k. It's a buyers market for the F82 now.
All great advice - thank you. I will be getting back to the dealer for car #1 with a polite "no thank you".

Also, I just test drove my first M4 with the competition package and it feels like a completely different car vs. the "stock" M4. The competition pack is a must-have!!!
Appreciate 0
      09-22-2019, 09:55 AM   #6
Encanto
Major
Encanto's Avatar
453
Rep
1,202
Posts

Drives: 2018 M3
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Florida

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by kingkreep View Post
no takers? Did I do something wrong?
You did something wrong... not selecting the MY2018 in the first place.
Appreciate 0
      09-22-2019, 11:28 AM   #7
NickyC
Major General
NickyC's Avatar
5367
Rep
5,748
Posts

Drives: YMB M4, has a roof though. :(
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Somewhere I don't want to be

iTrader: (17)

I'm glad you're finally able to get the car you've always wanted, you won't be disappointed with either!
Appreciate 0
      09-23-2019, 11:22 AM   #8
PhatLyfe
First Lieutenant
PhatLyfe's Avatar
78
Rep
335
Posts

Drives: 2015 Toyota Prius
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Jersey

iTrader: (0)

both are nice cars, i go with a 2018..
Appreciate 0
      09-23-2019, 07:05 PM   #9
kingkreep
New Member
2
Rep
14
Posts

Drives: gokart
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: United States

iTrader: (0)

Thanks for the input everyone. Quick update from my side.

The dealer for car #2 is being a little hard nosed -
  • Won't drop the price more than $500
  • Won't accept personal financing although this is from a nationwide bank. I have to either finance with them at a higher rate and then refi or bring cash
And most of all, the sales manager acted like he was doing me a favor by selling me the car.

The other option I am looking at now is a similar 2018 MY with <10K miles:
  • Single owner
  • 31 months / 40K miles remaining on warranty
  • No mods
  • CPO, but has had an accident reported on Carfax
  • No mods
  • Competition and Executive packages included

Given the salty attitude of the sales manager, I really don't want to give them my money.

What are your thoughts on the CPO lower mileage vehicle, but that has had an accident reported? The accident and damage couldn't have been that bad if BMW is choosing to Certify right? Or am I just better off steering well clear of this and waiting given we seem to be in a buyer's market? Or should I just suck up my pride and go with the douche sales guy?
Appreciate 0
      09-24-2019, 09:20 AM   #10
SMGCFP
First Lieutenant
SMGCFP's Avatar
United_States
302
Rep
365
Posts

Drives: '20 F82 M4
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cohoes, NY

iTrader: (0)

Wait what? They won't take a check for the car? Personal financing should involve the bank you financed through simply giving you a check made payable to the dealer for the car. The same as if you withdrew funds from your own account at the same bank.

I get that they want you to use their financing, but refusing to sell you the car because of it? New one for me.

I think you tell the douche dealer what you're willing to do, and if they don't want the deal you move on. There are a ton of these cars out there.

Don't buy a car that's got a carfax report unless you plan on driving it until it's used up. It will hurt resale. Or if you can save $$$ upfront on it and can definitively determine the frame was never affected.
Appreciate 0
      09-24-2019, 09:49 AM   #11
kingkreep
New Member
2
Rep
14
Posts

Drives: gokart
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: United States

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by SMGCFP View Post
Wait what? They won't take a check for the car? Personal financing should involve the bank you financed through simply giving you a check made payable to the dealer for the car. The same as if you withdrew funds from your own account at the same bank.
Thanks SMGCFP. This is something I should check with my bank. They gave me an approval code for the loan that I could then take to the dealership and process the paper work there. I can ask whether they can cut me a check in the dealer's name instead. But I would assume that the bank would need *something* - a PO, etc. before they can cut the check. Will call the bank today.

Quote:
Or if you can save $$$ upfront on it and can definitively determine the frame was never affected.
The car with the report on it is a little cheaper, but when I factor in flight and shipping, it more or less evens out. What is the best way to determine if the frame was affected? Could I ask the dealership for some report to the same? Or does the CPO report include that information?


Awesome intel as usual - thanks folks

Last edited by kingkreep; 09-24-2019 at 09:55 AM..
Appreciate 0
      09-25-2019, 07:32 AM   #12
SMGCFP
First Lieutenant
SMGCFP's Avatar
United_States
302
Rep
365
Posts

Drives: '20 F82 M4
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cohoes, NY

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by kingkreep View Post
Thanks SMGCFP. This is something I should check with my bank. They gave me an approval code for the loan that I could then take to the dealership and process the paper work there. I can ask whether they can cut me a check in the dealer's name instead. But I would assume that the bank would need *something* - a PO, etc. before they can cut the check. Will call the bank today.



The car with the report on it is a little cheaper, but when I factor in flight and shipping, it more or less evens out. What is the best way to determine if the frame was affected? Could I ask the dealership for some report to the same? Or does the CPO report include that information?




Awesome intel as usual - thanks folks
The bank will give you the check with the PO. At least most will. As far as the frame situation, it would need to be looked at by an expert. It seems as if the car is not local to you. I wouldn't buy it sight unseen. I'd want an independent person to look at the car.

There are a lot of these cars out there if you're patient.
Appreciate 0
      09-25-2019, 07:39 PM   #13
kingkreep
New Member
2
Rep
14
Posts

Drives: gokart
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: United States

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by SMGCFP View Post
It seems as if the car is not local to you. I wouldn't buy it sight unseen. I'd want an independent person to look at the car.
Indeed! I am out of state and will be definitely viewing the car in person before doing the deal. What is the best resource for finding shops that do a PPI (pre-purchase inspection) in a certain Geo?
Appreciate 0
      09-26-2019, 09:03 AM   #14
SMGCFP
First Lieutenant
SMGCFP's Avatar
United_States
302
Rep
365
Posts

Drives: '20 F82 M4
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cohoes, NY

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by kingkreep View Post
Indeed! I am out of state and will be definitely viewing the car in person before doing the deal. What is the best resource for finding shops that do a PPI (pre-purchase inspection) in a certain Geo?
I don't know. I'd use a trusted mechanic I know if I were doing it personally. Maybe others will have an idea here.
Appreciate 0
      09-30-2019, 12:14 AM   #15
kingkreep
New Member
2
Rep
14
Posts

Drives: gokart
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: United States

iTrader: (0)

Update - got the seller to take the car to an independent mechanic for a PPI and got the shop to send me the report directly.

Car looks mostly good, but the Autologic scan threw up a bunch of fault codes Since the car is still under factory warranty should I just get the seller to get it fixed by an authorized BMW dealership? Or should I just walk? I really do like the build for this one though...
Appreciate 0
      09-30-2019, 10:20 AM   #16
qba335i
Second Lieutenant
229
Rep
296
Posts

Drives: 335i
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Chicago

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by kingkreep View Post
Update - got the seller to take the car to an independent mechanic for a PPI and got the shop to send me the report directly.

Car looks mostly good, but the Autologic scan threw up a bunch of fault codes Since the car is still under factory warranty should I just get the seller to get it fixed by an authorized BMW dealership? Or should I just walk? I really do like the build for this one though...
You can ask the seller to take it the BMW dealer and send you a full report/invoice once fixed...
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
advice needed, m virgin, used m4

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:32 PM.




f80post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST