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      06-24-2016, 06:08 PM   #1
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Tractive Plug&Play suspension installed (with EDC)

Hello, I just installed a Tractive Plug&Play suspension that works with the EDC.
This are active dampers that work with EDC and adjust each individually every 0.006 sec.
No lowering in the lower position, so waiting the answer if the springs are right, now testing. The car feels more solid in all modes. Especially it feels in Comfort mode, much less body rolls and you can attack hard the bad road. The Sport+ mode I will test next week on the race track and will write more. Now still didn't find the end of the grip on 265/285 CUP2 tires, the cars places all the power to the ground.
UPDATE: This are variant 1 sprigs with no lowering, niw waiting for the variant 2 springs with 20-25 mm lowering on front. Rear is -5 mm lowered.
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That is interesting, 0.006s is crazy fast lol. I wish their website worked....

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I read more into this suspension. It has some incredible potential. Supposedly, it can out-perform the magnetorheological shock absorbers.... If true that is incredible. I am extremely interested in this suspension now.

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How much does it cost?
What is the warranty like?
Can I use my own springs?

P.S. I look forward to your track impressions.
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Interesting. Where are these made ?
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Interesting. Where are these made ?
Netherlands.
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I read more into this suspension. It has some incredible potential. Supposedly, it can out-perform the magnetorheological shock absorbers.... If true that is incredible. I am extremely interested in this suspension now.

Questions:
How much does it cost?
What is the warranty like?
Can I use my own springs?

P.S. I look forward to your track impressions.
It costs around 5500 euros, I got a discount like a first one here to install. Now there is also a discount, so we can talk about it in PM.
We got here in Moscow the authorised dealer.

Warranty I need to ask - 1 or 2 years. And what is MUCH better than Bilstein is that shock are rebuildable.

About springs I can not answer. I think that this sings are wrong because it should be -25mm front and -10mm rear.

And you are right, it has much more potential then everything in the market. Now I can say that it grips much better on the street with no body roll in Comfort mode. So I can use all the potential on the street. Now I need to check whether it is good on track.

My suspension manager who hase more than 20 years experience in all types of races says that it should be not less than 2 sec faster per lap than KW clubsport with camber plates. And he is not sure that this suspension needs the camber plates, so it is more all terrain suspension. More comfort and more grip on the streets and better on the track.
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I am curious how these can react so quickly when they are using the stock EDC system which is tuned for the stock EDC shocks. Absent a new controller I do not see any way that this suspension could be so reactive. It honestly sounds like marketing hype.
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I am curious how these can react so quickly when they are using the stock EDC system which is tuned for the stock EDC shocks. Absent a new controller I do not see any way that this suspension could be so reactive. It honestly sounds like marketing hype.
It does have a new controller. They are nice systems.
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It does have a new controller. They are nice systems.
Interesting. I assume it integrates with the car's existing EDC and DSC systems to compliment as well. If so then this is an impressive piece of kit!!
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Yeah these shocks appear superior to anything else on the market for our car.

Is the tractive website down for everyone, or just me?

Does anyone one know where to buy these from?

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Looks nice, can you drop the front any lower? Car has a 4X4 look going on in first picture.
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Yeah these shocks appear superior to anything else on the market for our car.

Is the tractive website down for everyone, or just me?

Does anyone one know where to buy these from?
There is no info on their site, I don't know why. I can ask my suspension manager how to contact and how to get it. He will be next week in thу city.
UPDATE: I talked with my manager and this company works with only authorizad dillers and racing teams. Plus this are wrong springs on front - variant 1 for the stock set up. Now waiting for the variant 2 springs with - 20-25 mm lowering on front. If you want to buy this product we can make it through my manager and then ship you. But is will cost money because I'm in Russia. By the way the kit is totally bolt on with no coding, no errors at all.

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Looks nice, can you drop the front any lower? Car has a 4X4 look going on in first picture.
Yes, it should drop, I think that this are wrong springs on the front. It shous be -20-25 mm on th front and -5-10 mm on the rear. So now I got only -5mm rear and stock size front, what I don't really like.
As it is a first production kit they the might do a mistake with a springs, but the car still feel very solid and at the same moment very Comfort. And the car feels different I can feel sometimes that differesnt shocks has different modes and the car grips grips and grips. tomorrow I will go to the race track to test it.
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jackkk, how did your track testing go?
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jackkk, how did your track testing go?
So 1 got 2 track sessions and on the first one I got a car spin and was waiting al he session for the sefaty car. Nothing bad with the car, but 1 session lost. I drove with DSC fully off as usual, but started to push too hard for the first one.
On the second session I drove with the instructor to avoid my mistakes.
So I can say that the car is totally stable and you can attack curbs on the apex very car with ni loss of grip - very nice!
The car feels very solid but I need new lower springs! I need lower center of gravity for the track)
As driving on publiс roads - the car feal fenomenal! I drive noe Comfort and the car grips on all the bad surfaces very very well, ypu feel it like more comfort, but less body roll. The suspension feels much more resilient (if it is the righ word to explain).
How Chris Harris says: "As more I drive it as more I like it!"

I can say also that my car is more useble right now. I don't care about the road I just drive hard everywhere. And when you got regular coil overs you usually drive hard on the track and drive very very careful on the public road - this is not about this susension.
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I had these on my BRZ. They were brought over by HVT, formally AST USA. These shocks are an amazing piece of engineering. Extremely happy to see them on an M4.

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Did at least 10 track sessions and the suspension works very nice! Can't wait to test new lower front springs!

All in all I use Comfort for a DD and Sport+ for the track, the Sport mode is useless or can be used for the track with bad surface like Nurburgring.
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It does have a new controller. They are nice systems.
Wait a second here.... Why would Dinan, a company that also makes suspension upgrades for this platform, endorse a competitor's product? Please let me beta test whatever you may or may not being working on with Tractive. I live in Dallas. It gets extremely hot here. You need to make sure whatever you're about to release can withstand the heat.
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It does have a new controller. They are nice systems.
Question - Would these play nice with the Dinan Coilovers (Adjustable Springs)?

Just got the Dinan Coilovers installed and while its been great so far with the stock EDC, would love to improve the EDC dampers in a meaningful way.

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Wait a second here.... Why would Dinan, a company that also makes suspension upgrades for this platform, endorse a competitor's product? Please let me beta test whatever you may or may not being working on with Tractive. I live in Dallas. It gets extremely hot here. You need to make sure whatever you're about to release can withstand the heat.
No need for test cars. Nothing to beta test. Had the systems on our shop M4 for a long time.

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Question - Would these play nice with the Dinan Coilovers (Adjustable Springs)?

Just got the Dinan Coilovers installed and while its been great so far with the stock EDC, would love to improve the EDC dampers in a meaningful way.

Thanks!
Yes they would work.
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Given the limited retail outlets for Tractive in the US, would you guys offer this set up? Perhaps as a supplement to the Dinan Coilover kit?


Yes they would work.[/QUOTE]
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Given the limited retail outlets for Tractive in the US, would you guys offer this set up? Perhaps as a supplement to the Dinan Coilover kit?


Yes they would work.
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