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In terms of handling, can't comment on that yet, my alignment is definitely off (nothing like some toe whine!). will report back after it's aligned and potentially corner balanced. |
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11-07-2019, 06:07 AM | #2400 | |
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I still can't believe how the car would not cut throttle over bumps and elevation changes. It almost feels like if someone is pushing the rear of the car down to keep a lot of weight on the ground - and my traction control was loving it. Never cut throttle except for wheel spin, which is normal. I'm not saying that the MP HAS won't behave this way per se, but I did instantly notice the car has more suspension travel vs. the Bilsteins, and the dampers don't push down with as much force. Time will tell if I regret my decision haha. |
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11-07-2019, 06:13 AM | #2401 |
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Also - a question for everyone on this kit:
I'm not sure if there were revisions to the design or not, but I noticed that my kit only came with one spanner wrench, and when I spoke to my installer, we both thought it was strange how this kit doesn't "lock" using 2 rings like most coil overs do. I understand how in the front it has that screw to lock it in place, but what about the rears? I didn't see any such screw, and I find it odd how the rears wouldn't eventually shift over time? Has this been answered somewhere before? I had a hard time searching for it. |
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11-07-2019, 06:22 AM | #2402 | ||
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Have you got any pictures of your now-lowered car with the 513M wheels? There are so few on the Internet.
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11-07-2019, 06:31 AM | #2403 | |
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Here's a link to when my car was on B16. 3.5 inches from bottom of the front lip to the ground. Looks so damn good: https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/at...1&d=1568396043 |
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11-07-2019, 07:56 AM | #2404 | |
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Warranty runs out next June so hoping to get rid of the wheel gap by then. Have to say I have been pretty satisfied with KW V3's on the 135i (30k mls) but on the M3, they go too low in the rear. V3-based AC Schnitzer RS coilovers have a more conservative drop with, apparently, custom valving. Think there's a guy with passive PSS10's on here.
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11-07-2019, 08:24 AM | #2405 | |
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If the full set of standalone B6 Damptronic shocks were available to me, I would have just gotten those shocks with lowering springs, most likely Eibach v2. Such a simple solution, but unattainable in the US. Height adjustable springs or coil overs are overkill for my purposes. But PSS10 had a lot of good reviews from what I've read. |
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11-07-2019, 10:35 AM | #2406 | |
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And yeah the 1 locking ring is weird. Looks like the KW HAS is the same way too. The front i'm not worried about since its lowered all the way (and honestly probably doesnt need the locking screw at that point). Also added some antiseize to the locking screw as there is no doubt the screw would otherwise get stuck after winter driving. Best guess on the rears is that since it uses a helper spring that spins independent from the larger coil, this prevents the collar from moving. I do, having some trouble trying to post them from mobile. Will take another crack at it after work from a PC. |
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11-07-2019, 03:33 PM | #2409 | |
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11-10-2019, 02:26 PM | #2410 |
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Just an update since my first impressions:
Took the car out on a more spirited drive today, and drove along the roads with a little more elevation change under full throttle. And here is where MP HAS limitations are exposed. I knew this going in, and this has already been discussed at length, but it's true that the stock shocks are the problem here. MP HAS is so much better than my previous MS springs - you definitely get what you pay for here. But you also only get what you pay for by sticking with stock shocks. Echoing many before me, the stock shocks are a tad underdamped. Sure, it's comfortable, but I had to lift off and pucker up on my reference dip where my B16 just ran over it. But even in less extreme cases, traction control just kicks in a lot more often than on the B16 kit, whether the road is flat or mildly bumpy/uneven. In the end, I'd sum it up like this. - If all you want is to be lower, get MP HAS. You're going to get an essentially stock experience and love it. Don't waste your time on Macht Schnell springs. Can't comment on any other set, but I believe the rears were too low just riding the bump stops, and even with the extra spacers, very crashy. - If you want a genuine performance improvement you can notice all the time, for the money you can't go wrong with B16 Damptronic if you have EDC and want to keep it. Yes, it's stiffer than MP HAS (Comfort is roughly between Sport and Sport+), but you're getting so much more stability and grip in return. Now, addressing the elephant in the room: Why would I "downgrade" from B16 Damptronic to MP HAS? Well, I'm not single anymore, and I have more people to drive around than I used to. My wife has been driving a Lexus for the past 15 years, and has a very different idea than I do for what is considered comfortable. I enjoy driving my M3, and I don't want to avoid driving it because she doesn't want to ride in it. In addition, I am kind of setting up my car to be sold easier if/when the time comes. I don't want to limit my potential buyers to only enthusiasts who would appreciate the B16 kit - it's no secret that stock cars sell better since the market is bigger. MP HAS is close enough that I could win over a more casual buyer. Sorry if it's long, but I hope this helps EDC owners looking for an upgrade to pick the right kit for their goals. My B16 kit is for sale on the classifieds for anyone interested. |
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Thanks for the information! |
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