Taking The Next Step for Track Set-Up

[Cajun1]

Thanks to all who contribute here and some advice please.

I'm driving a 2015 M4, which I have enjoyed immensely! So far my only mods are Euro MDM and RE-11's 265/285 x 35, and pagid pads which have all worked out great. My driving skills have improved and it's time to replace tires. I'm sensing a lack of grip from the front and am limited on how soon I can apply throttle at corner exit. I track about 4 times a year, give or take.

Obviously camber plates would even out front tire wear and increase grip but I wonder if they might create an oversteer issue if I stay with a 265/285 set up in say a RE-71?

I'm trying to avoid a dedicated track wheel set that needs to be lugged around and installed/removed for a track day. Or do I need to bite the bullet and go with an Apex set up 275/305 NT01?

Thanks for any feed back!

[mindspin311]

Start with camber plates, learn to outdrive those street tires before going to something less forgiving like the NT01.

[bracer]

Questions first

Can you live with tires that are super noisy on the street?
Can you live with tires that last 8k miles?

Camber plates are huge, but there is a definite trade off going to super sticky rubber on the street. Are you ok with that?

[Cajun1]

Originally Posted by blackey

Questions first

Can you live with tires that are super noisy on the street?
Can you live with tires that last 8k miles?

Camber plates are huge, but there is a definite trade off going to super sticky rubber on the street. Are you ok with that?

I'm averaging about 5k miles per year and not DD this vehicle so my tolerance for noise is a bit higher than typical but would hate to take a 4 hour trip to the track if it's excessive. 8K miles are OK and hoping to establish exactly what the trade offs would be.

[bracer]

I ran 275 / 305 RE71's. They were much faster, wore fairly well (camber plates), and I got about 8K miles with 4-5 autocrosses on them. I did not use them for track (I have dedicated wheels for that), but everything I know they are very similar to NT01's.

They are about 25%-50% louder, and have stiffer sidewalls, so they do not ride as well for sure, but that's the tradeoff.

As a single set not a bad option.

[Cajun1]

Thanks Blackey,
And you're using those with 10" and 11" wheels?

[Click Noguera]

https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=24269500

[bracer]

yep (18x10, 19x11 btw)

[Cajun1]

Originally Posted by blackey

yep (18x10, 19x11 btw)

Was the choice for mixed wheel diameter made so that outside diameter would be closer to stock thereby not upsetting DCS?

This might be just what I was looking for,
Thanks

[CanAutM3]

Camber plates will not make the car loose per se, it remains perfectly manageable.

More front camber does significantly improve turn-in response though, so you'll want to tame those hands, smoothness is paramount. Too much correction mid turn could indeed get the rear to step out, but the added camber also makes it quicker to correct

[bracer]

Close to stock and a bit more front tire as the 19" choices in RE71's was limited.

[bimmerboyE92]

RE71Rs will last 6 track days (4-5 sessions per day). But the fun meter starts to go down after 3 days. Drive 200 miles ea way to track per weekend.