European Auto Source (EAS)
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   BMW M3 and BMW M4 Forum > BMW F80 M3 / F82 M4 Technical Topics > Suspension | Brakes | Chassis

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      11-05-2015, 09:33 AM   #45
C-Mu
Lieutenant
135
Rep
408
Posts

Drives: 2016 M4
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: So Cal, USA

iTrader: (0)

Finally! I'm in. Anyone at SEMA get a release date and pricing?
Appreciate 0
      11-05-2015, 03:34 PM   #46
Brosef
Brigadier General
Brosef's Avatar
United_States
872
Rep
3,446
Posts

Drives: F90 M5
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Chicago

iTrader: (4)

subscribed for updates (particularly details on the spring rates). this is an interesting option for those of us looking for a very modest drop and hopefully close to stock comfort
Appreciate 1
      11-05-2015, 04:04 PM   #47
CanAutM3
General
CanAutM3's Avatar
Canada
21105
Rep
20,741
Posts

Drives: 2021 911 turbo
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Montreal

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brosef View Post
subscribed for updates (particularly details on the spring rates). this is an interesting option for those of us looking for a very modest drop and hopefully close to stock comfort
Although I consider a 25mm drop not that modest
__________________
Porsche 911 turbo 2021 992 GT Silver

Previous cars: M4cs 2019 F82 Limerock Grey / M4 2015 F82 Silverstone / M3 2008 E92 Silverstone / M3 2002 E46 Carbon Black
Appreciate 1
      11-05-2015, 06:12 PM   #48
Brosef
Brigadier General
Brosef's Avatar
United_States
872
Rep
3,446
Posts

Drives: F90 M5
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Chicago

iTrader: (4)

Quote:
Originally Posted by CanAutM3 View Post
Although I consider a 25mm drop not that modest
true, but the available drop is 5-25mm. I would probably drop it somewhere in the middle. still not sure if I'd do that.

I'll probably just wait for the ZCP and if that offers a better package, I'll find some second hand struts off a ZCP car.
Appreciate 0
      11-06-2015, 07:02 AM   #49
jackkk
Lieutenant
jackkk's Avatar
Russian Federation
73
Rep
549
Posts

Drives: M3 F80
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Moscow

iTrader: (0)

It is good that it works with the EDC and this is the OEM part. I hope they will offer this like an add-on part lika KW HAS kit + programming the dampers. We can add the camber plates and go to the track without getting the coil overs with no EDC function.
__________________
F80 M3 SO/SO |BM3 St.1 91 oct.|Cattless DPs|Tractive P'n'P|Brembo 6pot|Rays G25 with CUP2 tires|GTS coding|
1M VO FBO (KW DDC) PTF st.2+ sold
e90 335i FBO jb4 sold
Appreciate 0
      11-06-2015, 07:39 AM   #50
W///
Lieutenant General
W///'s Avatar
7436
Rep
12,293
Posts

Drives: F82GTS, E36/E92M3, Z4M
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: SC

iTrader: (13)

Quote:
Originally Posted by C-Mu View Post
Finally! I'm in. Anyone at SEMA get a release date and pricing?
Mid 2016. No official word on price yet
__________________
Current:
16 F82 M4 GTS, Black Sapphire/Black, DCT
08 E92 M3, Sparkling Graphite/Bamboo Beige, 6MT
07 E85 Z4M Roadster, Alpine White/Red, 6MT
99 E36 M3, Techno Violet/Dove Grey, 6MT
Appreciate 0
      11-06-2015, 08:11 AM   #51
C-Mu
Lieutenant
135
Rep
408
Posts

Drives: 2016 M4
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: So Cal, USA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by W/// View Post
Mid 2016. No official word on price yet
Thanks!
Appreciate 0
      11-09-2015, 01:14 PM   #52
x.shell
▆ ✚✚   ▆▆▆▆▆▆
x.shell's Avatar
6577
Rep
5,304
Posts

Drives: ▋ ▉▉
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location:  ▆▆▆ ▆▆▆ ▆

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by W/// View Post
Mid 2016. No official word on price yet
Interesting that there is such a long wait for these. Since KW has already had lots of time on the HAS kit, why the delay? Is there anything inherently different between KW's HAS and the BMW M-Perf ones that they will be manufacturing?
Appreciate 1
      11-09-2015, 04:26 PM   #53
rubber_ducky
Colonel
rubber_ducky's Avatar
383
Rep
2,988
Posts

Drives: roach coach
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: boston-ish

iTrader: (21)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ex o View Post
Interesting that there is such a long wait for these. Since KW has already had lots of time on the HAS kit, why the delay? Is there anything inherently different between KW's HAS and the BMW M-Perf ones that they will be manufacturing?
I think that there's some confusion as a result of bmw (and dinan) calling these kits "coil-overs". The other thread showing the full gamut of MP parts mentions availability of both springs and coilovers. With the former having a late 2015 release date and the latter coming mid-2016. It also mentions price points of $1000 and $3200.

Bmw are referring to these springs as coilovers, but they can't cost $3200. No way. So I'm guessing that these are indeed "springs" (not coilovers) and will be available in late 2015 for around a grand. In mid 2016, week likely see a true coilover kit (similar to the M2 kit) for around $3200
Appreciate 3
      11-09-2015, 04:48 PM   #54
CanAutM3
General
CanAutM3's Avatar
Canada
21105
Rep
20,741
Posts

Drives: 2021 911 turbo
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Montreal

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by rubber_ducky View Post
I think that there's some confusion as a result of bmw (and dinan) calling these kits "coil-overs". The other thread showing the full gamut of MP parts mentions availability of both springs and coilovers. With the former having a late 2015 release date and the latter coming mid-2016. It also mentions price points of $1000 and $3200.

Bmw are referring to these springs as coilovers, but they can't cost $3200. No way. So I'm guessing that these are indeed "springs" (not coilovers) and will be available in late 2015 for around a grand. In mid 2016, week likely see a true coilover kit (similar to the M2 kit) for around $3200
^This makes a lot of sense
__________________
Porsche 911 turbo 2021 992 GT Silver

Previous cars: M4cs 2019 F82 Limerock Grey / M4 2015 F82 Silverstone / M3 2008 E92 Silverstone / M3 2002 E46 Carbon Black
Appreciate 0
      11-09-2015, 05:51 PM   #55
S65V8
*_*
United_States
806
Rep
3,160
Posts

Drives: ...
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Los Angeles, CA

iTrader: (10)

Interesting, and do wonder if they will have a EDC coilover set-up that directly competes with Bilstein's Damptronic offering that will be available est. Q1 2016. Or did they specify their offering will work with EDC already? Maybe I didn't catch that.

The $3200 price mentioned earlier in this thread is about what Bilstein is set to sell theirs for. Another twist could be BMW is using white labelled Bilstein Damptronics and repackaging as a M-perf part, they've done this before with other parts so it wouldn't be surprising...
Appreciate 0
      11-10-2015, 06:51 AM   #56
rubber_ducky
Colonel
rubber_ducky's Avatar
383
Rep
2,988
Posts

Drives: roach coach
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: boston-ish

iTrader: (21)

Quote:
Originally Posted by SROC5 View Post
Interesting, and do wonder if they will have a EDC coilover set-up that directly competes with Bilstein's Damptronic offering that will be available est. Q1 2016. Or did they specify their offering will work with EDC already? Maybe I didn't catch that.

The $3200 price mentioned earlier in this thread is about what Bilstein is set to sell theirs for. Another twist could be BMW is using white labelled Bilstein Damptronics and repackaging as a M-perf part, they've done this before with other parts so it wouldn't be surprising...
This is pure speculation, but I'd wager that the coilover kit is intended to be a replacement for the OE passive suspension setup, while the springs are intended to compliment EDC. The coilover kit will probably not interface with the factory EDC electronics, but either kit will probably work on any F80/F80.

Again, purely speculative on my part
Appreciate 0
      11-10-2015, 07:02 AM   #57
CanAutM3
General
CanAutM3's Avatar
Canada
21105
Rep
20,741
Posts

Drives: 2021 911 turbo
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Montreal

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by rubber_ducky View Post
This is pure speculation, but I'd wager that the coilover kit is intended to be a replacement for the OE passive suspension setup, while the springs are intended to compliment EDC. The coilover kit will probably not interface with the factory EDC electronics, but either kit will probably work on any F80/F80.

Again, purely speculative on my part
You are getting good at this
__________________
Porsche 911 turbo 2021 992 GT Silver

Previous cars: M4cs 2019 F82 Limerock Grey / M4 2015 F82 Silverstone / M3 2008 E92 Silverstone / M3 2002 E46 Carbon Black
Appreciate 1
      11-10-2015, 01:26 PM   #58
s0ul
Coder
s0ul's Avatar
United_States
573
Rep
1,540
Posts

Drives: '13 F30 328xi, '16 F82 (soon)
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: NoVA

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackDragon
Quote:
Originally Posted by s0ul View Post
Why won't they have support for EDC? That's like selling ice cream cones without ice cream at an ice cream parlor :P
who calls it an ice cream parlor anyway? LOL
Idk just sounds weird saying ice cream store or shop
__________________
2016 ///M4: SO / SS — Lovin' it!
Appreciate 0
      11-10-2015, 01:59 PM   #59
Ever.
Second Lieutenant
Ever.'s Avatar
211
Rep
293
Posts

Drives: '16 F82 MW/SO
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Sin City

iTrader: (0)

After speaking to the guys at the BMW booth, they said this would be a sleeve over, which would be using your stock assembly, much like Dinan does. I mentioned Dinan, and Jake and the other BMW agents who flew in from Germany said pricing shouldn't be much different from the Dinan sleeve-overs which are $1600 at the moment.

I'm sure other available sleeve-over/spring kits are great, but this product makes much sense to me than a whole new coil-over. No one better to use their own stock suspension than BMW themselves, instead of a third party product installed over a BMW shock/strut assembly. They know their own R&D.

This is also much better in terms of warranty claims. Even with Dinan considered.

If I remember correctly, they are hoping for early to mid 2016 release.

I'm sure this is just speculation and who knows what BMW might actually do. They've surprised us before, but what they said makes sense for the time being.

Last edited by Ever.; 11-10-2015 at 02:12 PM..
Appreciate 1
      11-10-2015, 02:05 PM   #60
x.shell
▆ ✚✚   ▆▆▆▆▆▆
x.shell's Avatar
6577
Rep
5,304
Posts

Drives: ▋ ▉▉
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location:  ▆▆▆ ▆▆▆ ▆

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Virginsoft View Post
After speaking to the guys at the BMW booth, they said this would be a sleeve over, which would be using your stock assembly, much like Dinan does. I mentioned Dinan, and Jake and the other BMW agents who flew in from Germany said pricing shouldn't be much different from the Dinan sleeve-overs which are $1600 at the moment.

I'm sure other available sleeve-over/spring kits are great, but this product makes much sense to me than a whole new coil-over. No one better to use their own stock suspension than BMW themselves, instead of a third party product installed over a BMW shock/strut assembly. They know their own R&D.

If I remember correctly, they are hoping for early to mid 2016 release.
Thanks for the info. This will effectively cut Dinan out. KW played their cards effectively on this one.
Appreciate 1
      12-15-2015, 06:12 PM   #61
slowie
First Lieutenant
slowie's Avatar
53
Rep
379
Posts

Drives: 2015 M3, 428i, Sahara
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Perth, Australia

iTrader: (0)

Any updates on these?
Appreciate 0
      12-16-2015, 04:43 PM   #62
Brasko
#LSBM3
Brasko's Avatar
No_Country
1418
Rep
1,973
Posts

Drives: 2016 BMW M3
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Oregon / Florida

iTrader: (4)

Garage List
This has got me reconsidering the Dinan "coilover" set up I was originally going to go with. I might have to wait it out and try these instead.
__________________


/// M3
Appreciate 0
      12-16-2015, 05:23 PM   #63
MyFragileHalogen
Captain
449
Rep
992
Posts

Drives: '16 M4 6MT
Join Date: May 2013
Location: OR

iTrader: (0)

Sound promising!
Appreciate 0
      12-17-2015, 08:28 AM   #64
F82bro
Enlisted Member
21
Rep
46
Posts

Drives: F82 Austin Yellow
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Boston

iTrader: (0)

Any update on when available? Called my local dealer and spoke with head of parts dept. He had no idea when these would be coming out. In fact he hadn't heard anything about them at all.
Appreciate 0
      12-17-2015, 07:23 PM   #65
HP Autosport
Supreme Allied Commander
United_States
3777
Rep
54,162
Posts

Drives: F80 M3
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Santa Barbara, AP, Brembo, GIAC, Koni, Ohlins, Performance Friction, www.hpautosport.com

iTrader: (36)

BMW, please take away some compression damping and add more rebound damping, then we will have a great factory coilover kit.
Appreciate 0
      12-18-2015, 11:34 AM   #66
TRZ06
Lieutenant Colonel
TRZ06's Avatar
United_States
629
Rep
1,755
Posts

Drives: 16' M3
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Bay Area, CA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by HP Autosport
BMW, please take away some compression damping and add more rebound damping, then we will have a great factory coilover kit.
Agreed!!!

The low speed rebound is pretty embarrassing for a car of this nature. It's pretty sloppy

WWWAAAYYY too much up and down motion , even in the sport+ setting.
__________________
18? Camaro 2SS 1LE
16' M3 MG Ext. /SO Int. (DCT, Ohlin R/T, 19" wheels)
15' Audi S4
13' Audi TTRS (APR stage 1, MSS springs)
09' C6 Z06
08' M3 Interlagos Blue: 6sp, Tech.
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:41 AM.




f80post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST