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      07-27-2021, 04:37 PM   #10275
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I HATE the gloss black side skirts on my car. The dope that whoever was smoking when they drummed up this idea was some powerful shit. I wish the M performance side skirts weren’t so horrible or I’d have already made the switch. Holding out for some aftermarket replacements soon.

Gloss black on a panel closest to the street where EVERYTHING shows up on it, lol.
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So what you're saying is….


…one narrative can be presented, but an alternative narrative can't be presented?! The fact is in my area the car does sell above MSRP more often than not AND allocations are hard to come by. It may not sit well with you that the situation suggests that some people like the car, but that's the truth. Why do I have to be a fanboy simply because I try to objective about the car? Why are you unable to have a mature discussion without resorting to antagonist name calling? Me and some of the fellas here don't always agree on things, but at least we remain mature and civil. You're the outlier here.


P.S. Desirable colors matter, which is why I ditched the idea of a Python Green 992 and reverted back to Chalk Gray. So in essence, we can concede that colors matter in one instance (…Porsche), but when applied to BMW (..e.g…the Urban Green, Mantis Green or Mint Green colored cars available) it should be rendered a non-issue?!?!
Sorry, but you're anything but mature or objective. I don't have time to dig up your past tens of thousands of posts but I have come across on more than one occasion where you've made the suggestion that anyone not liking the G8x grill doesn't have the right opinion. How does that even make sense when it's an opinion and not fact? Just because you have time to post every 5 minutes on Bimmerpost doesn't make your narrative fact.
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You guys are trying so hard to prove the other side wrong in the inventory argument that anyone looking for a G8x might want to follow this thread to find out where the cars at
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      07-27-2021, 04:47 PM   #10278
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So what you're saying is….


…one narrative can be presented, but an alternative narrative can't be presented?! The fact is in my area the car does sell above MSRP more often than not AND allocations are hard to come by. It may not sit well with you that the situation suggests that some people like the car, but that's the truth. Why do I have to be a fanboy simply because I try to objective about the car? Why are you unable to have a mature discussion without resorting to antagonist name calling? Me and some of the fellas here don't always agree on things, but at least we remain mature and civil. You're the outlier here.


P.S. Desirable colors matter, which is why I ditched the idea of a Python Green 992 and reverted back to Chalk Gray. So in essence, we can concede that colors matter in one instance (…Porsche), but when applied to BMW (..e.g…the Urban Green, Mantis Green or Mint Green colored cars available) it should be rendered a non-issue?!?!
Sorry, but you're anything but mature or objective. I don't have time to dig up your past tens of thousands of posts but I have come across on more than one occasion where you've made the suggestion that anyone not liking the G8x grill doesn't have the right opinion. How does that even make sense when it's an opinion and not fact? Just because you have time to post every 5 minutes on Bimmerpost doesn't make your narrative fact.
I've never said anything like that and I challenge you to find it. I've ALWAYS championed opinion, but I don't consider opinion a fact. We are all entitled to our subjective feelings about anything.
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Well you guys stop it already. Dead horse.

We won't know how much of success the G8x will be for at least another 2 years.

The F8x generation sold tremendously well.

You're both wrong and you're both right.

Let's go back to a design that isn't horrible to look at, the 911. (Saw a 65 yo woman driving a 992 C4S today, I died inside).
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      07-27-2021, 05:07 PM   #10280
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Well you guys stop it already. Dead horse.

We won't know how much of success the G8x will be for at least another 2 years.

The F8x generation sold tremendously well.

You're both wrong and you're both right.

Let's go back to a design that isn't horrible to look at, the 911. (Saw a 65 yo woman driving a 992 C4S today, I died inside).

That's how I feel every time I see an older lady/grandmother driving a 911 Turbo or GT3 around here.
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      07-27-2021, 05:13 PM   #10281
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Well you guys stop it already. Dead horse.

We won't know how much of success the G8x will be for at least another 2 years.

The F8x generation sold tremendously well.

You're both wrong and you're both right.

Let's go back to a design that isn't horrible to look at, the 911. (Saw a 65 yo woman driving a 992 C4S today, I died inside).
You kidding!?

I don't think the horse is dead enough.
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      07-27-2021, 05:23 PM   #10283
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Agreed! See my post above yours.
Right. Lots of guesses about the success (or failure) of the G8x are being made based on anecdotal evidence. It seems like they're producing a lot and moving them reasonable quickly, but that's based on not much more than eyeballing dealer inventory over the past couple of months. We're going to have to wait for the actual numbers.
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      07-27-2021, 05:36 PM   #10284
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Well you guys stop it already. Dead horse.
I wish it was dead so we could burry it and never have to see it again.
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      07-27-2021, 06:39 PM   #10285
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Agreed! See my post above yours.
Right. Lots of guesses about the success (or failure) of the G8x are being made based on anecdotal evidence. It seems like they're producing a lot and moving them reasonable quickly, but that's based on not much more than eyeballing dealer inventory over the past couple of months. We're going to have to wait for the actual numbers.
Agreed, but more importantly some time must pass.

I remember when the F3X crowd kept championing its early sales success to the E9X crowd and other detractors who complained about the bad steering, interior quality, lack of performance delta, etc. "Sales are up!" was the response to any criticism.

A lot of the early "success" were quarters compared to prior periods with little inventory, etc. It didn't take long for those numbers to deteriorate. The F3X was far from a success and it contributed to BMW's poor stock performance and management turnover.
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Well you guys stop it already. Dead horse.
Man walks into a sports bar:

"Will you guys stop it already. Dead horse. We won't know how much of a success this team will be until the end of the season!"

QED.
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      07-27-2021, 06:53 PM   #10287
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The Germans are really struggling to design a proper grill. The car is a body-colored grill away from being great… and yes, you can get a body-colored grill although stupidly can't get any good options with it.
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Agreed, but more importantly some time must pass.
this.

But first, as in the post above, WTF is this thread for if not friendly banter over whether the G8x makes it to the semi-finals??

Also, sales #s are only part of the story cause:

1.) BMW lies about sales numbers

2.) All sales aren't equal, i.e., dealer incentives, rebates, etc; that's why you look at ATP numbers and we know that while BMW's sales are up, their ATP is down both M/M and Y/Y ... that probably isn't good, and certainly not preferred or explainable AFAIK (e.g., Tesla halted sales their luxe products while M3 sales are blowing up, thus falling ATP)

3.) Lots of "fools" might buy a new G8x - the real test is can those new buyers find a "great fool"?


I have no doubt that:

a.) BMW is using all of its power to control negative media, blowback (we're here right??), and negative numbers.

b.) BMW will use all of its power to move a respectable # units & they will ... by hook or crook as the saying goes

c.) There are people that legit like the G8x design and will buy & enjoy them.


So where will we be at the end of the season?

* BMW will retire the design
* BMW will retire the designers
* G8x resale values will lag every previous M3/4
* BMW will declare the G8x a big win and then quickly change the subject

In a decade we'll hear in interviews how the G8x was BMW's lowest moment & design schools will use the G8x as the premier example of bad design.
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Because it doesn't matter per your own words: "They do have a few allocations however"

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Where are these elusive G80 allocations? Because outside of this thread the consensus seems to be that they are few and far between for MSRP buyers.
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Where are these elusive G80 allocations? Because outside of this thread the consensus seems to be that they are few and far between for MSRP buyers.
….and that is a factual statement depending on where you reside. Even when I call outside of California after someone claims a dealership has cars, I have found that actual cars on the ground are few & far between and/or are already spoken for. Allocations are hit and miss.
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Where are these elusive G80 allocations? Because outside of this thread the consensus seems to be that they are few and far between for MSRP buyers.
My local dealer has a G82 unspoken for on the way.

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….and that is a factual statement depending on where you reside. Even when I call outside of California after someone claims a dealer has cars, I have found that actual cars on the ground are few & far between and/or are already spoken for. Allocations are hit and miss.
I'm pretty certain you will have to do research and ask around regardless.

I do not believe in people just saying, ask here and you can get it! If that has been the case then finding allocation regardless of which car you are trying to get, shouldn't be this difficult.

COVID make things more difficult due to just how things are at the moment. New cars are lacking.

None of us have enough information to be definitive but I have at least seen the GSM's computer for Porsche and have some idea of allocation #s for Porsche at the current time. Which is, not enough.
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….and that is a factual statement depending on where you reside. Even when I call outside of California after someone claims a dealer has cars, I have found that actual cars on the ground are few & far between and/or are already spoken for. Allocations are hit and miss.
I'm pretty certain you will have to do research and ask around regardless.

I do not believe in people just saying, ask here and you can get it! If that has been the case then finding allocation regardless of which car you are trying to get, shouldn't be this difficult.

COVID make things more difficult due to just how things are at the moment. New cars are lacking.

None of us have enough information to be definitive but I have at least seen the GSM's computer for Porsche and have some idea of allocation #s for Porsche at the current time. Which is, not enough.
Fair assessment. My Sales Manager buddy who left BMW for Mercedes (…the one who contacted his Porsche connect to provide me an allocation) is back with BMW again, albeit with a different dealership. I'll inquire about how many allocations his dealership receives monthly for the G8X.
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Fair assessment. My Sales Manager buddy who left BMW for Mercedes (…the one who contacted his Porsche connect to provide me an allocation) is back with BMW again, albeit with a different dealership. I'll inquire about how many allocations his dealership receives monthly for the G8X.
I don't think there are enough people just going around to ask for allocation.

The more typical buyer just go straight for lot cars because they don't care. Online community are still in the minority. As most of us know what we want or prefer, we like to get something to order instead of buying off lot if we can avoid it.

Not every regular buyer thinks this way. One of the reasons why Tesla is so popular is that they don't have to deal with dealerships. Dealerships play games, a lot, unless you know your way around them. Dealerships/floor salesman can easily lie to you about not having allocation (and they don't prove it) and just make you buy off lot.
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Fair assessment. My Sales Manager buddy who left BMW for Mercedes (…the one who contacted his Porsche connect to provide me an allocation) is back with BMW again, albeit with a different dealership. I'll inquire about how many allocations his dealership receives monthly for the G8X.
I don't think there are enough people just going around to ask for allocation.

The more typical buyer just go straight for lot cars because they don't care. Online community are still in the minority. As most of us know what we want or prefer, we like to get something to order instead of buying off lot if we can avoid it.

Not every regular buyer thinks this way. One of the reasons why Tesla is so popular is that they don't have to deal with dealerships. Dealerships play games, a lot, unless you know your way around them. Dealerships/floor salesman can easily lie to you about not having allocation (and they don't prove it) and just make you buy off lot.

My buddy got back to me. The next batch of allocations at his dealership will be for November production, so a December/January delivery.
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Thanks for offering but I must pass. I have come to appreciate the G80 but BMW jumped the shark with the G82. (I believe the market agrees - G82s are more available and have deeper discounts than the G80.)
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