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You guys are trying so hard to prove the other side wrong in the inventory argument that anyone looking for a G8x might want to follow this thread to find out where the cars at
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Well you guys stop it already. Dead horse.
We won't know how much of success the G8x will be for at least another 2 years. The F8x generation sold tremendously well. You're both wrong and you're both right. Let's go back to a design that isn't horrible to look at, the 911. (Saw a 65 yo woman driving a 992 C4S today, I died inside). |
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I don't think the horse is dead enough.
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Right. Lots of guesses about the success (or failure) of the G8x are being made based on anecdotal evidence. It seems like they're producing a lot and moving them reasonable quickly, but that's based on not much more than eyeballing dealer inventory over the past couple of months. We're going to have to wait for the actual numbers.
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I remember when the F3X crowd kept championing its early sales success to the E9X crowd and other detractors who complained about the bad steering, interior quality, lack of performance delta, etc. "Sales are up!" was the response to any criticism. A lot of the early "success" were quarters compared to prior periods with little inventory, etc. It didn't take long for those numbers to deteriorate. The F3X was far from a success and it contributed to BMW's poor stock performance and management turnover.
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"Will you guys stop it already. Dead horse. We won't know how much of a success this team will be until the end of the season!" QED. |
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The Germans are really struggling to design a proper grill. The car is a body-colored grill away from being great… and yes, you can get a body-colored grill although stupidly can't get any good options with it.
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this.
But first, as in the post above, WTF is this thread for if not friendly banter over whether the G8x makes it to the semi-finals?? Also, sales #s are only part of the story cause: 1.) BMW lies about sales numbers 2.) All sales aren't equal, i.e., dealer incentives, rebates, etc; that's why you look at ATP numbers and we know that while BMW's sales are up, their ATP is down both M/M and Y/Y ... that probably isn't good, and certainly not preferred or explainable AFAIK (e.g., Tesla halted sales their luxe products while M3 sales are blowing up, thus falling ATP) 3.) Lots of "fools" might buy a new G8x - the real test is can those new buyers find a "great fool"? I have no doubt that: a.) BMW is using all of its power to control negative media, blowback (we're here right??), and negative numbers. b.) BMW will use all of its power to move a respectable # units & they will ... by hook or crook as the saying goes c.) There are people that legit like the G8x design and will buy & enjoy them. So where will we be at the end of the season? * BMW will retire the design * BMW will retire the designers * G8x resale values will lag every previous M3/4 * BMW will declare the G8x a big win and then quickly change the subject In a decade we'll hear in interviews how the G8x was BMW's lowest moment & design schools will use the G8x as the premier example of bad design. |
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….and that is a factual statement depending on where you reside. Even when I call outside of California after someone claims a dealership has cars, I have found that actual cars on the ground are few & far between and/or are already spoken for. Allocations are hit and miss.
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I do not believe in people just saying, ask here and you can get it! If that has been the case then finding allocation regardless of which car you are trying to get, shouldn't be this difficult. COVID make things more difficult due to just how things are at the moment. New cars are lacking. None of us have enough information to be definitive but I have at least seen the GSM's computer for Porsche and have some idea of allocation #s for Porsche at the current time. Which is, not enough.
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The more typical buyer just go straight for lot cars because they don't care. Online community are still in the minority. As most of us know what we want or prefer, we like to get something to order instead of buying off lot if we can avoid it. Not every regular buyer thinks this way. One of the reasons why Tesla is so popular is that they don't have to deal with dealerships. Dealerships play games, a lot, unless you know your way around them. Dealerships/floor salesman can easily lie to you about not having allocation (and they don't prove it) and just make you buy off lot.
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My buddy got back to me. The next batch of allocations at his dealership will be for November production, so a December/January delivery. |
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