Anyone else get banned from the G8X section for making fun of its looks?

[Darth One]

@F8SEVEN every single bit of that trip looks amazing. I have to give you credit for the presence of mind to capture that hyena-looking thing mid-shit

I'd done one of the LR Experiences in the English countryside, not even thinking to check out what else they offer. Thrilling to see this kind of all inclusive lux safari deal actually be a thing

[Humdizzle]

most likely the GT4 RS will still have the 'cayman complex' so it doesn't step on big brothers toes.

if they gave it the GT3 engine it would outperform the GT3 and probably the RS as well. better engine placement and 200 pounds lighter. I dont think the GT3s double wishbone suspension is going to make up for that.

[M3WC]

Originally Posted by alex2364

I doubt this will make the front page, but C&D just did a M5 vs RS7 vs CT5-V Blackwing. Guess who won...

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...wing-compared/

A decisive win for the CT5-V Blackwing. Swan song before Cadillac goes all electric.

[Fugly M3]

Originally Posted by Darth One

@F8SEVEN every single bit of that trip looks amazing. I have to give you credit for the presence of mind to capture that hyena-looking thing mid-shit

I'd done one of the LR Experiences in the English countryside, not even thinking to check out what else they offer. Thrilling to see this kind of all inclusive lux safari deal actually be a thing

Ha, thanks! Black backed jackal is what it was…look closer at the elephant…he's taking care of business too! It was a blast and they're offering more in the future I believe. They do the snow stuff in Sweden like BMW and are going to soon be doing Scotland and Moab. Also plans for more parts of Africa…can't wait for Botswana!

[GrussGott]

Originally Posted by F8SEVEN

H

They do the snow stuff in Sweden like BMW

BMW does snow stuff in Sweden? Like an adventure tour or something?

[Fugly M3]

Originally Posted by GrussGott

BMW does snow stuff in Sweden? Like an adventure tour or something?

Ice driving...drifting in M cars on the frozen lakes. I did it in early 2020...broke my collarbone, 4 ribs and collapsed a lung on the optional snowmobile tour. Spent 8 days in hospital. The snowmobile side tour is no longer offered.

[Arcades]

This video is pretty good. Some of what Cammisa says kinda... applies to our situation. Watch you'll pick up on what I mean.

Also, Glovis Sun, the ship carrying my GT4 docked this morning at San Diego.

[swagon]

Originally Posted by GrussGott

BMW does snow stuff in Sweden? Like an adventure tour or something?

Every major German manufacturer offers snow stuff in Sweden or Finland.

https://www.bmw-drivingexperience.co...-weltweit.html

https://experience.porsche.com/de/ice/international

https://www.audi.de/de/brand/de/audi...xperience.html

https://mercedes-benz-driving-events...weden-austria/

McLaren too! https://cars.mclaren.com/en/experien...xperience-2022

[R N M]

Originally Posted by Humdizzle

most likely the GT4 RS will still have the 'cayman complex' so it doesn't step on big brothers toes.

if they gave it the GT3 engine it would outperform the GT3 and probably the RS as well. better engine placement and 200 pounds lighter. I dont think the GT3s double wishbone suspension is going to make up for that.

Agreed no way its getting the GT3 motor.

I should have taken allocation on a GT4 in January when they were plentiful at MSRP, now a regular GT4 is $25k over if you can even get a buildable allocation and forget about GT4RS…..

My dealer offered me 911 GTS at MSRP, i would be 3rd in line. Still have a deposit on GT3 but i have better chance of winning lottery unless i pay significant ADM.

[GrussGott]

Originally Posted by swagon

Every major German manufacturer offers snow stuff in Sweden or Finland.

holy shit

[stein_325i]

Originally Posted by Arcades

This video is pretty good. Some of what Cammisa says kinda... applies to our situation. Watch you'll pick up on what I mean.

Also, Glovis Sun, the ship carrying my GT4 docked this morning at San Diego.

Great video and funky car too, never realized there was so much history behind the SZ. I saw one back a few years ago and man is it definitely one strange looking thing in person

[Arcades]

Originally Posted by R N M

Agreed no way its getting the GT3 motor.

I should have taken allocation on a GT4 in January when they were plentiful at MSRP, now a regular GT4 is $25k over if you can even get a buildable allocation and forget about GT4RS…..

My dealer offered me 911 GTS at MSRP, i would be 3rd in line. Still have a deposit on GT3 but i have better chance of winning lottery unless i pay significant ADM.

I would take the GT3 if and only if the ADM is reasonable and if your dealership is able to keep its promise (if you trust them).

While the 911 GTS is extremely good, we can compare it kind of like a M340i to a M3. Just... 911 cars are, you know... way above that lol.

I'll point out, I still really dislike the shifter in the regular 992. I... just don't like the dumb shifter thing. That alone is enough for me to aim for the GT3 lol

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Arcades

I would take the GT3 if and only if the ADM is reasonable and if your dealership is able to keep its promise (if you trust them).

While the 911 GTS is extremely good, we can compare it kind of like a M340i to a M3. Just... 911 cars are, you know... way above that lol.

I'll point out, I still really dislike the shifter in the regular 992. I... just don't like the dumb shifter thing. That alone is enough for me to aim for the GT3 lol

Are you referring to the 6MT shifter?

I just built out a GT3 in the event my dealer offers to buy back my car at some point (…and offered me a GT3 at MSRP). My build came out to $215,000. If I were able to pocket $50-60k on the sale and manage to save the equivalent of the C2S' payment over the duration of 12-14 months (…typical GT3 wait time(s)), I could make the GT3 work under those circumstances since I would be left with an amount that's on par with the MSRP of my C2S.

[Arcades]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Are you referring to the 6MT shifter?

I just built out a GT3 in the event my dealer offers to buy back my car at some point (…and offered me a GT3 ar MSRP). My build came out to $215,000.

No the PDK shifter.

It is just a dumb mini USB shifter thing in the regular 992. I like the manual one, as the PDK one in the 992 mimics the manual looks for the PDK. AP mentioned in a video, he likes holding the shifter (I do too), so they did that for the GT3.

[R N M]

Originally Posted by Arcades

I would take the GT3 if and only if the ADM is reasonable and if your dealership is able to keep its promise (if you trust them).

While the 911 GTS is extremely good, we can compare it kind of like a M340i to a M3. Just... 911 cars are, you know... way above that lol.

I'll point out, I still really dislike the shifter in the regular 992. I... just don't like the dumb shifter thing. That alone is enough for me to aim for the GT3 lol

The dealer i work with is very high volume and they sell at MSRP even for GT cars.
I been on wait list for about a year now with submitted order, the issue is that they have received much less allocations than what they projected. Therefore chances of me getting a car is not good. I would pay $10-15k over at this point.

I agree the GTS is not is not as special as GT3 and i also HATE the PDK shifter. I also prefer the interior of my 991.2 with analog gauges and real buttons. My thinking is that in reality we only have a few years left of new ICE cars before they get fully banned or just get neutered for emissions compliance. The GTS is an incredible machine and i think probably the best sports car at under $150k, although my build is more 🥲

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by R N M

The dealer i work with is very high volume and they sell at MSRP even for GT cars.
I been on wait list for about a year now with submitted order, the issue is that they have received much less allocations than what they projected. Therefore chances of me getting a car is not good. I would pay $10-15k over at this point.

I agree the GTS is not is not as special as GT3 and i also HATE the PDK shifter. I also prefer the interior of my 991.2 with analog gauges and real buttons. My thinking is that in reality we only have a few years left of new ICE cars before they get fully banned or just get neutered for emissions compliance. The GTS is an incredible machine and i think probably the best sports car at under $150k, although my build is more 🥲

I would love to know which dealer sells GT cars at MSRP. Sharing is caring. I would do a no-option or minimally optioned (..$172k MSRP) 6MT GT3 Touring in a heartbeat.

[clutchdj]

Originally Posted by Humdizzle

most likely the GT4 RS will still have the 'cayman complex' so it doesn't step on big brothers toes.

if they gave it the GT3 engine it would outperform the GT3 and probably the RS as well. better engine placement and 200 pounds lighter. I dont think the GT3s double wishbone suspension is going to make up for that.

That actually makes perfect sense. With the way Porsche does it, the GT3 and GT4 literally need to stay within their racing class/regulations.

[Arcades]

Originally Posted by clutchdj

That actually makes perfect sense. With the way Porsche does it, the GT3 and GT4 literally need to stay within their racing class/regulations.

That's been the thing everyone harps on Porsche for.

Remember, despite everyone's complaint about tall gearing (even though it's common for track purpose cars), Porsche's GT division choose not to rework the manual in the GT4 and Spyder. They even mentioned they didn't because of cost reasons.

[Tecnniqe]

Originally Posted by swagon

Every major German manufacturer offers snow stuff in Sweden or Finland.

https://www.bmw-drivingexperience.co...-weltweit.html

https://experience.porsche.com/de/ice/international

https://www.audi.de/de/brand/de/audi...xperience.html

https://mercedes-benz-driving-events...weden-austria/

McLaren too! https://cars.mclaren.com/en/experien...xperience-2022

They do M Town on ice lake in Norway too, well they did before corona.

[swagon]

Been perusing adverts and found these gems

1. 2006 E60 M5 with 235k miles - who says these cars don't last long?

2. The seat of a 2014 F30 with 315k (!) miles - not too shabby…

3. E36 M3 3.2 in Boston Green over Modena -

[clutchdj]

E60m5. Prob the best sounding ///M since the divisions existence.

[No Boost]

Originally Posted by swagon

Been perusing adverts and found these gems

1. 2006 E60 M5 with 235k miles - who says these cars don't last long?

2. The seat of a 2014 F30 with 315k (!) miles - not too shabby…

3. E36 M3 3.2 in Boston Green over Modena -

Originally Posted by clutchdj

E60m5. Prob the best sounding ///M since the divisions existence.

There's a local guy who, from the sounds of it, straight piped his. It's the most aggressive and loud street car Iv'e ever heard...and in a good way.