bootmod3: CustomROM release - Map Switching, Flex Fuel, AntiLag, New Map Editor...

[KakashiSenpai]

I'm stoked to see PTF do this! A lot of these cry babies are going to head out with the new G8X. For so long everyone has been complaining about PTF to do FF & Antilag. Now released people are still complaining . Just sit tight and be grateful that we have some new features available. Thank you PTF for not giving up on the F8X platform & I'm hyped to see various setups (turbos,fuel,tuners,etc) using these features to get solid options/routes for whatever owners want to achieve with this platform

[proTUNING Freaks]

Originally Posted by dirtygrid

If I convert my OTS Stage 2 map to a CustomROM map, does that add the multimap feature? If so which map/slot would be the original stage 2?

It'll add the antilag to it and your old Stage 2 map will end up in map slot 1 with other map slots inactive.

Originally Posted by M4DNS55

Hi, I have a VF Engineering stage 2 map.
Am I able to convert this to a CustomROM map?
If yes, will I then be able to adjust the torque settings in each gear?

You'd just flash over any prior tuner's programming. Once you're running on a bm3 map you can adjust torque reduction in each gear and flash it.

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

Good Job PTF, looking forward to even more updates in the future

Originally Posted by F80_Greg

Just received another email from support, please confirm if it's okay to reconvert and flash now. Thank you proTUNING Freaks

Yes sir, good to go, issue has been fixed.

Originally Posted by jmciver

So here is another question for those of you who have already flashed one of the new CustomROM multi-maps (or converted a custom tune map)... How many of you also have an Awron gauge installed? The Awron gauge and these new BM3 features both use the same cruise control button on the steering wheel to access their respective features. So I am wondering if there is any conflict between the two as I already have the Awron gauge installed in my car (for a while actually).

And before anyone asks, yes I have a ticket in with PTF customer support on this question and have received an initial, albeit inconclusive, response. I am speculating that PTF may not have seen this issue/question before which is why I am throwing this out there to the larger group to see if anyone else has had an issue and or resolution. Given a choice, I would rather not flash and "see what happens"....

Originally Posted by F80_Greg

I'm in the same boat, i have the AK-Motion data display gauge from Germany and also wondering. I have the option of disabling menu selection on the gauge by turning off the cruise control button shortcuts and using the touch screen instead. Since it uses the CANBUS system to get information, there is a way to disable and unlink the gauge from canbus with a click of a button on my setup, i wonder if that would help any interference. My map switching worked but antilag did not work yet. After proTUNING Freaks let's us know the update discussed yesterday is live, i will experiment and let you know.

There shouldn't be a conflict between those displays and Antilag triggering as the steering wheel broadcasts messages out to any ECU listening for them.

Those displays though can interrupt datalogging and flashing depending on how they've been implemented and best to keep them disabled during flashing/logging.

[Trevorstein]

Hey again,

"Confused" here.

Is this version of "Map switching" only for those with access to e blend based fuels??




[Edit:] No. Anyone can use this

[Smee]

Originally Posted by Trevorstein

I don't need "Flex fuel"! I don't have access to ethanol blend fuels where I live.

I was told by Zanin or Serge that I would be able to have 4 maps "of my choosing".


I just need something like this!

Unfortunately this is what 99% of the customer base expected and have been let down by.

Its a shame, I love bm3 and have been waiting for map switching for a long time so I can switch depending on fuel grade available. Or stock when it goes in to bmw or misses is driving.

What are my options??? Pay for the ots multimap which is useless to me in my area. Or pay Paul or cary £2000 for 4 different maps that they can then put in to 1 customROM?

[F80_Greg]

I can confirm rolling antilag and all other new features are now working for me after the latest fix. I tried both standstill & rolling, both seem to be working great even on default settings for my custom e85 tune. Although the default settings are only building roughly 15lbs of boost for my setup as it takes more airflow to spool up the turbos, it is still working great and helps reduce a ton of boost lag in gears 3-4 for a rolling launch. Maybe i will consider working with my tuner to increase and dial in the antilag for my specific setup, but at this point i think it is sufficient. Thanks again proTUNING Freaks

[jmciver]

Originally Posted by proTUNING Freaks

There shouldn't be a conflict between those displays and Antilag triggering as the steering wheel broadcasts messages out to any ECU listening for them.

Those displays though can interrupt datalogging and flashing depending on how they've been implemented and best to keep them disabled during flashing/logging.

I will flash it this weekend to see what happens. Based on the answer I got from tech support, which was that both the display and BM3 will work at the same time when pressing those steering wheel buttons, everything should work fine. I just wanted some initial insight before I flashed the updated map with the new functionality.

[theedrb]

Am I the only idiot that can't find the "convert to customRom" button?

[fiveohwblow]

Originally Posted by theedrb

Am I the only idiot that can't find the "convert to customRom" button?

May still only be on pc. Click into the map you’re wanting to convert and it should appear on the top options.

[m4h2o]

Originally Posted by 18BMWX5M

Is this the kit? Looks like it's a new one and it's $339:

Yes thats the right one. That specific one is cheaper because it does not include the gauge for your E% and/or fuel temp. I personally would get the gauge hence why it would cost me $399.

[jmciver]

Originally Posted by m4h2o

Yes thats the right one. That specific one is cheaper because it does not include the gauge for your E% and/or fuel temp. I personally would get the gauge hence why it would cost me $399.

Don't forget that you will need the necessary fittings and hoses to connect to the fuel system, specifically the flex fuel sensor - which is not as plug-n-play as I originally thought. The kit in the link does not have the necessary fittings and hoses. Not hard to acquire, but will take some research to get the right sizes/fittings/hoses and some DIY abilities to put everything together if you want to do it yourself. And of course, that adds additional cost even if a shop does the install.

After a bit more research, I think some of the plug-n-play kits look like a better option for most DIY'ers - including me (and I found the parts necessary to build the hoses/fittings). I like the different kit options available at Bend Calibration. They have specific kits for the F8x which takes the guesswork work out of all the "little" things needed to get this working quickly and easily. I am still doing research to see if I want to invest more money on a proper E85 fuel filter setup to go with this upgrade. Two kit examples are below...

https://www.bendcalibration.com/shop...ckynblt2m09j6a

https://www.bendcalibration.com/shop...ecm6bw3toml93j

And a YouTube video showing the installation on a N55 F87 M2, which would be similar to the S55 in the M3/M4

[Psychotic Mouse]

Not sure if this is mentioned somewhere. Has anyone been able to use live adjustments on the phone App?

[chewbakam4]

Originally Posted by Psychotic Mouse

Not sure if this is mentioned somewhere. Has anyone been able to use live adjustments on the phone App?

Its not out yet for iPhones. Everyone is waiting on Apple to approve the update.

[m4h2o]

Originally Posted by jmciver

Don't forget that you will need the necessary fittings and hoses to connect to the fuel system, specifically the flex fuel sensor - which is not as plug-n-play as I originally thought. The kit in the link does not have the necessary fittings and hoses. Not hard to acquire, but will take some research to get the right sizes/fittings/hoses and some DIY abilities to put everything together if you want to do it yourself. And of course, that adds additional cost even if a shop does the install.

After a bit more research, I think some of the plug-n-play kits look like a better option for most DIY'ers - including me (and I found the parts necessary to build the hoses/fittings). I like the different kit options available at Bend Calibration. They have specific kits for the F8x which takes the guesswork work out of all the "little" things needed to get this working quickly and easily. I am still doing research to see if I want to invest more money on a proper E85 fuel filter setup to go with this upgrade. Two kit examples are below...

https://www.bendcalibration.com/shop...ckynblt2m09j6a

https://www.bendcalibration.com/shop...ecm6bw3toml93j

And a YouTube video showing the installation on a N55 F87 M2, which would be similar to the S55 in the M3/M4

Great info bud thanks

[Mintsopoulos]

Originally Posted by F80_Greg

I can confirm rolling antilag and all other new features are now working for me after the latest fix. I tried both standstill & rolling, both seem to be working great even on default settings for my custom e85 tune. Although the default settings are only building roughly 15lbs of boost for my setup as it takes more airflow to spool up the turbos, it is still working great and helps reduce a ton of boost lag in gears 3-4 for a rolling launch. Maybe i will consider working with my tuner to increase and dial in the antilag for my specific setup, but at this point i think it is sufficient. Thanks again proTUNING Freaks

Question regarding the activation at a standstill. Did you just bring the rpms above 3k and activate? How long does it hold in "anti-lag" when engaged?

[chewbakam4]

How many missed that you can check ethanol content using steering wheel controls too? I totally missed this. You press down on cruise buttons and it shows you your current ethanol % on the RPM gauge! No laptop or app or extra gauges needed, so convenient!

[Psychotic Mouse]

Originally Posted by chewbakam4

Its not out yet for iPhones. Everyone is waiting on Apple to approve the update.

Ah great. Thanks.

[MJ6]

Originally Posted by Smee

Unfortunately this is what 99% of the customer base expected and have been let down by.

Its a shame, I love bm3 and have been waiting for map switching for a long time so I can switch depending on fuel grade available. Or stock when it goes in to bmw or misses is driving.

What are my options??? Pay for the ots multimap which is useless to me in my area. Or pay Paul or cary £2000 for 4 different maps that they can then put in to 1 customROM?

This was literally covered not two pages ago. And 99%? Really?
How about we be grateful that PTF is still so dedicated to this platform that they work tirelessly to bring us options that the community asks for.
Of course, instead of being patient we could always just have them roll back the update and hold off on releasing it until every last feature is included, I'm sure that would make everyone happy.

Originally Posted by gspannu

Some comforting news...

I have just received a response from PTF... and this feature will be coming. See attached for the response from PTF.

Attachment 2549743

[F80_Greg]

Originally Posted by Mintsopoulos

Question regarding the activation at a standstill. Did you just bring the rpms above 3k and activate? How long does it hold in "anti-lag" when engaged?

Yessir, i tried it in my driveway. Just pulled my ebrake and left the shifter in neutral and revved the engine to 3k rpm. Once you fully activate it should hold for about 3-4 seconds, well it did in my case. That is more than enough time to build boost and get you a good launch off the dig, if you have a good wheel and tire combo that is. Hope that helps

[Mintsopoulos]

Originally Posted by F80_Greg

Yessir, i tried it in my driveway. Just pulled my ebrake and left the shifter in neutral and revved the engine to 3k rpm. Once you fully activate it should hold for about 3-4 seconds, well it did in my case. That is more than enough time to build boost and get you a good launch off the dig, if you have a good wheel and tire combo that is. Hope that helps

Absolutely! Appreciate the info.

I'm on my way to order some New rubber for as we speak haha. That should help with some grip.

[Trevorstein]

Originally Posted by MJ6

This was literally covered not two pages ago. And 99%? Really?
How about we be grateful that PTF is still so dedicated to this platform that they work tirelessly to bring us options that the community asks for.
Of course, instead of being patient we could always just have them roll back the update and hold off on releasing it until every last feature is included, I'm sure that would make everyone happy.

Ok., So it was "covered". How does that change my reality?

Please pardon me for not having access to e blend fuels.

Please pardon me for not having a custom tune.

[Edit:]

I purchased "BM3" because of their great reputation in the forums And,
they were a relatively economic option to tune my car.

If the latter would not have been a factor in my decision to purchase,
I would have just gone with EcuTek.

I was told, prior to purchase, by their support (Serge or Dzenan?) that
I would be b able to switch between 4 maps - "of my choosing".

"... grateful" - "Really?" [Edit:]
Sounds a little sycophantic!

[Trevorstein]

Originally Posted by Smee

Unfortunately this is what 99% of the customer base expected and have been let down by.

Its a shame, I love bm3 and have been waiting for map switching for a long time so I can switch depending on fuel grade available. Or stock when it goes in to bmw or misses is driving.

What are my options??? Pay for the ots multimap which is useless to me in my area. Or pay Paul or cary £2000 for 4 different maps that they can then put in to 1 customROM?

[Edit:] !

[MJ6]

Originally Posted by Trevorstein

Ok., So it was "covered". How does that change my reality?

Please pardon me for not having access to e blend fuels.

Please pardon me for not having a custom tune.

No additional hardware or $1k(+) custom tune required or, so I thought.

I purchased "BM3" because of their great reputation in the forums And,
they were a relatively economic option to tune my car.

If the latter would not have been a factor in my decision to purchase,
I would have just gone with EcuTek.

"... grateful" - "Really?" For having purchased something which turns
out to be Not what was offered to me?!?

Sounds a little sycophantic!

Hey man, I get where you're coming from, but never once did they say when custom map switching would be released, simply that it was being worked on.
I'm not sure how BM3 not being what was offered comes into play though as these features were only just made available, and the only features that are guaranteed are the ones that have been officially released at the time of purchase. Anything beyond that is an assumption of availability as it was never really "offered" in the first place.
They're also not charging for any of these upgraded features, which in and off itself is pretty badass. So I get that it sucks that the features you wanted weren't released and the ones that were don't apply to you, but that's how it goes sometimes. A lot of others on here have been patiently waiting for the same thing, and I'm sure that patience will eventually be rewarded, it's just a matter of if you're willing to wait until it is.