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12-31-2017, 03:54 PM | #67 | |
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I thought .5, 1, and 2 were the above with the exception being a 2+ which is a factory GTS tune with some modifications added and keeping in place all factory safe guards. If it is a factory file I don’t see how that’s the same as needing a dyno to be a full tuner to be a safe file. |
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12-31-2017, 03:57 PM | #68 | |
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Few months ago we never even thought flashing over OBDII was going to be possible. Nevertheless not sure if these OEM tunes are just reverse engineered or actual BMW tunes.
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12-31-2017, 04:28 PM | #70 |
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They can't be based on tune HP numbers in the OP:
CP 19 peak chp over non-CP vs. 20 chp (?) tune (maybe?) CS 29 peak chp over non-CP & 10 peak chp over CP vs. 50 chp (?) tune (definitely not OEM) GTS has 68 peak chp over non-CP vs. 70 chp (?) tune (Supposedly boost hasn't been increased over stock non-GTS in tune but GTS has 3 psi over non-CP and water injection. Without water injection, GTS peak power reduces to CP peak power. Can't be OEM). OP also states "OEM like". |
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12-31-2017, 04:58 PM | #71 | |
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The price you are quoting I am guessing is for a full factory conversion to a CP car. IE suspension, wheels and factory motor flash. This would be done through the actual dealership and the vehicle would be registered as a CP car. I know just the FSC that allows you to officially flash the motor to CP is around $5,000. |
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12-31-2017, 06:11 PM | #74 |
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When do you expect to have more in stock? Thanks.
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12-31-2017, 08:27 PM | #77 | |
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The end result is the same now given that you are able to unlock and flash via OBDII. Just a month ago it was a different story when you couldn't unlock via OBDII. Some people wanted OEM BMW ZCP tunes, but didn't want to have their DME pulled out and opened to get unlocked. So their only option was by paying the insane premium to get an authentic FSC code. But now since you can unlock via OBDII, reverse engineering the map and flashing via OBD achieves the same result with a fraction of the cost.
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01-01-2018, 01:14 AM | #79 |
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So does this mean I was right or Clark was right?
It still sounds like these are safe conservative stock like tunes. Nothing even close to unsafe custom tunes that you need a dump for. The unlock via obd is irrelevant. It doesn’t matter how the tune is loading you are still loading a stock tune, turning a non zcp car into a zcp and non CS car into a CS. I would imagine this is the same as what happens with the steering, or edc. A simple toggle, / copy paste? Yes? |
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01-01-2018, 01:15 PM | #80 | |
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def seems to be on the conservative, OEM side of things for the most part... but thats what Alex has mentioned from the start
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You’ll be surprised how much timing gets pulled on just a stock map on 91/93 octane. I’d feel safer running a low boost ethanol map with an ethanol meter just for the peace of mind that octane wouldn’t be an issue.
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That was my thought but sounded like a bunch of people bum rushed in here fear monger omg about not having full dyno maps for stock tunes and upgrades. I don’t get it...
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01-02-2018, 07:30 AM | #85 | |
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These inquiries are valid irrespective of the tune being "OEM-like" or not. It appears you're intimating we should just trust Alex and simply hand over our monies, no questions asked for a product/service he's never provided before for this platform. And that's absolutely no disrespect to Alex as he has a sterling reputation on the forums. What transpired was basic consumer due diligence. |
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01-02-2018, 10:40 AM | #86 | |
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It's overkill. I thinkl everyone should be able to see the info but to freak out about not having it 48 hours after it's asked for over the Christmas / New Years holiday week is silly. Most people don't even work that week. |
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01-02-2018, 01:12 PM | #87 | |
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Also I believe few other vendors already posted their graphs. Nevertheless, I hope all these OEM tunes or otherwise from vendors are viable as more options we have the better.
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