09-29-2021, 09:10 PM | #24 |
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I drove my M4CS in the winter on Cup2s (to be fair I'm in NYC and the only time I didn't drive was when there was snow on the ground). Without even saying anything bad about the STI, it's just quite a few levels below the F80. |
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09-30-2021, 07:08 AM | #25 |
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I had a focus RS which I sold. A couple weeks ago, I was looking at an STI to replace it before buying the f80. My focus rs had only a stage 1 tune with about 400hp. It was fast but not m3 fast-I still miss the car.
Anyway, I test drove two 2020 STIs (one heavily modded which I hated and one stock). The car looks cool, has a trick awd system, and the interior is definitely livable-I would get a limited though, to get the nicer seats and better sound system. That said, the STI felt very slow. I’m not exaggerating when I say I think a v6 accord or Camry would leave that car in the dust. I don’t know if it’s the gearing or power delivery or what, but it felt significantly slower than my stock focus and old Audi s3. A tune would help, but you should keep in mind that performance wise, it is a massive step down. I would get a focus rs or golf r instead if you are interested in that segment. |
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09-30-2021, 09:31 AM | #26 | |
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My Golf R was way faster, and handled almost as well. Bone stock. Mt M240i smoked it. No, it didn't have the trick drivetrain, nor the handling. But a few mods and that thing was stupid quick, and an excellent daily. Better really than an f80. josh |
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09-30-2021, 10:29 AM | #27 |
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Go with Golf R! Refined, less boy racer and excellent performance. Drove friend's couple months ago.. planted and very quick. I was impressed.
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Mine was replaced under warranty, to the tune of $6k. It is a design issue, hence why I got rid of it. I still loved that car. It was basically a hopped up GTi that could be awd when it needed to be. josh |
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10-02-2021, 08:26 AM | #34 | |
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You seem to emphasize the money part, touting several times the high trade in value of your F80. But if money is the top criteria, then you should just keep the F80 because the depreciation hit you're going to take in that one year will exceed any upfront gain you get in the F80 trade-in. From a pure money perspective, your payback is negative, there is no business case. So, to clear your "conflict," you will need to self-assess and prioritize what you really want. |
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10-02-2021, 09:33 AM | #35 | ||
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Rather than put money into the f80 which sits on summer tires and will sit all winter and only be driven weekends next spring and summer until I can get a G87 M2 delivered, I was thinking I could flip it into something fun I could drive in the winter and next spring summer. Already have two SUVs so this would just be a 1yr for fun car. If I sell the car to Vroom for $43,600 which they offered and wait for the M2 then I would need to pay full tax when I buy the M2. If I trade for an STI I will pay no tax for the STI and then when I trade for the M2 I'll only pay tax on the difference in value. I could keep the F80 until then but it may drop significantly in value and I don't want to trade this car in particular to dealer I'm trying to keep a relationship with. STI will drop in value too but maybe only a little bit and I get to roll forward the tax advantage. And I get to try something new with a warranty for a year. |
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Forget depreciation on the M3, you were pot committed when you drove the car. Enjoy it till the M2
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10-03-2021, 12:15 AM | #38 |
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Have you tried multiple dealers in numerous states to get a trade-in value and with a 2022 M3 allocation?
Hang onto the car and keep emailing dealers about their interest in your F80 and their interest in getting you a G80. Cut out the middle man (aka STI) and work towards using your F80 as bargaining chip to get you an allocation on the G87 or G80 at a price beneficial to both. PS - my 2020 M4 has that wastegate rattle too with only 11xxx miles on the car...not a big deal and common complaint. Most people just deal with it
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Definitely hold out for your M2 or get a M3, I owned a 2005 STi and it was an amazing car, unfortunately, 17 years later all they have done is attempt to bring the car's refinement up to that of a BMW. I believe a 2022 STi has just about as much HP as my '05 did. I love Subaru, but believe the STi followed the pattern of the Nissan GTR (at a lower level of course), riding a platform for 10 years more than it should and not matching HP increases with the rest of the market. After driving a M4 I would never trade for an STi, in fact I would only pick up an STi as an addition for something to drive in the winter (still a fun car in the winter). Those days, however have long passed for me (three kids later :-) . An F150 for me and a GLS63 for the wife…need something you can pack in kids and all their crap
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