'18 ZCP 6MT - question and initial impressions

[joegie]

am i the only one who wants auto-rev in sport+? lol.

[KZEVO]

We each have our own preference and that's all good and i respect that

One of the great satisfaction of driving a manual is to heel-toe and when executed flawlessly, it feels very satisfying and engaging. That being taken away by BMW (if that's really what's happened) without any notice is very disappointing. Personally, being able to heel-toe was a big factor in going with the MT. otherwise, i would have picked up a CS.

I'll check on the drive home from work if its disabled with traction control off but i will not drive the car on public roads consistently and routinely with TC off.

May be this is BMW's way of getting people to slowly stop driving a MT car...conspiracy theory.... j/k

Originally Posted by joegie

am i the only one who wants auto-rev in sport+? lol.

[EricSMG]

Originally Posted by KZEVO

We each have our own preference and that's all good and i respect that

One of the great satisfaction of driving a manual is to heel-toe and when executed flawlessly, it feels very satisfying and engaging. That being taken away by BMW (if that's really what's happened) without any notice is very disappointing. Personally, being able to heel-toe was a big factor in going with the MT. otherwise, i would have picked up a CS.

I'll check on the drive home from work if its disabled with traction control off but i will not drive the car on public roads consistently and routinely with TC off.

May be this is BMW's way of getting people to slowly stop driving a MT car...conspiracy theory.... j/k

I don't heel/toe during normal driving. For me it's about having complete control of the throttle and driveline. I don't even like the hill assist to be honest. Yes, it's effective and very convenient but if I could turn it off I would.

The point of the manual is to be in full control of the machine.

[KZEVO]

Originally Posted by EricSMG

I don't heel/toe during normal driving. For me it's about having complete control of the throttle and driveline. I don't even like the hill assist to be honest. Yes, it's effective and very convenient but if I could turn it off I would.

The point of the manual is to be in full control of the machine.

Updated my original post. Auto-rev match is disabled in all three engine/throttle modes with TC off.

[joegie]

Originally Posted by KZEVO

We each have our own preference and that's all good and i respect that

One of the great satisfaction of driving a manual is to heel-toe and when executed flawlessly, it feels very satisfying and engaging. That being taken away by BMW (if that's really what's happened) without any notice is very disappointing. Personally, being able to heel-toe was a big factor in going with the MT. otherwise, i would have picked up a CS.

I'll check on the drive home from work if its disabled with traction control off but i will not drive the car on public roads consistently and routinely with TC off.

May be this is BMW's way of getting people to slowly stop driving a MT car...conspiracy theory.... j/k

yeah, it seems to be hit or miss, I've been driving the car in sport to test the auto-rev, sometimes it does it sometimes it doesn't.

I get where you're coming from with heel/toe, my last car I would do it out of habit/second nature, I guess I'm just lazy and the car will do it perfectly so why not. guess i'll start driving in sport+ more to fix my laziness

[sprokai]

Originally Posted by joegie

am i the only one who wants auto-rev in sport+? lol.

That wouldn't have turned me off the 6MT. Even after having numerous MT cars I never got the hang of heel-toe.

[Aaaaaaaaa]

Originally Posted by KZEVO

Updated my original post. Auto-rev match is disabled in all three engine/throttle modes with TC off.

That's just strange. Mine still rev matches with DSC off. Is this some new software version? I hope they don't update mine when I go in for service...

[EricSMG]

Originally Posted by pheerIx

That's just strange. Mine still rev matches with DSC off. Is this some new software version? I hope they don't update mine when I go in for service...

Exactly the same here.

And I had the same thought - heading in for run in service in a couple weeks and they better not jack this thing up.

Originally Posted by KZEVO

Updated my original post. Auto-rev match is disabled in all three engine/throttle modes with TC off.

"off" off or MDM? Or both? MDM would be okay and actually better than my setup as I don't like having permanent rev match in Eff/Sport today. Having to be in MDM to turn this off in all modes is an okay compromise.

Honestly - it's been warm and dry here and I've not had any traction issues at all. The TC virtually never intrudes and I drive this thing hard. I use MDM for the canyons and zero issues which leads me to believe that either A) BMW really, really dialed in the ZCP cars and/or B) people are overreacting about traction issues in the older cars (I suspect the former). I just don't see this motor overpowering the rear tires in anything but going WOT through a sharp turn... and even my 46M will get sideways doing that. The other thing is that the car is so damn fast AND responsive at part throttle in Sports+ that actual WOT is overkill in most situations even though WOT is 100% locked down and controllable. That's the beauty - you can use full power in this thing pretty much whenever you want assuming warm/dry conditions.

You guys driving this thing in Efficiency mode are seriously missing out - the car is totally different in Sports+.

[KZEVO]

Auto-rev match is disabled only when full traction control is switched off regardless of engine/throttle mode (efficiency, sports or sports plus). With MDM, auto-rev match stays on regardless of engine/throttle mode.

Further, a nearby dealership checked a '18 f80 6MT they have on their lot and it too has auto-rev match enabled in sports plus mode. There are no internal documents pointing to a change. We will have to see whether this gets resolved during break-in service.

Originally Posted by EricSMG

"off" off or MDM? Or both? MDM would be okay and actually better than my setup as I don't like having permanent rev match in Eff/Sport today. Having to be in MDM to turn this off in all modes is an okay compromise.
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[F1fan]

Originally Posted by KZEVO

Further, a nearby dealership checked a '18 f80 6MT they have on their lot and it too has auto-rev match enabled in sports plus mode. There are no internal documents pointing to a change. We will have to see whether this gets resolved during break-in service.

WHAT? I am in the minority in that I would prefer that rev-match function on Sports+. If BMW has enabled that through a software update that will address one of my biggest complaints about the car. Can anyone confirm whether older (mine is a '17) vehicles will now rev match in sport+ if the dealer loads in new software?

[Alan l.]

I thought I read on this forum they figured out a way to code auto rev match on for Sport+ mode. If that is the case then i would imagine you can code it off as well.

My 5/18 build ZCP does NOT auto rev match in Sport+

Alan

[KZEVO]

Are you past your 1200 mile break-in service? Wondering if you recall if it changed after the break-in service or it always was disengaged in sports plus from the start. thank you.

Originally Posted by Alan l.

I thought I read on this forum they figured out a way to code auto rev match on for Sport+ mode. If that is the case then i would imagine you can code it off as well.

My 5/18 build ZCP does NOT auto rev match in Sport+

Alan

[minn19]

Originally Posted by joegie

am i the only one who wants auto-rev in sport+? lol.

It's one of those odd things manufacturers restrict when it easily could be an option in iDrive. In this case BMW decided they knew best when to allow it and when not to. It would be nice to see this and ASD as simple on/off choices in iDrive so the owner with their own tastes can personalize the car to their liking.

[Alan l.]

Originally Posted by KZEVO

Are you past your 1200 mile break-in service? Wondering if you recall if it changed after the break-in service or it always was disengaged in sports plus from the start. thank you.

I just did my break in service and nothing changed. Auto rev match was always off in Sport+ before and after the service.

[minn19]

Originally Posted by Alan l.

I just did my break in service and nothing changed. Auto rev match was always off in Sport+ before and after the service.

I’m doing mine this evening. I’ll check on the way there and after to see if there is any difference. Mine is a really early 18 build, I believe August of 17 actually so I’m guessing it’ll be like the majority of everyone else’s.

[Aaaaaaaaa]

I'll be getting my 10k service soon. Crossing fingers the rev match behavior doesn't change.

[joegie]

i think mine is a 2/18 build date, purchased in june and still have not done break in service, i tested my sport+ driving home last night and it did not auto rev match.

[bringbacklsb]

Originally Posted by joegie

am i the only one who wants auto-rev in sport+? lol.

No

[hirev]

2016 m3 here, rev match not in sport plus ever....it works 98% of the time in other modes and I like it.

[YerrowNoodle]

Sometimes I regret not getting a ZCP

[Nikolas]

I get my 1200 mile service on Thursday. It better stay as is!

[alfonseexists]

Another 18 zcp manual owner here. Rev matching is off on sports plus regardless of traction control settings. Mine was a 12/17 build. Mine goes to red line quickly if I stomp on it. No hesitations. Feels strong throughout
I also could do without the burbles. If my car had rev matching in sports plus I would not have gotten it. I bought a manual for a reason. I rather love the art of performance driving and the engagement a manual brings.

Everything is codeable thankfully. The options available are incredible