BMW M4 Gets M Competition Package Standard Starting July 2019

[G35POPPEDMYCHERRY]

Originally Posted by Ibiza

Just like how SMB is now a standard metallic paint option since the F80 EOP. Patience pays off!

Was really pissed about this....like I woulda taken any blue, besides baby blue(yaz)..

i didnt know about the indv program. but i would never spedn 5k on special paint. its almost like they purposely released shit color because they know M buyers will use the individual program.

SMB on the f80 is str8 sex

[Blindside_137]

Interesting, my dad specifically got non-ZCP on his March 20 F82 build to retain lumbar seats. I guess now only lumbar is available on F83

[jmg]

Originally Posted by ///M4ster Yoda

I have a 2020 ZCP on order for a PCD delivery this summer. Saw this thread pop up and it sparked my interest. I am wondering how the pricing will play out. I've already contacted my CA and asked him to look into it.

If the base price doesn't go up by $4750 for these July-onward cars, I'm gonna be real pissed about my current order at the old base + ZCP price. They wouldn't let me order a 2019 in January even though production ended in February knowing the pricing was going to be better on the '19s, and now this bullshit. To top it off, I cancelled an ED for this May on another car I had a production # for because of shit ED pricing. BMW is really on my last nerve.

Edit: My car started production today. I guess I'm shit out of luck either way.

What's the cancellation policy on PCD cars? Can't you just cancel it like any other and renegotiate the price?

[///M4ster Yoda]

Originally Posted by jmg

What's the cancellation policy on PCD cars? Can't you just cancel it like any other and renegotiate the price?

Good Question. My current lease is ending and Ive been all over the place the last few months with my next car. My wife wants to kill me.

The issue with canceling is, if I do that, I might lose my $1000 deposit on the 2020 that just went into production. I signed a dealer form stating no refund (which I never do) figuring that there was no way I would cancel this order. The car literally went into production today so it's a May build which wouldn't count for the July "changes". I went online to the configurator for shit and giggles just to see if the ZCP was still and option and it is.

I wonder if BMW will just increase the base price to account for the ZCP being standard. My wife brought up a Good point earlier today when I got pissed that BMW isn't gonna give away $4700 worth of options for free. Maybe they are?

[TheBingoBalls]

Originally Posted by ///M4ster Yoda

I guess I'm shit out of luck either way.

Hope everything works out at the end for you.

But unfortunately, sometimes being an enthusiast on this forum can be a downfall - you learn things that are not quite public knowledge or learn of information way ahead of time. Despite what people think, dealerships do not have the level of information we, users of this forum, think they have.

You think the dealership hid these releases from you but I can guarantee that they really didn't know, or did not know enough to act on and give you a more informed decision.

While this information is not for RoW and is region specific, I can promise that the dealership I work closely with for purchases does not have as much of a hint of any of these changes. They might know that BMW might be simplifying packages, but they do not have a clear idea of what is included and the pricing to inform the customer. Best they could do is say wait it out. As a customer, if you really wanted a car and already had your mind made up of the options, are you really going to wait? Most are going to pull the trigger.

[///M4ster Yoda]

Originally Posted by TheBingoBalls

Hope everything works out at the end for you.

But unfortunately, sometimes being an enthusiast on this forum can be a downfall - you learn things that are not quite public knowledge or learn of information way ahead of time. Despite what people think, dealerships do not have the level of information we, users of this forum, think they have.

You think the dealership hid these releases from you but I can guarantee that they really didn't know, or did not know enough to act on and give you a more informed decision.

While this information is not for RoW and is region specific, I can promise that the dealership I work closely with for purchases does not have as much of a hint of any of these changes. They might know that BMW might be simplifying packages, but they do not have a clear idea of what is included and the pricing to inform the customer. Best they could do is say wait it out. As a customer, if you really wanted a car and already had your mind made up of the options, are you really going to wait? Most are going to pull the trigger.

Thanks. I agree. When I walk into a dealership especially a BMW dealership it's already a forgone conclusion that I know more about the cars then pretty much everyone there including the "genius's". These forums are a blessing and a curse for sure but I'm glad they are here and I didn't realize I missed them until I got back on today. Even my wife was like you should get back on Bimmerpost so we can get some good info

I'm happy with the car I ordered as it has every option I want. There isn't another car out there right now that checks all my boxes like the ///M4 does. Sporty, Fast, Fun to drive, 2 doors with room for my wife and son, German, RWD, decent tech. I'm sure there are a few more things I'm missing.

[TheBingoBalls]

Originally Posted by ///M4ster Yoda

These forums are a blessing and a curse for sure but I'm glad they are here

Agreed!

But with that said, as far as price goes, I don't think you'll be missing out on any "package discounts" if there are any. The M2 Competition got a bunch of stuff standard that were options on the base M2 BMW increased the price by about +/- $6,000 here in Canada. Assuming the July production of the MY2020 M4 will be similar, I don't think any one is going to be paying any sort of premium for buying today vs. getting a July allocation.

If this were a special edition, that would be a different story as I think BMW bundles everything on those cars at a discount - at least that's how it was for the 30 Jahre M3 and M5 where you only win if you were to add those options to begin with.

[khanyam4]

Awesome!

[minn19]

Originally Posted by G35POPPEDMYCHERRY

...to say the harmon kardon system is premium, or even causes a price increase is assine!!! but srsly I've never been let down so badly due to marketikng

I'd rather have one of the base systems and as you know from my other thread the HK isn't the easiest to replace/upgrade.

I don't think it is as bad as you, but it isn't great that's for sure. But then again no stock system really is nowadays.

[DML]

Originally Posted by Ibiza

Just like how SMB is now a standard metallic paint option since the F80 EOP. Patience pays off!

My best advice for anyone interested in the brand, WAIT!! Pretty brutal when given some thought

[secretanchitman]

I’m not sure how to feel about this - I mean the vast majority of customers do enjoy the ZCP but I’m one of the few who prefer the F82 stock/non-ZCP due to price, 19" silver wheels, lack of black trim, lumbar support, etc.

I was seriously considering an F82 because of the slowly confirming rumors of the G80/G82 having awful large grills but now who knows. Dammit BMW this is super annoying…

[Ibiza]

I highly doubt that BMW NA is going to give the ZCP away as a 'free' option. Expect a few thousand price increase, otherwise the used ZCP car market would take a hit, including the MY 2017 and shortly MY 2018 ZCP's would put BMW FS underwater with these models coming off lease, as the residuals would be over inflated.

Pricing hasn't been announced for any of today's changes across the BMW NA model portfolio. ///M4ster Yoda I wouldn't worry to much about it, as we can't win all the battles, just enjoy the new F82.

[///M4ster Yoda]

Originally Posted by Ibiza

I highly doubt that BMW NA is going to give the ZCP away as a 'free' option. Expect a few thousand price increase, otherwise the used ZCP car market would take a hit, including the MY 2017 and shortly MY 2018 ZCP's would put BMW FS underwater with these models coming off lease, as the residuals would be over inflated.

Pricing hasn't been announced for any of today's changes across the BMW NA model portfolio. ///M4ster Yoda I wouldn't worry to much about it, as we can't win all the battles, just enjoy the new F82.

Yeah man. Thanks. I'm just gonna enjoy my car. It's my 1st PCD so that should be something cool and different.

[Reddevils7]

When is the F82 going out of production? I turn in my non-ZCP lease in December 2020 and really want to get a new ZCP F82, but I'm not sure if there will be any left at that time.

[///M4ster Yoda]

Originally Posted by Reddevils7

When is the F82 going out of production? I turn in my non-ZCP lease in December 2020 and really want to get a new ZCP F82, but I'm not sure if there will be any left at that time.

End of spring 2020. So you have a little over a year left before production ends.

[brocurls]

Sigh...I hope I don't regret not waiting, ordered this car in April.

[BMthusiast]

Originally Posted by Reddevils7

When is the F82 going out of production? I turn in my non-ZCP lease in December 2020 and really want to get a new ZCP F82, but I'm not sure if there will be any left at that time.

End of production for F82 is June, 2020 (M4 CS ends in Feb). F83 ends Oct, 2020.

[bimmer456]

HiFi is wack for such an expensive car - HK should be standard.

[allen3ybq]

Get a SMB M4 basically you are saving $10k instantly comparing to the earlier buyers.

[PARTS@STBMW]

Well done BMW, well done.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by Ibiza

I highly doubt that BMW NA is going to give the ZCP away as a 'free' option. Expect a few thousand price increase, otherwise the used ZCP car market would take a hit, including the MY 2017 and shortly MY 2018 ZCP's would put BMW FS underwater with these models coming off lease, as the residuals would be over inflated.

Pricing hasn't been announced for any of today's changes across the BMW NA model portfolio. ///M4ster Yoda I wouldn't worry to much about it, as we can't win all the battles, just enjoy the new F82.

" no cost options " happen ..

The simple fact is .. after selling Adaptive suspension as an upgrade .. they are simply making it a no cost option. We've seen this a ton, Even items like sunroof/moonroof become a no cost option or another example is lighting technology with HID, LED, and even OLED trickling down.

More than likely , rather than buying two suspension systems from suppliers .. they simply discontinued ordering the non adaptive set. With this change to the M4 .. I would expect BMW to likely use their remaining non adaptive stock on M2 until they run out . At that point a running change on the M2 (beginning with M2 CS ?) could occur to phase out the non adaptive stock and they can then announce adaptive only for all M2 as a "2020 model update " cool:

It appears LCI has been replaced by model updates... back in the day it would be 2019 and 2019.5 models.

[DML]

Originally Posted by Ibiza

I highly doubt that BMW NA is going to give the ZCP away as a 'free' option. Expect a few thousand price increase, otherwise the used ZCP car market would take a hit, including the MY 2017 and shortly MY 2018 ZCP's would put BMW FS underwater with these models coming off lease, as the residuals would be over inflated.

Pricing hasn't been announced for any of today's changes across the BMW NA model portfolio. ///M4ster Yoda I wouldn't worry to much about it, as we can't win all the battles, just enjoy the new F82.

Thinking maybe 1K less, BMW free inclusion? Yeah right.