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History suggests that LCI will happen MY2016 with the F30 & F32. I predict that ZCP will be released with MY2016/MY2017.
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12-26-2013, 07:21 AM | #91 | |
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You can buy used ZCP rims, get springs for pretty cheap and get someone to code Euro MDM. Is it easier to just get ZCP from factory, absolutely. But my budget and color choice meant I was stuck with an 08. Like I said though, if it's E9x style ZCP, then it's not a deal breaker. If it's M5/6 style where the changes are in the guts of the car, then that's a deal breaker for me. So many journalists were saying how ZCP is how the M5/6 should have come from factory, whereas E9x they were saying the difference was not big.
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12-26-2013, 07:33 AM | #92 |
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Disagree on suspension. The zcp suspenion is not "springs", it's new springs and matched shorter dampers. Zcp for the e9x was the only way to lower your car with no compromise to ride quality outside of something very expensive like Ohlins coilovers. Springs are not at all the same as competition package suspension, and are far inferior for ride quality and handling. I probably will look to retrofit comp suspenion as soon as I can on my 2015 m3. I have it on my 09 e92 and love it |
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12-26-2013, 12:27 PM | #94 |
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I think I've mentioned before... The F25 needs its LCI first, before any F30. The F25 LCI will be MY2015, so the F30/F80 can get an LCI for MY2016. No way the F25/F30 would share the same MY for LCI, as the F25 came out a year earlier than the F30.
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12-26-2013, 12:36 PM | #95 | |
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Combined with the slightly more aggressive offset of the wheels, ZCP gave a subtle but nice lower and wider stance to the car.
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12-26-2013, 12:37 PM | #96 | |
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The shocks are absolutely different, I know because I looked into sourcing them from BMW. Yes people use kw, but that doesn't mean it's a great suspension setup for street and track. It rides worse. The only kit I've used that doesn't is the Ohlins rt. but that's off topic. |
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12-26-2013, 12:38 PM | #97 | |
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also there are people like me who bought this car to have a warranty and keep everything OEM for daily driving purpose. with that said. i love the better looking rims and extra suspension gear. as i don't plan to mod the car. i wanted all i could get from factory |
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Well that's good to know. I figured that BMW sourced the same EDC shock for both cars. I could have sworn the part number from my E90's EDC shock was the same as my E92's EDC shock. Ah well! Quote:
So the EDC E9X shocks were the same as the 1M shocks???? P.S. The ZCP drop still wasn't enough for me. My car was lowered the next day. ![]() |
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So back to my post #46.... ...I was saying that EDC-equipped ZCP cars had the same shocks, which aajami then retorted that they were the same as the 1M??!! I recalled (..correctly I believe!) the part numbers being the same on my EDC-equipped ZCP and EDC-equipped non ZCP cars. That was the point that I was trying to make. |
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12-26-2013, 01:11 PM | #101 | |
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No I'm not. What I'm saying is that you could get a ZCP M3 with EDC and without. I was stating that ZCP cars with EDC had the same shocks as the EDC cars without ZCP, hence the difference really only being the springs (..and the wheels and MDM). Read post #45 and #46 again!
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![]() I don't have time to look up the PNs now, but I'll do it later, though I'm almost certain that they will be different. You're my boy, Sedan Clan ![]()
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12-26-2013, 01:26 PM | #104 | |
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Zcp was only available with edc shocks I almost bought the shocks and had oem edc. The part numbers were not the same Anyway, let's get back to our regularly scheduled program of arguing about the s55 and s65 and bashing earl and ezio ![]() |
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12-26-2013, 01:47 PM | #105 |
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Yes and no, and this is where things can get confusing. ZCP in the US was only offered with EDC, but since the ZCP shocks were the same ones that were available on the non-ZCP JDM M3, and since the non-ZCP JDM M3 was offered with and without EDC, it is possible to source non-EDC ZCP shocks from overseas vendors if you had the right PN.
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What I'm trying to say is that I've had M3's with EDC.....two that didn't have ZCP and one that did. I had to have the front passenger side EDC shock/module replaced on one of the non-ZCP cars, and I could have sworn that the part number was the same as that of my ZCP's EDC shocks. That's what I meant about the shocks on EDC cars being the same, ZCP or not. I might have transposed a number or something, so I could be wrong (..and I fully expect to be called on it....after all, it's the Bimmerpost way ![]() I do agree though........ ...back to bashing Ezio and Earl (...although I did start to sympathize with the latter a bit; he was tugging on my heart strings just a tad). It's much more fun than the technical drivel we all usually involve ourselves in when it comes to specs. ![]() |
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