Carsten Pries of BMW M: the M3/M4 S55 engine is an animal with shocking capabilities

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Real Deal

I have yet to see a commercial on TV... So where are the hype? Corporate? Sure that is normal, BMW websites? Well duh!! It's a business, businesses change and adapt to what's around them. Different times, different marketing crew and mind set...

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[elitex]

Originally Posted by Real Deal

I have yet to see a commercial on TV... So where are the hype? Corporate? Sure that is normal, BMW websites? Well duh!! It's a business, businesses change and adapt to what's around them. Different times, different marketing crew and mind set...

agree with you there.

[dlbrooks18]

Do we have official Nurburgring times yet?

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by dlbrooks18

Do we have official Nurburgring times yet?

Not specific times, but estimated figures...."more than 10 seconds faster than the E9X around the N'Ring".

[fbm3cab]

Isn't the reason it seems like there is more hype now because forums, social media and web based reviews/articles are so much more popular and active now compared to 7 years ago? Practically free advertising.

I drove a comp package M6 around a track a few months back and the car was a animal, way faster then the M3, the torque was shocking. The M3/4 will be the same but better because its smaller size, weight and the time BMW has had to improve on this new tech.

[Real Deal]

Originally Posted by elitex

agree with you there.

Here is a disclaimer, I am not a BMW fan boy. I have driven and owned many different brands of cars, BMW is by far has been MY best experience (that is my opinion). I will be getting either the Z06 next year or the c63 amg depending on the reviews as well when the time comes so my brain is not just a BMW brain lol... I give props to a car and company when it's due. MB is changing and I believe they will push BMW to also change for the better, the more competition the better it will be for all of us consumers.

[dlbrooks18]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Not specific times, but estimated figures...."more than 10 seconds faster than the E9X around the N'Ring".

Thanks

[RealStig]

Originally Posted by Real Deal

Here is a disclaimer, I am not a BMW fan boy. I have driven and owned many different brands of cars, BMW is by far has been MY best experience (that is my opinion). I will be getting either the Z06 next year or the c63 amg depending on the reviews as well when the time comes so my brain is not just a BMW brain lol... I give props to a car and company when it's due. MB is changing and I believe they will push BMW to also change for the better, the more competition the better it will be for all of us consumers.

So you are buying an M3 now and camg/z06 next year?

[Real Deal]

Originally Posted by RealStig

So you are buying an M3 now and camg/z06 next year?

Yes sir, the better half agreed so it's on like donkey kong. She doesn't like the 650 so we ll split time between the two cars M3 for sure and it's either Z06 or AMG But we saw the z06 at the DC car show and she wasn't too crazy about it so we ll have to wait till the new C63 is out.

[imserious]

400 torque @ less than 2000 rpms is going to make this M3/4 drive more like a corvette and less like the M3s of the past.

folks will be surprised because it is going to be a new experience. fortunately, i expect it will be a rather good one.

[Real Deal]

Originally Posted by imserious

400 torque @ less than 2000 rpms is going to make this M3/4 drive more like a corvette and less like the M3s of the past.

folks will be surprised because it is going to be a new experience. fortunately, i expect it will be a rather good one.

Come on now, all the non believers will be flaming you lol.

[RealStig]

Originally Posted by imserious

400 torque @ less than 2000 rpms is going to make this M3/4 drive more like a corvette and less like the M3s of the past.

folks will be surprised because it is going to be a new experience. fortunately, i expect it will be a rather good one.

Corvette has 630 lb/ft torque and weighs less than the m4. Dont get me wrong, I am super excited about the new car but i think the 100 or so lb/ft torque increase is just a bit over rated.

I am more excited about the interior and overall tech improvements like the HUD.

[Real Deal]

Originally Posted by Prince_of_Persia

I bought my car after seeing all independent reviews and test driving it myself.

Your too responsible, call me a gambler. I guess you will buy one in 8 months and sell your car :-)

[FogCityM3]

Was the corporate hype at this level when the E9x generation came out? I can't remember it being as intense. They just released the car and that was it, let the reviews provide the advertising magic. Now you've got development videos, footage of race drivers opining on the car's 'development', BMW making blog posts, german guys using words like "animal" (kind of scary come to think of it).

[Real Deal]

Originally Posted by FogCityM3

Was the corporate hype at this level when the E9x generation came out? I can't remember it being as intense. They just released the car and that was it, let the reviews provide the advertising magic. Now you've got development videos, footage of race drivers opining on the car's 'development', BMW making blog posts, german guys using words like "animal" (kind of scary come to think of it).

7 years ago vs now, Geezus why is it so hard for people to move along when there is change? It's 2014, technology will only advance faster and become better so will advertising techniques. Everyone talks about BMW as if they are a charity, they are a business and just like any business they are here to make $$. Looks at all the brands that are successful, they advertise you to death until it's imbedded in our brain.

[Jockey]

Originally Posted by FogCityM3

Was the corporate hype at this level when the E9x generation came out? I can't remember it being as intense. They just released the car and that was it, let the reviews provide the advertising magic. Now you've got development videos, footage of race drivers opining on the car's 'development', BMW making blog posts, german guys using words like "animal" (kind of scary come to think of it).

While car forums existed in 2007, social media was not in the same state of affairs as it is today. This is honestly no real surprise.

[ezmaass]

No one is ready for this engine? Come now... too much marketing speak. I believe it'll be remarkable like past M tunes, bit to say nobody will be ready for it? Well, that better be a jet engine powered by a quantum computer putting out 1,000hp... then I'd agree NOBODY would have been ready for that!

[Rupes]

Not to be, "that guy," but it sure would be refreshing to get some analysis on the M cars from people who aren't in someway compensated by the company that makes the car. I dunno, call me crazy...

[RealStig]

Originally Posted by Jockey

While car forums existed in 2007, social media was not in the same state of affairs as it is today. This is honestly no real surprise.

Jockey,

You have a good point, but don't you think the same social media/different times argument would/should apply to other car manufacturers such as GM for Corvette, Mercedes for AMG, or Audi for RS5? None of those brands have this level of advertising material being published across the web. I think what these other guys are trying to say is, this time around BMW is trying to sell these cars to people whereas in the past, the cars sold themselves.

I have an order on the new M3 and I'm not attached to my current car in anyway before you flame me, I was just providing a different perspective.

I also love the new car and cannot wait to drive one.

[Jockey]

I understand what your saying, but I honestly think it's an over-exaggeration by some of the forum members here.

I think BMW is smart. They put out all of this info and we lap it up. Then we ask for more. And more, etc.

I can in no way fault BMW for selling their car. A lot of people seem to forget that BMW is in the business to make money. So why not put out as much info as possible about this car and garner as much attention as possible?

[Real Deal]

So cars sold on their own to a few enthusiast... BMW now wants to capitalize on the market and triple their revenue... Wow what a concept, making money :-)

[clar]

Just wondering what animal it would be. A wartog is an animal too u know...