Tracking with NT05 as opposed to RS3/RS4 or RE11/RE71

slowpoke247 · 02-22-2019, 01:55 PM

But people still track the PSS. I was under the impression the OP was asking about the NT05 street tire, not the NT05R.

PayamFSU · 02-22-2019, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by slowpoke247

But people still track the PSS. I was under the impression the OP was asking about the NT05 street tire, not the NT05R.

I am talking about the NT05 street not the drag radial nT05R. People that "track" the PSS don't push the car hard because that tire can't handle heat. I would rate tires in terms of track performance like this:

NT01 > RE-71 > RS4 > NT05 > PSS

Caliboy951 · 02-22-2019, 05:23 PM

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Anyone track an F80 or other bimmer with the NT05. I have ran RS3 in the past on a M235i and had great experiences. I was thinking RS4 on the F80 but am limited to 265/35/18 and 285/35 in the RS4. I can either run the NT05 265/35 and 285/35 or I can run a 275/35/18 and 295/35. The NT05 is cheaper but is it comparable to the old RS3 in terms of wear and grip? It is still an extreme pefermonace tire, but I assume it less desirable than an RE71 or RS4.

I am hesitant to run NT01 275 and 305 combo that everyone runs becuse I am on stock suspension and with my track experience I do not know if I am comfortable moving up to an R comp tire yet.

My car would be stock except for brake fluid, pads, and whatever tires I choose. Thanks guys!

Go NT01 and get better grip! Experienced or not the NT01 is a great tire to learn with then go full slicks. I ran NT01 as I was doing the majority of my set-up then went Pirelli P-Zero slicks.

I'd also add stainless brake lines to your car.

chetrickerman · 02-22-2019, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Caliboy951

Go NT01 and get better grip! Experienced or not the NT01 is a great tire to learn with then go full slicks. I ran NT01 as I was doing the majority of my set-up then went Pirelli P-Zero slicks.

I'd also add stainless brake lines to your car.

I always heard that its not good to learn on a R-comp tire since it will cover up things that you should learn.

CRRobert · 02-22-2019, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by PayamFSU

I am talking about the NT05 street not the drag radial nT05R. People that "track" the PSS don't push the car hard because that tire can't handle heat. I would rate tires in terms of track performance like this:

NT01 > RE-71 > RS4 > NT05 > PSS

Where would you slot the PSC2 and 888/888R in there?

Caliboy951 · 02-23-2019, 07:52 AM

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I always heard that its not good to learn on a R-comp tire since it will cover up things that you should learn.

I disagree, I think the better grip you have the more you can focus on learning the race line and less worry of getting loose.

onefastdoc · 02-23-2019, 10:05 AM

Different platform but I had the NT05 on my E90 M3 and they were ok. I used to autocross with those tires. Not the best but not the worst. On my GT-R I’ve had the PSS and NT01. The NT01 is an amazing tire. Doesn’t last very long but the grip is really unbelievable. Much more grip than the PSS (as expected), but noisy and be prepared to replace them after 7,000 miles. I don’t mind doing that so I stick with the NT01 tires.

chetrickerman · 02-23-2019, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Caliboy951

I disagree, I think the better grip you have the more you can focus on learning the race line and less worry of getting loose.

Very good point

PayamFSU · 02-23-2019, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by CRRobert

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Originally Posted by PayamFSU

I am talking about the NT05 street not the drag radial nT05R. People that "track" the PSS don't push the car hard because that tire can't handle heat. I would rate tires in terms of track performance like this:

NT01 > RE-71 > RS4 > NT05 > PSS

Where would you slot the PSC2 and 888/888R in there?

I don't have experience with them but assuming somewhere around the NT01 and slightly better than RE-71. Also just to clarify this is all in regards to dry performance and grip. Not talking about tread life or wet traction at all.

slowpoke247 · 02-25-2019, 09:40 PM

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I disagree, I think the better grip you have the more you can focus on learning the race line and less worry of getting loose.

Well that statement just tipped the scales for me. Found a good deal and picking up some R888R tomorrow

You won't happen to be going to buttonwillow this weekend would you???

Caliboy951 · 03-02-2019, 10:51 PM

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Well that statement just tipped the scales for me. Found a good deal and picking up some R888R tomorrow

You won't happen to be going to buttonwillow this weekend would you???

No I wont, I just got back from China this evening. I will be back there very soon to test some changes.

ineedae46m3 · 08-21-2019, 11:37 AM

Back from the dead but I am the OP. I have run the NT05 on my stock F80 for 10 days or so now. Flip mounted the fronts. Still not corded.

Managed a few 2:16s at Watkins Glen with these tires and had worn PFC08s in MDM mode, so needless to say I am happy with the tires.

I don’t know if they will make it through my next 3 day event, probably will but I don’t want to risk it and am actually contemplating buying another set.

So wear rate, very impressed.

Dry traction I would say pretty similar to the RS3.

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slowpoke247 Private First Class 45 Rep 131 Posts Drives: daily Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: socal OC iTrader: (3) Garage List 2016 BMW/M3 F80 [0.00]	But people still track the PSS. I was under the impression the OP was asking about the NT05 street tire, not the NT05R.
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onefastdoc Lieutenant 115 Rep 424 Posts Drives: 2016 F80 M3 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: L.A. iTrader: (2)	Different platform but I had the NT05 on my E90 M3 and they were ok. I used to autocross with those tires. Not the best but not the worst. On my GT-R I’ve had the PSS and NT01. The NT01 is an amazing tire. Doesn’t last very long but the grip is really unbelievable. Much more grip than the PSS (as expected), but noisy and be prepared to replace them after 7,000 miles. I don’t mind doing that so I stick with the NT01 tires.
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ineedae46m3 Lieutenant 105 Rep 441 Posts Drives: F80 M3 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: NY iTrader: (1)	Back from the dead but I am the OP. I have run the NT05 on my stock F80 for 10 days or so now. Flip mounted the fronts. Still not corded. Managed a few 2:16s at Watkins Glen with these tires and had worn PFC08s in MDM mode, so needless to say I am happy with the tires. I don’t know if they will make it through my next 3 day event, probably will but I don’t want to risk it and am actually contemplating buying another set. So wear rate, very impressed. Dry traction I would say pretty similar to the RS3.
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