Michelin Pilot Sport 4S

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by Ed_rx7

Sorry if I’ve missed it in a post but is the MP4s wider than the PSS size for size?

It is the opposite.

According to TireRack measurements, in generic sizes, usually the PS4S is either the same tread width or slightly narrower than the same sized PSS. This will vary with manufacturer specific tires.

[chetman7]

Took a while to skim through this..but it was sometimes hard to follow as some didnt state their wheel specs with their wheel combo

I'm currently running 19x9 and 19x10 running 255/275 at stock height

Seems like my options are of course the stock 255/275 or going up to 265/285.
Seems the general consensus is an increase in overall grip but am I sacrificing anything by upsizing to the 265/285 combo? I'm assuming increase in tire weight on a street Car is negligible . What about the handling department?

[aboulfad]

Originally Posted by chetman7

Took a while to skim through this..but it was sometimes hard to follow as some didnt state their wheel specs with their wheel combo

I'm currently running 19x9 and 19x10 running 255/275 at stock height

Seems like my options are of course the stock 255/275 or going up to 265/285.
Seems the general consensus is an increase in overall grip but am I sacrificing anything by upsizing to the 265/285 combo? I'm assuming increase in tire weight on a street Car is negligible . What about the handling department?

I have the 265/285 combo on the stock 19", I have about 500kms on them and can't notice or feel anything bad or sacrificing anything except what I posted above about looks. Though by now I realize sporty meaty tires look like that.

I have recently upped the psi to 35 on all 4 from 32 to see if there's any difference in handling.

[Thespaz18]

I'm going to be switching to MPS4S on the 437M wheels and cannot bring myself to run 265 up front due to the donut look. Will 255/285 combo work without issue? Will 285 over 275 in the rear make that much difference?

[gatorfast]

Originally Posted by Thespaz18

I'm going to be switching to MPS4S on the 437M wheels and cannot bring myself to run 265 up front due to the donut look. Will 255/285 combo work without issue? Will 285 over 275 in the rear make that much difference?

Yes 255/285 will work just fine and yes 285 rear makes a difference as it is a good bit wider than the 275 tire. I run this exact setup in the 18" version (255/40/18 and 285/40/18).

[swagon]

Originally Posted by gatorfast

Yes 255/285 will work just fine and yes 285 rear makes a difference as it is a good bit wider than the 275 tire. I run this exact setup in the 18" version (255/40/18 and 285/40/18).

Is that on 513M's?

[gatorfast]

Originally Posted by swagon

Is that on 513M's?

Yes

[Thespaz18]

Originally Posted by gatorfast

Yes 255/285 will work just fine and yes 285 rear makes a difference as it is a good bit wider than the 275 tire. I run this exact setup in the 18" version (255/40/18 and 285/40/18).

Originally Posted by gatorfast

Yes 255/285 will work just fine and yes 285 rear makes a difference as it is a good bit wider than the 275 tire. I run this exact setup in the 18" version (255/40/18 and 285/40/18).

Thanks for the info. Have any pics for reference?

[aboulfad]

Originally Posted by Thespaz18

I'm going to be switching to MPS4S on the 437M wheels and cannot bring myself to run 265 up front due to the donut look. Will 255/285 combo work without issue? Will 285 over 275 in the rear make that much difference?

I know I made a fuss about the look when I first saw the combo 265/285 on my 19" 437M (pics above), but honestly never thought about it for a second after that initial encounter. I actually like them now and they handle well.

FYI, the tread width difference between the PS4S 255 and 265 is 0.7". Personally, it was the rears that I noticed the "donut" factor more than the fronts.

[swagon]

Originally Posted by gatorfast

Yes

Cool, could you please snap some pics for me as to how the 4S's look on them.

[fknlo]

I like the meaty look of the 265/285 PS4S over the stretched look of the stock size Pirelli run flats mine had before them.

[gatorfast]

Originally Posted by swagon

Cool, could you please snap some pics for me as to how the 4S's look on them.

Sorry I should clarify. I run a 255/40 285/40 size combo but not the 4S (these tires are not available in these sizes). I run the Continental ECS tires.

[swagon]

Originally Posted by gatorfast

Sorry I should clarify. I run a 255/40 285/40 size combo but not the 4S (these tires are not available in these sizes). I run the Continental ECS tires.

Just checked. I cannot get neither of those tires in Europe. PS4S in 19's only and ECS only in the US.

[lvevo]

Originally Posted by swagon

Just checked. I cannot get neither of those tires in Europe. PS4S in 19's only and ECS only in the US.

There is a PS4S equivalent in Europe, at least that is what I read from an article. Goodyear F1 Super Sport. This tire is not available in the USA so I can't speak of how good it is.

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Go...SuperSport.htm

[swagon]

Originally Posted by lvevo

There is a PS4S equivalent in Europe, at least that is what I read from an article. Goodyear F1 Super Sport. This tire is not available in the USA so I can't speak of how good it is.

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Go...SuperSport.htm

Yup! Those are apparently delayed. In the meantime, I have got new rear OEM PSS.

They have got a review on that website, too.

[TideMD]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

The PS4S will most probably be a much better tire than the PSS.

What I am saying is that we still need more date to figure which is the best size/spec to fit on our cars and and what size /spec offers over another.

I'm close to needing new rear tires - currently have the 265/285 35-19 set up in PS4S.

Is the slightly wider M5 spec PSS 295/35-19 worth swapping back to the PSS? Or is the general consensus that overall advancements negate the slightly narrower tread width of the 285/35 PS4S?

[LAKERS333]

Originally Posted by TideMD

I'm close to needing new rear tires - currently have the 265/285 35-19 set up in PS4S.

Is the slightly wider M5 spec PSS 295/35-19 worth swapping back to the PSS? Or is the general consensus that overall advancements negate the slightly narrower tread width of the 285/35 PS4S?

I'm on my 2nd pair of rear 285/35/19 of the PS4S and I previously had the M5 295/35 PSS tires. I would not go back, the slightly narrower 285/35 PS4S is so much better than the old Pilot Sports.

Just make the switch and you wont be disappointed with the grip of the PS4S, so much better of a tire I think.

[TideMD]

Originally Posted by LAKERS333

I'm on my 2nd pair of rear 285/35/19 of the PS4S and I previously had the M5 295/35 PSS tires. I would not go back, the slightly narrower 285/35 PS4S is so much better than the old Pilot Sports.

Just make the switch and you wont be disappointed with the grip of the PS4S, so much better of a tire I think.

Thanks for the info. I've been running the PS4S, but hadn't found anyone commenting on a direct comparison of the 285/35 4S and the 295/35 PSS. Looks like I'll slap on another round of the 4Ss soon.

Thanks again.

[apexM4]

Looking for some help with tires and spacers, I’m on the fence about some tires that I’ll be ordering here in the next few days.

I’ve read a couple threads for the 437M wheels and the general consensus seems to be:
1. 265M0 F / 295* R 35/19 MPSS
2. 265 F / 285 R /35/19 MPS4S

I recently found this thread and after a lot of reading I’m wondering, at this point which set up would you guys recommend, and spacer options at these sizes. I’ve seen on most threads people suggesting anywhere from 12mm all around, 10mm all around, and even 7 or 8mm all around.

I would like a nice full/ aggressive look but absolutely no rubbing.

[chetman7]

Seeking advice
I had been set on purchasing 265/35 and 285/35 in 19s for the wheels 9 and 10 width

Ordered them several weeks ago. Was. Notified by Michelin that there is nothing for at least another month. They said 1000 tires will be available in a month for distribution throughout the county. He wasnt able to tell me if those tires are all accounted to fill current orders. So I have no idea how many back orders were placed before mine.

Looking for a backup plan/next best thing. I was thinking of just going back to 255/275 as they are in stock or is there any other tire I should be cross shopping available in 265/285. This is strictly daily driver with rainy summers

Dont know too much about this stuff but are the 285 4s worth waiting for instead of going 275.

[NotACarGuy]

Originally Posted by chetman7

Seeking advice
I had been set on purchasing 265/35 and 285/35 in 19s for the wheels 9 and 10 width

Ordered them several weeks ago. Was. Notified by Michelin that there is nothing for at least another month. They said 1000 tires will be available in a month for distribution throughout the county. He wasnt able to tell me if those tires are all accounted to fill current orders. So I have no idea how many back orders were placed before mine.

Looking for a backup plan/next best thing. I was thinking of just going back to 255/275 as they are in stock or is there any other tire I should be cross shopping available in 265/285. This is strictly daily driver with rainy summers

Dont know too much about this stuff but are the 285 4s worth waiting for instead of going 275.

I just dealt with this same situation the last few days - needed one new 285 tire and Tire Rack was sold out. Upon calling them they told me something similar to the answer you got from Michelin (except in my case they said it could be as long as 60 days before they get inventory).

Try calling local tire shops, I'm in the bay area in CA and I was able to get one from a local shop - he told me at least a couple of his suppliers had this in stock.

Can't comment on 255/275 vs 265/285 Michelin 4S tires, but I can say that my 255/275 Continentals pretty much sucked compared to my current 265/285 4S setup - always breaking loose especially in the wet. Now car hooks up pretty good. Very noticeable difference on the track as well.

Edit: current setup is 265/285 not 265/295

[Keca10]

I heard 4 month back order for 285/30R20