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      12-21-2013, 11:40 AM   #23
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Normally for every 1000 in options u pay 30 A month...so if msrp is 65000 then that's 7x30 or 210 a month less.. Seems realistic
Good point, But wouldn't you think the M4 would be in the 70's?
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      12-22-2013, 05:19 PM   #24
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With base no options it would be mid 60s or so... We won't know until they release pricing
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The car is going to cost 8k or more than the current model. It will not have a residual that is better than 52-55%. If you do the math, for a base model with 0 down, with taxes included, you are looking at a payment of 900-950. Add any options, that will go up easily.

You can forget about leasing an M3/M4 for at least 1-1.5 years unless you are extremely stupid in your finances and want the M badge so badly.

The leases on M cars have been like this since the beginning of time. My M3 is fully loaded with every option including rear sun shade and my payment is 850/month. When I was signing the papers, there was a guy who was returning his lease, he had a 2008 M3, one of the first ones, his monthly was 1100/month and he didn't have nowhere near as many options (plus there werent as many options back then to begin with like competition package or bluetooth integration). Same thing with E60 and F10 M5. That should tell you how lease rates are at the beginning.
8k increase over the current msrp of 2013s is EXTREMELY unlikely.
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      12-24-2013, 11:20 AM   #26
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600s? i think people are dreaming. I think 800-900 at least. It's a brand new car. it will be marked up, increased money factors, & normal residuals (not the inflated crap bmw usually does.)\

Just look at the lease prices on the 435s. Their still high. I doubt the m3/m4 will lease near the 3/4 35
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      12-24-2013, 11:23 AM   #27
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8k increase over the current msrp of 2013s is EXTREMELY unlikely.
according to who? a $5k-$8k increase can happen easily imo. M5/m6 went up something like $10k+. BMW pricing has gone out the window. Especially when you start adding options.
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I pay $680.\/month for my '13 M3 that was $68K MSRP and this was with $0 Down. Sign and drive lease... I highly doubt the M3/M4 will lease this low, but could be possible with the right incentives

Florida BMW dealers were practically giving these cars ('12, '13) away last year, no? I've heard less.
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      12-25-2013, 10:16 AM   #29
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For either msd or cap reduction... We will see what prices are like and once the orders slow down we should see some discounts to msrp and also if you qualify for incentives that should help too.. M5 have some serious discounts right now.. Like 15-20k off.. Of course that's off a higher msrp, but if you time it right like the poster that did sign and drive, I'm sure it can be possible
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according to who? a $5k-$8k increase can happen easily imo. M5/m6 went up something like $10k+. BMW pricing has gone out the window. Especially when you start adding options.
M5 price was not raised at all and was essentially flat
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My guess is low-mid 800's with $5k down
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Heres my best guess, when the M4 comes out I think the residual will be low 50's or possible high 40's. For one your gonna be missing out on a lot of fun options I think you'll regret not getting. But, 600's may be possible with 4k down and a low MSRP with you either getting a great discount on ED or Discount on MSRP. It may be possible but be prepared to call a lot of dealers and get laughed at. When these cars come out mostly every one will be either paying MSRP or getting a small discount. My best advice would be to wait until the hype is down, maybe wait 6-12 months after its released and grab one cheap. This is based on personal experience. I was one of the first 5 in Florida to grab a F10 M5. When they first came out you couldn't get one under less then 1600-2100 a month. Now you can swing one for 1200-1400 easy.
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      12-28-2013, 05:59 AM   #34
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Man, if you manage to pull that one off, please share with the rest if the class here)...I'm doing it too. Good luck
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My information is a 2nd hand info from a business owner friend.

He didn't put anything down on his M6 because it was easier to write off his monthly payment over trying to distribute the down payment over the life of the lease. Also, he did 7 MSD(I think that is the max allowance) to lower his interest rate.
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To the OP, dont put that kind of money down on a lease. Keep it in the bank to subsidize your payments over the lease period. You get nothing in return putting that kind of money down. If the car is totalled you will kill that money goodbye. Only come in with the amount necessary to get into the lease and thats it.

That being said BMW leases are pretty bad on M cars when they first come out. Low residuals and terrible money factors. I remember when the E92 M3 came out and the dealer quoted me $1100 per month for a low optioned M3 coupe, when I could get a then new 07 997S PCar for $1141 for the same amount of down...went with the PCar.

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