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      10-22-2019, 08:54 AM   #1
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Spun Crank Hub with BM3

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I spun my crank hub last night. I was wondering if anyone that has run BM3 has been able to successfully warranty it. Im going to put it back to stock shortly. Just need to figure out if I can get away with flashing it back to stock or if I would need to get new ecu? Or maybe there is another alternative..


If anyone has similar stories feel free to share. Need as much info as I can get.
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Hi,

I spun my crank hub last night. I was wondering if anyone that has run BM3 has been able to successfully warranty it. Im going to put it back to stock shortly. Just need to figure out if I can get away with flashing it back to stock or if I would need to get new ecu? Or maybe there is another alternative..


If anyone has similar stories feel free to share. Need as much info as I can get.
Well you were aware of the risks so just pay for the repair out of pocket. The dealer will know the car had a tune even if you put in a new ECU.
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Well you were aware of the risks so just pay for the repair out of pocket. The dealer will know the car had a tune even if you put in a new ECU.
Oh I was def aware. But there are people who have done this and got away with it thru warranty. Might as well give it my best shot.
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Oh I was def aware. But there are people who have done this and got away with it thru warranty. Might as well give it my best shot.
I just watched a youtube video of a kid who did this exact same thing and admitted to it on camera. BMW covered the repair. Hopefully they don't find his video and send him a fat bill for warranty fraud. Daddy wouldn't be too happy.

No guarantees, but I wouldn't be public about it if you get lucky.
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What’s mods? Dct manual?
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I just watched a youtube video of a kid who did this exact same thing and admitted to it on camera. BMW covered the repair. Hopefully they don't find his video and send him a fat bill for warranty fraud. Daddy wouldn't be too happy.

No guarantees, but I wouldn't be public about it if you get lucky.
I saw that video as well. By the looks of it the dealer did it as a courtesy for him. His car had very little miles. I know some master techs at BMW but its not up to them to approve the warranty for a sch
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Nothing crazy, just downpipes and full E.
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Just my .02 but why do some people expect anyone but themselves to pay the price for a risk that they took with a lucid mind? When BMW covers this "as a courtesy" or because you commit fraud, then the rest of us pay the price later. I get it, spread out over many cars, it doesn't amount to much, but nonetheless, it gets passed to the next consumer.

Values systems in general are lacking. I hope the dealer tells you to go f yourself.
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Just my .02 but why do some people expect anyone but themselves to pay the price for a risk that they took with a lucid mind? When BMW covers this "as a courtesy" or because you commit fraud, then the rest of us pay the price later. I get it, spread out over many cars, it doesn't amount to much, but nonetheless, it gets passed to the next consumer.

Values systems in general are lacking. I hope the dealer tells you to go f yourself.


I appreciate the feedback regardless of the response. I am willing to pay for it out of pocket, but like everyone else in here, we would all try to get away with it thru warranty if possible.
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I appreciate the feedback regardless of the response. I am willing to pay for it out of pocket, but like everyone else in here, we would all try to get away with it thru warranty if possible.
I wouldn't. It's stealing. Why is stealing from a huge corporation different than stealing from your neighbor? If the SA knows the whole story and allows you to warranty it, so be it, but if you lie or conceal the truth, you're stealing. I'm not a goody two shoes, but if take a risk, I either win or lose. If I lose, I pay. If I win, I collect. Assess the risk, live with the outcome.

I know you're going to do what you want, but please don't state that "everyone" would try to commit fraud. They wouldn't.
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I wouldn't. It's stealing. Why is stealing from a huge corporation different than stealing from your neighbor? If the SA knows the whole story and allows you to warranty it, so be it, but if you lie or conceal the truth, you're stealing. I'm not a goody two shoes, but if take a risk, I either win or lose. If I lose, I pay. If I win, I collect. Assess the risk, live with the outcome.

I know you're going to do what you want, but please don't state that "everyone" would try to commit fraud. They wouldn't.

You have a point, I shouldn't of been so vague. And I don't much see it as fraud as this is a manufactures defect that happens even to stock cars that BMW will not claim responsibility for. Just my opinion. Again appreciate all feedback, even the negativity.
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I wouldn't. It's stealing. Why is stealing from a huge corporation different than stealing from your neighbor? If the SA knows the whole story and allows you to warranty it, so be it, but if you lie or conceal the truth, you're stealing. I'm not a goody two shoes, but if take a risk, I either win or lose. If I lose, I pay. If I win, I collect. Assess the risk, live with the outcome.

I know you're going to do what you want, but please don't state that "everyone" would try to commit fraud. They wouldn't.
Well said. It's like taking the bus but not paying the fare because it's going past your stop anyway.

In my practice I get asked everyday to commit insurance fraud. Some patients say that their previous dentist just billed their insurance and took what the insurance company paid. That is 100% fraud, and if a doctor is willing to rip off the insurance company, how good is the treatment that they are providing. I have fired staff for telling a patient that we can do that kind of billing.
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You have a point, I shouldn't of been so vague. And I don't much see it as fraud as this is a manufactures defect that happens even to stock cars that BMW will not claim responsibility for. Just my opinion. Again appreciate all feedback, even the negativity.
Look, you spin the hub, BMW should pay. Defect. However, when you mod, you know you void aspects of the warranty. You knew it, you did it, live with it. Or do what you want. I don't personally care, it just offends me when people assume they know and understand other people's values. Just because "everyone does it", doesn't make it right. Justify it if you must.

And I get that the justification is that the car would've broke perhaps even if you didn't mod. And, I'm not being negative. I'm being truthful.
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Look, you spin the hub, BMW should pay. Defect. However, when you mod, you know you void aspects of the warranty. You knew it, you did it, live with it. Or do what you want. I don't personally care, it just offends me when people assume they know and understand other people's values. Just because "everyone does it", doesn't make it right. Justify it if you must.

And I get that the justification is that the car would've broke perhaps even if you didn't mod. And, I'm not being negative. I'm being truthful.
I understand where you are coming from and as previously stated I should not have been vague and say everyone. And if it matters the service adviser working on my car thru warranty will know the full details. But at the end of the day I am fully prepared to pay the price and live with my actions. Your values are clearly different and this is not something you would do. I however will try to get around paying if I can. And truthfully I appreciate the honesty cause that's just how it is. No hard feelings whatsoever.
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It was stage 2 i think. Right?
And you didnt change anything on your engine before stage2 mod?
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It was stage 2 i think. Right?
And you didnt change anything on your engine before stage2 mod?
No engine mods. Only downpipes and a stage 2 tune
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No engine mods. Only downpipes and a stage 2 tune
I see. I am really sad.

I wish you enforced the crank hub with vargas turbo part or changed the new strongest aftermarket crank hub. There are some solutions on the internet and this forum.
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I see. I am really sad.

I wish you enforced the crank hub with vargas turbo part or changed the new strongest aftermarket crank hub. There are some solutions on the internet and this forum.

I was not planning on keeping the car past spring. Hence I did not reinforce it. Lesson learned.
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How did it happened? Were you cruising when it happened? Or the day after a spirited drive? Would you sharing?
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^^^ yeah. All those questions, and the transmission question that someone already asked. DCT or manual?
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^^^ yeah. All those questions, and the transmission question that someone already asked. DCT or manual?
DCT.
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