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11-29-2020, 12:09 AM | #89 |
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Out of the 2 model CSs, the M3 will be more sought after holding its value higher than the M4.
Note that only 607 M3 CS are the the US. Much less now due to some have been totaled. and that’s a good thing for me if I ever let my M3 CS go.
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GTS is more bespoke and limited but IMO it is less aesthetically appealing for general duty. It belongs on the track soaked in brake dust with bits of rubber sticking to its face. The orange highlights and wing make it a tad boy racer for the street. The GTS will command higher prices long term but the CS won't be far behind especially if buyers want a street-able car in a vibrant color like SMB or Melbourne Red with the beautiful 763 wheels. |
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The "CF" bits are also aerodynamically functional. The front splitter, hood and rear gurney flap work in unison to generate downforce. A base/CP M4 has net lift at speed while the CS has net downforce. The hood also contribures to improve the flow through the radiators. It couldn't have. It is not a single element that makes the CS what it is. It is the small increments in every area that make it an all around better car. It is the small increase in power/torque, the small weight reduction, the added downforce and the suspension plus EDC/ABS/EPS/e-diff tuned for stickier R-comp tires that all add up to more than the sum the individual parts. The fact that I am 2.5 seconds faster with my CS around my local track than I was with my previous M4 on the same tires is a testament to how it all came together for the CS.
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What is the point of a roll cage or aero only effective at 100+mph on a street car ? That doesn't mean owners cannot use them strickly for street use, but the design intent for the GTS still was a dedicated track car than can be driven to and from the track (still street legal). The GTS is definitely a more bespoke and special machine than the CS. I personally wished more of the GTS would have trickled down to the CS. What kept me out of the GTS is the lack of practicality (my M4 is my daily driver and I have 2 kids). The CS would have been perfect IMO would they have just included the GTS' water injected engine and Ti exhaust, and MP-HAS.
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I too wish they would have included more GTS bits standard like the titanium exhaust, I bet it would sound heavenly as an equal-length set-up.
The GTS definitely has leveled out and probably appreciating. Exactly like how small production and BMW sub-set M models have done. The GTS is definitely a good long-term used car buy, hopefully the CS ends up being the same with, though it also makes a decent long-term new car buy with the discounts absorbing 1st year depreciation. |
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If I follow your logic what’s the point of having a street car that can go faster than the speed limit? Even a regular M4 would then be ‘unnecessary’ right? For example, the roll cage makes the car stiffer, which in turn makes the driving experience better. The GTS feels connected in a way I’ve not felt in any other M4 variant. What’s the point of a loud full titanium exhaust? Because it sounds awesome. All the changes add to the driving experience. Imo, if the design intent was track only they wouldn’t have developed the car on the Nurburgring. That’s a very bumpy track in places and has all manner of cambers etc. Developing it there and achieving a good lap time (faster than a CGT) means it’ll work well on the street. The factory KW 3-ways feel amazing on the street. Also, I like that the GTS feels so focused and uncompromising. Makes the driving experience all the more special. If it was practical enough to daily I wouldn’t be interested. I have a boring practical daily, so I look forward to driving the GTS and it never fails to impress. I come from the Porsche world where everything is overpriced and a pita to get. The GTS is a hidden gem and such a good value to me. Maybe the same will be said about the CS in a few years, but I’d guess it’s not done depreciating.
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And yes, many cars are overly capable for the street. I personally have bought all my ///M to serve the dual duty of daily driver and track toy. If I were not to track my cars, I would have gotten something else, as there is no way to exploit the performance envelope of these cars within a reasonable margin of what is sane on public roads. Like I said, nothing wrong to use a GTS on the street only, but that was not its design intent.
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I wouldn't be surprised if the GTS prices eventually fall below the CS prices. It's just not as appealing, hence why you were able to get yours for $80K. A couple years down the road it'll probably be worth $50-$60K.... |
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a few CS owners in this thread might be high on their own farts. ;P
Both trim levels will hold their values better than the regular M4. The GTS is already increasing in value (though it might be short term) and the CS likely will increase eventually as well. Last edited by Secret Chimp; 11-30-2020 at 01:26 PM.. |
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I own an M4 CS (my DD) and it does not compare to a GTS... The GTS is better in all aspects and a lot more exclusive. You have probably never driven one to say the contrary. Sorry but only people short on cash (or parking ******* for a second car would choose a CS over a GTS if they were priced similarly. In Europe the price gap between them is huge, the GTS costs almost 2x a CS. In the long run the GTS is a lot more likely to hold its value compared to a CS. |
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