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Glad I have S54 and S62 in my possession. E46 for driving and E90 for hauling family and friends around. I am not against new tech, and will wait quietly till the next M3/4 is out to compare.
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I still love e46 M3s! They look amazing, even though they are almost 2 generations behind. Honestly, if I can find an AW manual one of them with low KMs, I would buy it in a heartbeat.
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Ha ha, they are correcting themselves by bringing back the I6 after realizing the mistake they did with V8. M3 is not meant to have any other engine, I6 is the only one and there is a reason, big reason why BMW decided to continue this route. This would also be a turning point where for first time the new model will be lighter than previous. Remains to be seen about dimensions, will it be lower and wider?? Let the fun begin.
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I have a sick feeling in my guts that when they finally announced the details of the next M3, the engine will be underwhelming just like it did on the 1M. I waited for the 1M and when i heard that it was gonna get the same N54 as my 135i, it was no deal for me. Looking at how M is cutting cost these days with no bespoke M engines, i am seriously worried that the I6 on the new M3 is gonna be another tuned up special of the N55/N54 I have full intention on getting the next M3 coupe, but if the engine is not special enough, i am jumping ship. Around this price range (or slightly more), there will be quite a lot of choice with cars like the upcoming Jaguar F type, new Audi R8, etc...
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For one has AG-man not to look at the M-GmbH, on the other hand does not provide the basis for the V6. Builds namely on the S65 and not on the S63Tü ... Alone proves that the info is not very realistic. Because he would have inside knowledge, then he would know the basis of the V6. Furthermore, it was just missed by all employees of the M-GmbH, a muzzle. They had to sign, that the mention of the letter "R" (in English I) or "V" will cost the job. and ... only 5 days after this action arises out an AG-proclaimed funny guy: "Yes, it will be an I6 in the M3 ..."?? Those who believe a thing like that??
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Well, this thread really brought out the best in this forum.
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The only thing good about an I6 M3 is the fact that we know BMW plans on building an I6 for the next generation of vehicles, it's sad to see it phased out in most of the line up. Although there is no way this will be a NA I6 and get more then 415 hp
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A clean AW manual is hard to come by but I'm sure there is one out there.
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Very happy to hear this
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http://www.f30post.com/forums/poll.p...ts&pollid=6341
Turns out the majority was right...by only a few %
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It amazes me. I remember reading some of the same type of debate about the 1M, how it would not be a true M car because it doesn't have a "bespoke" engine, it's a "parts bin" car, yadda, yadda. Now look what people are saying. "Instant classic". "Most fun car in BMW's lineup". "Total riot". Etc. Sure, people will always bitch and moan, I get that. But have a little perspective. People said the same thing about the F10 M5. OMG turbo M5, no way, V10 rulez yo, yadda, yadda. Now Top Gear calls it the "Best car on sale today". E9X M3 - amazing car. E60 M5 - amazing car. They are the last of the breed....super high specific output naturally aspirated engines. But that breed of engine is dying. Indycar - N/A V8 engines in 2011, turbo V6's in 2012 F1 - N/A V12 to N/A V10 to N/A V8 to turbo V6 in 2013. See a trend here? I am very much looking forward to the F80 M3. I like my current F10 535, but it is a bit aloof, even with all the sport goodies on it. The F30 has enough room for my family of 4 whereas the E90 simply did not. I don't plan on tracking my car, it's a daily driver. I drive in a monumental amount of traffic and usually can't get the car higher than 50 MPH without risking a ticket. For me, the new torque infused M3 will be perfect. Will I miss the E9x M3? Yes. It will be a classic, and one I wish I had more seat time in. But I have a feeling BMW won't let us down with the F80.... |
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