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About the C63 some sources wrote that there would be more weight savings over the base car ... probably carbon-compount material for hood, roof and trunk .. I don´t know the weight of the M157 engine but I think, it won´t be extremly heavy vs. the NA M156 So I fear BMW M-GmbH has taken the wrong decision to bring the 80kg lighter M3/M4 with an 430hp 3.0ltr.R6 TT ... also the current C63 is not too far back on track vs. the E9xM3 - nearer than all precessors. |
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10-25-2013, 10:21 AM | #47 |
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I expect the Lexus RC-f and the C-AMG to be extremely competitive when they come out. I think it will come down to nuance and interior/exterior aesthetics. If Audi comes through on their weight reduction goal with the S4/5 and then RS4/5 then that will be another brand to consider.
It's a good time to like performance sedans and coupes. |
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Because of this I beleave it gets the M157, because the M177/178 Debüts late 2014 with the GT. |
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10-26-2013, 11:38 AM | #51 |
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One of these two will be my next car. Recently looked at the E63S at our local dealership, but I just can't imagine paying 100K for a car that's not a 911 and I need four doors. That car is an absolute beast though!!! Mercedes is making great cars now. Its good for us, the consumer, as competition yields better results. I do think that in the northeast, the merc will outsell the M4 solely because of the AWD. This fact alone will likely steer me towards the Merc, even though I have always wanted a M3 (now M4). I know its sac relig but if the M4 was to have an AWD option, I would already have an order in. If Porsche/Lambo/Merc/and even Ferrari are doing it, why not the M division???
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"Just as its rivals downsize to high-performance fours and sixes, AMG is reportedly working on a brand new V-8, albeit one smaller than we’re used to seeing from the official tuner to Mercedes-Benz."
RESPECT i am really leaning towards the new C63 AMG for next car |
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Yeh I'm a little confused too with all the noise on the upcoming C63...I really want to get my order in for an M4 but I guess I'll wait a little till I get some clearer pics and info on the next gen C63...
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2015 C63 has jumped to the top of my list for my daily car. With the reports of significant weight loss, 4.0L twin turbo, and change to double wishbone suspension. The new interior just looks too nice to pass up. Burmester stereo would be very nice.
A stripper M235i or even 228i M-sport, is now on the list for weekend track car. |
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Close to 500 hp, reportedly. Unfortunately, only with auto and as a sedan (wagon to follow), it sounds like.
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Very big potential ... specially if it would get the brand new Cadillac 4.5ltr.V8 BiTurbo.
Really not sure about the C63 engine ... even Worldcarfans says in one post. 5.5ltr.V8 M157 and in an other 4.0ltr.V8 M177/178. But I guess minimum 500hp for sure, because I think the C63 Edition 507 is/forms the way they would go. Last edited by BMW M3 CRT; 10-28-2013 at 12:35 PM.. |
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"The MCT transmission is essentially the 7G-Tronic automatic transmission without a torque converter. Instead of a torque converter, it uses a compact wet startup clutch to launch the car from a stop, and also supports computer-controlled double declutching. The MCT (Multi-Clutch Technology) acronym refers to a planetary (automatic) transmission’s multiple clutches and bands for each gear. The MCT is fitted with four drive modes: “C” (Comfort), “S” (Sport), “S+” (Sport plus) and “M” (Manual) and boasts 100 millisecond shifts in "M" and "S+" modes. MCT-equipped cars are also fitted with the new AMG DRIVE UNIT with innovative Race Start function. The AMG DRIVE UNIT is the central control unit for the AMG SPEEDSHIFT MCT 7-speed sports transmission and all driving dynamics functions. The driver can change gears either using the selector lever, or by nudging the steering-wheel shift paddles. The new Race start Function is a launch control system which enables the driver to call on maximum acceleration, while ensuring optimum traction of the driven wheels." I assume the DCT in the CLA is designed for FWD and is not usable in that form for a RWD car, or may not have the torque capacity.
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Unlike their RWD automatic transmission (and related MCT), Mercedes sources the DCT in the SLS from Getrag (which incidentally is the same supplier BMW uses for their DCTs). So if their target market demands a DCT they will simply find one that will do the job.
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Rwd happiness!
But i hope the c63 looks good this time around. The front looked nice after the refresh but the back just looked boring still. Need to make the back end look nice if they decide to have it smoke everything in its class out there. |
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