Getting my F80 tuned today!

[Keca10]

Originally Posted by xxdachosen1xx

I just uploaded a quick video that I shot while riding in his M2 Comp. I couldn't get my phone out fast enough.

You are driving like a retard and endangering people on public roads.
Take it to the track.

This is the worst way of “Proving” the performance of a tune.
Why not share a dyno graph as others have said?

[e90335e36m3]

Originally Posted by xxdachosen1xx

My intent was again as I have said before was to share my experience that I had with a car that was tuned with the software. Prior to purchasing myself and I was very skeptical as I read other posts but when I rode in a car with the tune it really blew me away. I then called and spoke with ex race car driver "Karl Troy" owner of European road and racing in Charleston South Carolina that I respect immensely and trust to validate this company and tune. Knowing that he would shoot me straight and be honest I asked him a ton of questions and he had nothing but great things to say about the software and tune. Keep in mind "Karl Troy" mentioned above is not the same guy that tuned my car so he was giving me his unbiased experience. I put more trust in Karl Troy with his racing background and knowledge of tuned BMW's than people's opinions on forums. Also people here are trying to flame me for sharing my experience about my car that I pad my money for is silly if you ask me.

If you want to be assured you get a quality product you consult and expert. I'm not an expert which is why I say call the experts of you have questions.

And how exactly did this "Karl Troy" validate the company and tune? Per your own posts and Noelle's terms, the only way to validate the tune is to drive the car. Pretty shallow level of "validation" if you ask me. Does he happen to drive many Noelle tuned cars? If so, begs the question of how and why. Is he a distributor/installer for Noelle? How did he validate the company itself? A forum full of enthusiasts (prospective buyers) and sponsors (prospective distributors) are all saying this company and its practices are a black box. Yet "Karl Troy" is somehow enlightened enough about Noelle and its offerings to stake his own reputation to a random purchaser? Who in their right mind would do that? But if they do, more likely then not they are not unbiased.

Noelle's whole, if you try to validate our tune, your car will explode is non-sense. Decades of dyno-testing and probably millions of cars have proven this to be a completely ungrounded assertion. Seems more like, don't try to validate our tune, we don't want you to see whose IP we reverse engineered and are worried our own skins to the extent you do. Or it may be like overpromising and underdelivering like the other long time, established supplier in the BMW aftermarket.

[ptper]

Originally Posted by Keca10

You are driving like a retard and endangering people on public roads.
Take it to the track.

This is the worst way of “Proving” the performance of a tune.
Why not share a dyno graph as others have said?

I'm agreeing 100%, but I will say, I think he's in the passenger seat and not driving...but agree that's not the best location to do pulls.

[c4ss]

Buy a 2500+ dollar tune, get a free bridge in Brooklyn.

[fiveohwblow]

I just want to be the first to say, thank you OP for this thread.





That is all.

[Carguy1994]

Originally Posted by Keca10

You are driving like a retard and endangering people on public roads.
Take it to the track.

This is the worst way of “Proving” the performance of a tune.
Why not share a dyno graph as others have said?

There's no one on the road. He's endangering himself only.

[65fastback]

Originally Posted by Carguy1994

There's no one on the road. He's endangering himself only.

nobody on the road?? He passed 3 cars at well over 100 mph in a couple seconds...are you blind?


I see nothing in that vid to be impressed about.

[Carguy1994]

Originally Posted by 65fastback

nobody on the road?? He passed 3 cars at well over 100 mph in a couple seconds...are you blind?


I see nothing in that vid to be impressed about.

It's not like he was weaving in and out of traffic. Wasn't too crazy man.

[Whatcoloristhat]

Originally Posted by Keca10

You are driving like a retard and endangering people on public roads.
Take it to the track.

This is the worst way of “Proving” the performance of a tune.
Why not share a dyno graph as others have said?

Here’s a hint don’t go to Autobahn.

[N1rve]

Originally Posted by Whatcoloristhat

Here’s a hint don’t go to Autobahn.

Shouldn't that be a tip and not a hint?

[Tecnniqe]

Originally Posted by Whatcoloristhat

Here’s a hint don’t go to Autobahn.

That is not how you drive on the Autobahn (weaving in and out of lanes to avoid traffic).

Also if there are no limit people can expect you to come flying although you should still be careful going like 190 when they go like 90.

[Whatcoloristhat]

Originally Posted by N1rve

Shouldn't that be a tip and not a hint?

Suggestion. He may rip off his pearls from all the pearl clutching.

Originally Posted by Tecnniqe

That is not how you drive on the Autobahn.

How does one drive with no speed limits? Third lane(5th?) and gtfo my way!

[xxdachosen1xx]

Originally Posted by e90335e36m3

And how exactly did this "Karl Troy" validate the company and tune? Per your own posts and Noelle's terms, the only way to validate the tune is to drive the car. Pretty shallow level of "validation" if you ask me. Does he happen to drive many Noelle tuned cars? If so, begs the question of how and why. Is he a distributor/installer for Noelle? How did he validate the company itself? A forum full of enthusiasts (prospective buyers) and sponsors (prospective distributors) are all saying this company and its practices are a black box. Yet "Karl Troy" is somehow enlightened enough about Noelle and its offerings to stake his own reputation to a random purchaser? Who in their right mind would do that? But if they do, more likely then not they are not unbiased.

Noelle's whole, if you try to validate our tune, your car will explode is non-sense. Decades of dyno-testing and probably millions of cars have proven this to be a completely ungrounded assertion. Seems more like, don't try to validate our tune, we don't want you to see whose IP we reverse engineered and are worried our own skins to the extent you do. Or it may be like overpromising and underdelivering like the other long time, established supplier in the BMW aftermarket.

Why don't you ask Karl and not me. As stated before I'm not an expert.

[Whatcoloristhat]

Originally Posted by Tecnniqe

That is not how you drive on the Autobahn (weaving in and out of lanes to avoid traffic).

Also if there are no limit people can expect you to come flying although you should still be careful going like 190 when they go like 90.

Originally Posted by TopJimmy

I wouldn't worry about the letter... Germans over engineer and over document wherever possible. It just protects the manufacturer being liable for some idiot doing a full dyno session with crappy blowers and something trip hot at the absolute worst moment.

When I dyno'd at Kies he used a stack of huge airmovers that blew like a hurricane. I would still pod-dyno (dynapack) the Noelle tune and see what I got for my $3K.

3K for a tune?! Lmao damn i hope you happy at least.

[65fastback]

Originally Posted by Carguy1994

It's not like he was weaving in and out of traffic. Wasn't too crazy man.

OH! you mean like in LA? yeah...driving like a total dick around other cars & traffic is 100% normal there. and I am not saying you do but I get why this would seam like no big deal.

if any one of those 3 cars he passed didn't see him coming and decided to change lanes at the wrong time causing the M driver to swerve or actually clip the other car at well over 100 mph. Its obvious the end result would suck, a lot.

just calling you out for saying there was only risk to himself.

[xxdachosen1xx]

Originally Posted by ptper

I'm agreeing 100%, but I will say, I think he's in the passenger seat and not driving...but agree that's not the best location to do pulls.

Yes I was the passenger.

[Whatcoloristhat]

Originally Posted by 65fastback

OH! you mean like in LA? yeah...driving like a total dick around other cars & traffic is 100% normal there. and I am not saying you do but I get why this would seam like no big deal.

if any one of those 3 cars he passed didn't see him coming and decided to change lanes at the wrong time causing the M driver to swerve or actually clip the other car at well over 100 mph. Its obvious the end result would suck, a lot.

just calling you out for saying there was only risk to himself.

If those three drivers didn’t see him speeding in the third lane then that would make them the bad drivers. People speed on the highway. That’s why it’s called a highway. Not just in LA, either.

[65fastback]

Huh!????

Let's hear some more of your great wisdom I can't wait.

[Whatcoloristhat]

Originally Posted by 65fastback

Huh!????

Let's hear some more of your great wisdom I can't wait.

Not trying to be obtuse; just don’t understand people complaining about drivers speeding on highways.

[Tecnniqe]

Originally Posted by Whatcoloristhat

Not trying to be obtuse; just don’t understand people complaining about drivers speeding on highways.

There is speeding and then there is reckless driving

[ptper]

Originally Posted by xxdachosen1xx

Why don't you ask Karl and not me. As stated before I'm not an expert.

I think because you said you asked a 'ton' of questions...we would have thought the subject of perf. data might have come up in the course of the conversation with Karl The Expert.

[MisterF80M3]

Would be funny if they just flashed a BM3 tune and call it Noelle tune and then sell it to people for $3000.