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      07-25-2021, 12:04 PM   #177
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How many miles?

I have 10k miles on my 18 zcp and carvana offered me $60,800
14k miles - Carvana and Vroom both offered me significantly less. Carvana only offered 55k and Vroom offered 57k. Not sure why exactly - could be the human appraiser element at Carmax. The guy doing it was impressed - I didn't have to talk it up at all - he was doing all that!
Did they test drive it? Do they evaluate the function/operability of everything in the car?
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      07-25-2021, 02:08 PM   #178
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When COVID hit, I started looking at cars and nervously hoped for a smoking deal. My gut said, try to find one, my brain told me I was crazy to try and buy a car during such uncertain times.

In June 2020 I paid $58k for a 2018 ZCP with 17k that had a original sticker total of $84k and had a PPF track kit on it and decently new tires. That was a fair price at that time after perusing for a car for 3-4 months. I saw no "stellar deals".

After watching the pricing change over the last several months…If think if you can get the same spec'd car for close to $60k, I think you did well considering how insane prices have climbed. Just hold on to it for at least 2-3 years to get the "depreciated use" of the recent increases out it. Aka, put miles on it and enjoy it! Don't let it be a garage queen.

TLDR : anything near $60k for an '18 under 20k is a good deal now. But you better drive it to get the value out of recent price increases. Don't let it sit.


That's just my opinion.
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      07-29-2021, 09:30 AM   #179
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I had a Jeep Grand Cherokee Trackhawk that was stolen two months ago. Because of that I ended up buying my F80.

From my research, price has settled in the high 50s, low 60s for 2018 F80s. It didn't matter if it was base or high spec, that's the range they're selling for. So I waited and found a very high spec one (90k MSRP) Mineral White with basically same mods I'd do on mine. Sell price was 64k and with original price I think it's a fair depreciation for a 3 year car (almost 30k!).

Now...here is where things get crazy. Just for your entertainment, my Jeep I bought it in August 2019 for 76k with 3,800 miles. If you go and buy one they are in the 80s with 20-30k miles. Insurance company ended up giving me 91k for the car and it had almost 30k miles. Crazy!!!!
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I had a Jeep Grand Cherokee Trackhawk that was stolen two months ago. Because of that I ended up buying my F80.

From my research, price has settled in the high 50s, low 60s for 2018 F80s. It didn't matter if it was base or high spec, that's the range they're selling for. So I waited and found a very high spec one (90k MSRP) Mineral White with basically same mods I'd do on mine. Sell price was 64k and with original price I think it's a fair depreciation for a 3 year car (almost 30k!).

Now...here is where things get crazy. Just for your entertainment, my Jeep I bought it in August 2019 for 76k with 3,800 miles. If you go and buy one they are in the 80s with 20-30k miles. Insurance company ended up giving me 91k for the car and it had almost 30k miles. Crazy!!!!
Good to know insurance is adjusting to market values.
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      07-29-2021, 09:35 AM   #181
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When COVID hit, I started looking at cars and nervously hoped for a smoking deal. My gut said, try to find one, my brain told me I was crazy to try and buy a car during such uncertain times.

In June 2020 I paid $58k for a 2018 ZCP with 17k that had a original sticker total of $84k and had a PPF track kit on it and decently new tires. That was a fair price at that time after perusing for a car for 3-4 months. I saw no "stellar deals".

After watching the pricing change over the last several months…If think if you can get the same spec'd car for close to $60k, I think you did well considering how insane prices have climbed. Just hold on to it for at least 2-3 years to get the "depreciated use" of the recent increases out it. Aka, put miles on it and enjoy it! Don't let it be a garage queen.

TLDR : anything near $60k for an '18 under 20k is a good deal now. But you better drive it to get the value out of recent price increases. Don't let it sit.


That's just my opinion.
I tried a lot to find one in that range with less than 20k but unfortunately, almost all were in the 20-40k range, which is not bad (mine was 36k miles when bought and drove 1,200 miles home )

it's crazy...but the ones I saw with less than 20k were actually in the high 60s, low 70s. Insane honestly.
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      07-29-2021, 09:37 AM   #182
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Good to know insurance is adjusting to market values.
Oh yeah, and that price was after bringing a 3rd party appraiser into the mix. Before the price was roughly 5k less, so still pretty good pricing from their first offer.
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      07-29-2021, 07:35 PM   #183
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When COVID hit, I started looking at cars and nervously hoped for a smoking deal. My gut said, try to find one, my brain told me I was crazy to try and buy a car during such uncertain times.

In June 2020 I paid $58k for a 2018 ZCP with 17k that had a original sticker total of $84k and had a PPF track kit on it and decently new tires. That was a fair price at that time after perusing for a car for 3-4 months. I saw no "stellar deals".

After watching the pricing change over the last several months…If think if you can get the same spec'd car for close to $60k, I think you did well considering how insane prices have climbed. Just hold on to it for at least 2-3 years to get the "depreciated use" of the recent increases out it. Aka, put miles on it and enjoy it! Don't let it be a garage queen.

TLDR : anything near $60k for an '18 under 20k is a good deal now. But you better drive it to get the value out of recent price increases. Don't let it sit.


That's just my opinion.
I tried a lot to find one in that range with less than 20k but unfortunately, almost all were in the 20-40k range, which is not bad (mine was 36k miles when bought and drove 1,200 miles home )

it's crazy...but the ones I saw with less than 20k were actually in the high 60s, low 70s. Insane honestly.
Yeah I think I really lucked out. The dealer in North Carolina took it in on trade and I snagged it by luck immediately.

I was searching the BMW NA website where dealers list all their PO inventory. So I just refreshed that page like twice a day for months : )
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      07-29-2021, 08:46 PM   #184
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I had a Jeep Grand Cherokee Trackhawk that was stolen two months ago. Because of that I ended up buying my F80.
How was it stolen? I assumed the anti-theft tech would be decent on a vehicle that new?

I've been testing the waters with offers within the last week, I have a 2017 M3 ZCP with ~22,500k miles and near perfect condition:

Vroom offered $20 something thousand, felt like actually hitting the reply button on the email to tell them to go fuck themselves.

Carmax offered $50k

BMW Seattle offered $51k

KBB offered $51k and then I talked the local participating dealer up to $53k
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      07-30-2021, 01:43 AM   #185
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I had a Jeep Grand Cherokee Trackhawk that was stolen two months ago. Because of that I ended up buying my F80.
What a downfall to continue with a 3 series

Im not sure how long those values are being stable, some MFR's (Audi, BMW & Merc) in Germany had already announced to discontinuing classic fuel engines and at the end you may be forced by extremely high fuel prices and/or taxes to get rid of your car.
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      07-30-2021, 10:57 AM   #186
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When COVID hit, I started looking at cars and nervously hoped for a smoking deal. My gut said, try to find one, my brain told me I was crazy to try and buy a car during such uncertain times.
Ditto. I was apprehensive to buy another car in April 2020 but when looking around, I found a 2018 M4 convertible w/ 7800 miles in Kansas City for $57k. The car had just come off lease at the selling dealer who had done all the maintenance. The car was loaded - every box checked. MSRP was $99k when new. MPE, carbon everywhere, etc. I just couldn't believe I could buy it for 60% of the MSRP only 18 months into service. I bit and now I'm seeing the same specs selling for $10-15k more. Timing is everything! I have no intention of selling the car but it's nice knowing that I've enjoyed the drive for the past 15 months without suffering depreciation. And considering the design elements of the new version, I have no intention of "upgrading" anytime soon.
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      07-30-2021, 03:47 PM   #187
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Bought a CPO 2017 m3 back in March for 46k… dealers offering me 56 to get me into a g8x lol no thanks
I got one of these emails, offering me big money, to get into a G80… I sent them an email asking how much to buy it outright from me…

Still waiting haha
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      07-30-2021, 04:30 PM   #188
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Bought a CPO 2017 m3 back in March for 46k… dealers offering me 56 to get me into a g8x lol no thanks
I got one of these emails, offering me big money, to get into a G80… I sent them an email asking how much to buy it outright from me…

Still waiting haha
I've gotten those as well and sent the same email…never got a response lol
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      07-30-2021, 04:52 PM   #189
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2016 M4 mineral gray. Executive package. Just shy of 25k miles. Carvana offered me 45,060 back in May. Today I got an email from them to review my new offer and it was 46,144. Looking to sell in the next few weeks. Need to see what Carmax will offer.
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Just traded my 2018 M3 comp with a manual trans for a 2021 E63s. It was a very difficult thing letting go of the M3. So many things about the car that really worked for me. The M3 had 16K miles on it.

Made the trade because I love the 4 liter motor in the AMG and I wanted a car better suited to cross-country drives. High speed, comfort, tech etc.

The reason I post up is that I was offered (and took) $73K for the M3! Not sure what the MB dealership was thinking? Can only imagine that someone made a mistake. Regardless, I took the offer and bought the E63. Wildly impressive car, but am certain I will miss the M3.
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Just took a look at the E9X M3 for sale threads... man those guys are fkn high
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Just traded my 2018 M3 comp with a manual trans for a 2021 E63s. It was a very difficult thing letting go of the M3. So many things about the car that really worked for me. The M3 had 16K miles on it.

Made the trade because I love the 4 liter motor in the AMG and I wanted a car better suited to cross-country drives. High speed, comfort, tech etc.

The reason I post up is that I was offered (and took) $73K for the M3! Not sure what the MB dealership was thinking? Can only imagine that someone made a mistake. Regardless, I took the offer and bought the E63. Wildly impressive car, but am certain I will miss the M3.
$73k is an impressive number and most likely not a mistake…they play number games but you did great! Good for you and I'm in agreement that 4 liter is a beast! Enjoy!!
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Just traded my 2018 M3 comp with a manual trans for a 2021 E63s. It was a very difficult thing letting go of the M3. So many things about the car that really worked for me. The M3 had 16K miles on it.

Made the trade because I love the 4 liter motor in the AMG and I wanted a car better suited to cross-country drives. High speed, comfort, tech etc.

The reason I post up is that I was offered (and took) $73K for the M3! Not sure what the MB dealership was thinking? Can only imagine that someone made a mistake. Regardless, I took the offer and bought the E63. Wildly impressive car, but am certain I will miss the M3.
They can tell you whatever number you/they want because you traded yours in for theirs. So $73k for trade but what did they charge you for the Merc???? They still made lots of profit off of you. Don't worry. Lol
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2016 M4 mineral gray. Executive package. Just shy of 25k miles. Carvana offered me 45,060 back in May. Today I got an email from them to review my new offer and it was 46,144. Looking to sell in the next few weeks. Need to see what Carmax will offer.
Vroom offered me the most, check them all out
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So $73k for trade but what did they charge you for the Merc????
$4K below MSRP
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      07-31-2021, 03:32 PM   #196
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Vroom offered me the most, check them all out
Thanks. I will definitely check Vroom out
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Anyone here looking to sell a M3 2018 DCT, please PM me and the price. Low miles under 25k.
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