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      01-02-2019, 04:03 PM   #23
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Maybe I should've just texted my friend instead of publically commenting? I am not starting a debate.

Something to note is you don't need to flash back to stock every time, you only need to if warranty or software related servicing.



I'll just text you lol
No, don't text it. The OP is clearly clueless, but don't let that stop you from discussing it on this thread.
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Well...

I don't need the fastest car
I don't need the lowest car
I don't need the loudest car
I don't need the widest car

If someone is looking for the highest numbers, I'm sure other tune can do better.

I have my stage 3 since got my bran new car, installed at the dealership.
Headache free, smooth tune. Back in the days there was no OBD flash, and still it would bothering me flashing back every time I bring the car to the dealership.
With flash tuning you can remain at stock power or have any level of power adjustment you want. Including gear limited power.

Dinan biggest factor is the weight reduction from your wallet.
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With flash tuning you can remain at stock power or have any level of power adjustment you want. Including gear limited power.

Dinan biggest factor is the weight reduction from your wallet.
That's fine with me, I was more than happy to spend some $ more for the Dinan tune.
If the support wouldn't be that bad, I would go again with Dinan.
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Something to note is you don't need to flash back to stock every time, you only need to if warranty or software related servicing.



You don't even need to flash back for warranty related servicing since every tune is detectable , doesn't matter if the flash counter is frozen or not.

I'm very happy with my Dinan Stage 3 and you guys can't change my mind 😂🤣😂

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He wasn't replying to you, he was replying to someone else. You've already made clear your lack of knowledge, and stubborn ignorance on this, and that's fine. Doesn't mean other, more reasonable people can't discuss it.
My question was already answered by BPM, nothing to discuss anymore but please go ahead.
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My question was already answered by BPM, nothing to discuss anymore but please go ahead.
Were you dropped on your head as a child...repeatedly? Because it sure seems like it.
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It won't at all. We've done it a number of times. Couple people last week just got burbles and speed limit delete and it paired up fine with the DINAN piggyback.
Now we're talking! That's the information I needed.

Is your tune something I can do on my own or is it remote flash?

Thanks

Edit: Never mind, got all information. Gonna send you an email later.
10 minutes, do it yourself, super easy and no internet connection required. Impossible to mess up. Even if the laptop dies or cable gets knocked out during programming, easily recoverable. Essentially foolproof.

Great, thanks!
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Running currently DINAN Stage 3 on my ZCP plus full time open valves and second cats and resonator delete.

What would be the easiest option to get rid of the annoying cold start but keep my Dinan tune?

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OBDII CAN Module for F Chassis $279.00
2013+ F Chassis Models are equipped with an electronic valve in the tailpipe that helps control the exhaust sound according to a profile programmed from the factory. This handy plug and play module lets you take control of your flapper valve right from the drivers seat. Go from sounding 100% stock to an exotic exhaust system for a fraction of the cost with just one click of a button.
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Running currently DINAN Stage 3 on my ZCP plus full time open valves and second cats and resonator delete.

What would be the easiest option to get rid of the annoying cold start but keep my Dinan tune?

Thanks
This will do the trick.
OBDII CAN Module for F Chassis $279.00
2013+ F Chassis Models are equipped with an electronic valve in the tailpipe that helps control the exhaust sound according to a profile programmed from the factory. This handy plug and play module lets you take control of your flapper valve right from the drivers seat. Go from sounding 100% stock to an exotic exhaust system for a fraction of the cost with just one click of a button.
No it won't. The cold start raised rpm level is still very loud even with valves closed (and they are closed upon default cold start anyway so no need for a controller in this application).
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Something to note is you don't need to flash back to stock every time, you only need to if warranty or software related servicing.



You don't even need to flash back for warranty related servicing since every tune is detectable , doesn't matter if the flash counter is frozen


I agree with you 100%; I have a Dinan stage 2 also and I'm completely satisfied with its overall performance. You can literally feel the quality of the physical ECU unit & harness and tell that's its engineered on par with BMW standards, as oppose to the competition. I believe folks hate on Dinan because they simply don't like their prices, which is an asinine reason to dismiss the strength or pros of any product.

Yes, you can extract more power from a tune but that means you're breaking the electronic seal and changing the factory mapping. Even if you're only tuning to eliminate the cold start.

No matter what ANY tuner claims about how safe their tune is, the simple fact is you're altering BMWs set parameters and if a claim is large enough, BMW AG will guarantee figure it out and rightfully deny it. The reason people claim BMW can't see a tune if you reset the counter is because they never had a need to test the theory.

Unfortunately, the "cold start" is in place for emission control, so the only way to change it is an unauthorized tune. Dinan products are CARB legal, so they'll never risk it and interfere with anything emission related. So there is that.
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You're forgetting that even if you solely use your Dinan, that is still detectable if something catastrophic happens.
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You're forgetting that even if you solely use your Dinan, that is still detectable if something catastrophic happens.
Dinan has his own warranty...
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Dinan has his own warranty...
I'm pretty sure I already knew that, based on my earlier post about the big selling point of the Dinan being the warranty.
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I don't understand this whole circlejerk over Dinan.

The only reason people get it is because of the warranty but we've also seen that when something goes wrong they're a huge pain in the ass to deal with (as with all warranty claims). So what's the point of going that route when flash tunes are leagues better, even from an engineering perspective?
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Guys, as much as I appreciate your concern about my Dinan tune and my warranty but that wasn’t my question. I did my research on the tune before I purchase it and it was the best tune (at least at that time) for my needs and I did not want to have my DME bench flashed for multiple reasons.
I have the tune now since 3 years with zero issues and I would like to keep it. I’m not interested to make any more power with other tune, I don’t care if there are better tunes available. I just don’t want to bother my neighbors in the morning, that’s all.
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