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That nardo looks insane!
It's not nardo, it's Lime Rock Grey Metallic. It has a bit of gold in it under the sun.

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It's not nardo, it's Lime Rock Grey Metallic. It has a bit of gold in it under the sun.

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Huge fan of LRG. Absolutely gorgeous color. Beats Hockenheim Silver imho.

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It's not nardo, it's Lime Rock Grey Metallic. It has a bit of gold in it under the sun.

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Huge fan of LRG. Absolutely gorgeous color. Beats Hockenheim Silver imho.

Thanks! I love this color too! Interestingly enough, if I were to get an M2 Hockenheimer Silver is at the top of my list!
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Btw mine is also LRG. EAS told me another LRG has same problem. I wonder only LRG received those bad batch GTS hood?
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Btw mine is also LRG. EAS told me another LRG has same problem. I wonder only LRG received those bad batch GTS hood?
LOL I was just there about 2 weeks ago. I don't think it's a bad hood... I have photos of the day I took delivery and the hood is fine. Something happened, either the hood or the bumper got bent/misaligned. Most likely the bumper.
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Btw mine is also LRG. EAS told me another LRG has same problem. I wonder only LRG received those bad batch GTS hood?
LOL I was just there about 2 weeks ago. I don't think it's a bad hood... I have photos of the day I took delivery and the hood is fine. Something happened, either the hood or the bumper got bent/misaligned. Most likely the bumper.
I guess Tom was mentioned your car then haha.
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Someone asked where exactly I put the washers.

First pop the hood and remove the weather stripping near the front bumper cover. It's a long black rubber piece. Then I unscrew the torx screws (T25 and T30 I believe) pictured. The washers go between the body colored bumper cover and mounting point of the car.

You can see the silver washers under the grey bumper cover below. I used 5/16" washers to make it easy to line up the torx screw.

Ps - I'm replacing them with black oxide coated washers to prevent corrosion sooner or later.
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Someone asked where exactly I put the washers.

First pop the hood and remove the weather stripping near the front bumper cover. It's a long black rubber piece. Then I unscrew the torx screws (T25 and T30 I believe) pictured. The washers go between the body colored bumper cover and mounting point of the car.

You can see the silver washers under the grey bumper cover below. I used 5/16" washers to make it easy to line up the torx screw.

Ps - I'm replacing them with black oxide coated washers to prevent corrosion sooner or later.
Random question.

You think it has to do with all the opening and closing of the hood that causes it?
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Someone asked where exactly I put the washers.

First pop the hood and remove the weather stripping near the front bumper cover. It's a long black rubber piece. Then I unscrew the torx screws (T25 and T30 I believe) pictured. The washers go between the body colored bumper cover and mounting point of the car.

You can see the silver washers under the grey bumper cover below. I used 5/16" washers to make it easy to line up the torx screw.

Ps - I'm replacing them with black oxide coated washers to prevent corrosion sooner or later.
Just use stainless steel washers.

How do the washers underneath help fitment adjustability? More washers the more it closes the gap when looking straight ahead?

Ive found that sliding the bumper more forward closes the straight ahead gap but too much and the gap between the bumper and hood gets bigger.

Sliding the bumper inwards creates a larger straight ahead gap.
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Someone asked where exactly I put the washers.

First pop the hood and remove the weather stripping near the front bumper cover. It's a long black rubber piece. Then I unscrew the torx screws (T25 and T30 I believe) pictured. The washers go between the body colored bumper cover and mounting point of the car.

You can see the silver washers under the grey bumper cover below. I used 5/16" washers to make it easy to line up the torx screw.

Ps - I'm replacing them with black oxide coated washers to prevent corrosion sooner or later.
Just use stainless steel washers.

How do the washers underneath help fitment adjustability? More washers the more it closes the gap when looking straight ahead?

Ive found that sliding the bumper more forward closes the straight ahead gap but too much and the gap between the bumper and hood gets bigger.

Sliding the bumper inwards creates a larger straight ahead gap.
The width of my gap was actually not off. It was the vertical alignment of the hood and bumper cover.

The width is easily adjustable by loosening the torx screws and moving them forward or backward.

The elevation can be changed with the bump stops and hood latches, but in this case the bumper cover was too low towards the left and right on the car. So if I raise the hood with the bump stop and latches to make the middle perfect, the corners would be too high. So I used the washers on the under the outer bumper cover torx screws to raise the bumper a few mm.
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Someone asked where exactly I put the washers.

First pop the hood and remove the weather stripping near the front bumper cover. It's a long black rubber piece. Then I unscrew the torx screws (T25 and T30 I believe) pictured. The washers go between the body colored bumper cover and mounting point of the car.

You can see the silver washers under the grey bumper cover below. I used 5/16" washers to make it easy to line up the torx screw.

Ps - I'm replacing them with black oxide coated washers to prevent corrosion sooner or later.
Random question.

You think it has to do with all the opening and closing of the hood that causes it?
That was my theory but many are saying that the hood would crack before it gets deformed.
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Update #2. Added a few more washers and adjusted the distance front and back and now it's 99.9% perfect!
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That was my theory but many are saying that the hood would crack before it gets deformed.
Yeah, my SA warned me not to do a CS/GTS hood as cracks will happen from all the hood closing and what not. They have seen it apparently so she warned me off of it.

I never really heard about the deforming part so, seeing this is completely new to me.
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Yeah, my SA warned me not to do a CS/GTS hood as cracks will happen from all the hood closing and what not. They have seen it apparently so she warned me off of it.

I never really heard about the deforming part so, seeing this is completely new to me.
If you like the looks, maybe just go with the aluminum version? Im considering one for my 2015, but although I wrapped my car, underneath is mineral white. Hard color to color match.
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If you like the looks, maybe just go with the aluminum version? Im considering one for my 2015, but although I wrapped my car, underneath is mineral white. Hard color to color match.
I'll be honest, I don't know my car plans atm. I am inching ever closer to a GT4 at this point. It isn't financially wise for me to mod my car any further.

Wanted to though. CS/GTS hood looks awesome
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I'll be honest, I don't know my car plans atm. I am inching ever closer to a GT4 at this point. It isn't financially wise for me to mod my car any further.

Wanted to though. CS/GTS hood looks awesome
I say do it! Id get one but have a toddler and a newborn. The M3 is the closest thing to a family sports car I can get without moving to an SUV. My wife has an SUV already but I could never live without a sports car.
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I'll be honest, I don't know my car plans atm. I am inching ever closer to a GT4 at this point. It isn't financially wise for me to mod my car any further.

Wanted to though. CS/GTS hood looks awesome
LOL looking to get a GT4 as well. I'm only hesitant because of the power and torque downgrade.
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LOL looking to get a GT4 as well. I'm only hesitant because of the power and torque downgrade.
It is currently just a thought but I really do want to. I actually do not mind the super linear power curve and lack of torque down low mainly because it evens out the street driving experience. Meaning, it isn't as annoyingly torquey the S55 tends to give you when you are slow crawling through traffic. Granted interior noise is probably more pronounced in the GT4 but changing up the tires would probably help that. I would need to drive it to really understand the car. Not expecting it to be too different from the .2 GT3 I was in but we will see.

My philosophy when it comes to cars has changed in recent years. Especially as I have gotten to know more about cars. I am not as worried about HP and Torque numbers now or even pure straight line speed. Most cars in the M range would give you a speeding ticket in less than 5 seconds lol. I don't see the point in having faster 0 - 60 anymore, we cannot use it to its fullest anyway most of the time.

Yeah I cannot do more mods on my M3 lol. Aside from not having room to store my original hood, the buyer would want to keep all the mods as I would try to sell it in "As In" condition.

jpy1980 Since my Macan GTS is now a December delivery, I technically do not need my M3. I do not want to sell my M3 as it is rather personal of a car for me but I just cannot hold both a M3 and a 718 GT4 together, especially with how OCD I am I would never drive either of them unless forced to.
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It is currently just a thought but I really do want to. I actually do not mind the super linear power curve and lack of torque down low mainly because it evens out the street driving experience. Meaning, it isn't as annoyingly torquey the S55 tends to give you when you are slow crawling through traffic. Granted interior noise is probably more pronounced in the GT4 but changing up the tires would probably help that. I would need to drive it to really understand the car. Not expecting it to be too different from the .2 GT3 I was in but we will see.

My philosophy when it comes to cars has changed in recent years. Especially as I have gotten to know more about cars. I am not as worried about HP and Torque numbers now or even pure straight line speed. Most cars in the M range would give you a speeding ticket in less than 5 seconds lol. I don't see the point in having faster 0 - 60 anymore, we cannot use it to its fullest anyway most of the time.

Yeah I cannot do more mods on my M3 lol. Aside from not having room to store my original hood, the buyer would want to keep all the mods as I would try to sell it in "As In" condition.

My M3 is pretty much my weekend and track toy, and that amount of torque is very fun in both auto-x and at the track. It helps make up some of my mistakes

I can keep up and sometimes get faster laps than the GT4's (and GT3's) I have come across unless they were on stickier tires or were simply better drivers than me, so it's not so much that I would miss the 0-60, but that my lap times might go down, which I know my track buddies WILL give me shit for. (You got a new GT4 and you are SLOWER?!) Which makes me want to just get a Cayman S and use the $ saved for full suspension and brake upgrades.
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My M3 is pretty much my weekend and track toy, and that amount of torque is very fun in both auto-x and at the track. It helps make up some of my mistakes

I can keep up and sometimes get faster laps than the GT4's (and GT3's) I have come across unless they were on stickier tires or were simply better drivers than me, so it's not so much that I would miss the 0-60, but that my lap times might go down, which I know my track buddies WILL give me shit for. (You got a new GT4 and you are SLOWER?!) Which makes me want to just get a Cayman S and use the $ saved for full suspension and brake upgrades.
From what I gather on Rennlist. The current GTS 4.0 is the sweet spot but Porsche fanatics are extremely hard for NA engines and absolutely dislike anything with turbo engines.

They just don't like the fact that their beloved Porsche sounds like Subaru WRX. Which really isn't a bad thing since the WRX with some minor exhaust changes sounds pretty good. But... you know... 60k Porsche sounding like a 30k WRX is a no no apparently.
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