Pandora Car Alarm System
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   BMW M3 and BMW M4 Forum > BMW F80 M3 / F82 M4 Forum > F80 M3 / M4 Pricing, Ordering, European Delivery

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      10-09-2020, 12:21 AM   #199
danchee
First Lieutenant
99
Rep
389
Posts

Drives: 21 X7 40i
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Rainy City

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Next Level Auto Brokers View Post
54% for 10k/36mo

2021 is 55% for 10k/36mo

lease cash is the same, so it's one of those weird times it's better to get a 2021 over a 2020 unless there is more than a 1% discount over the 2021

great question!
Thanks for the info. The 2021s are all super optioned out to outrageous prices, that's why I'm looking at the 2020.
Appreciate 0
      10-09-2020, 12:31 AM   #200
danchee
First Lieutenant
99
Rep
389
Posts

Drives: 21 X7 40i
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Rainy City

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Weltdriver View Post
How does it work with ED orders or would it be impossible to get 10% off M3 ED MSRP price?

Thank you!
They've stopped doing ED at this point. Who knows when it will return. They're not even doing Spartanburg delivery now.
Appreciate 0
      10-09-2020, 05:45 AM   #201
djiboutiman
Private First Class
12
Rep
100
Posts

Drives: 2016 BMW M3
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: CA

iTrader: (0)

Wife and I are looking to purchase an X5, but undecided if we should lease or buy one.
Any feedback pros and cons? Also, any potential discounts right now? I am in San Diego, CA. Thank you and appreciates any advise/help.
Appreciate 0
      10-09-2020, 02:03 PM   #202
Next Level Auto Brokers
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor
Next Level Auto Brokers's Avatar
United_States
289
Rep
300
Posts


Drives: BMW M4, Tesla MX 100D
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: NY, NY, CT, PA, MD, VA, DE, FL, CA, Nationwide shipping!

iTrader: (0)

The only time I recommend buying is if you are out of the 10k-15k miles per year allotment

Also, BMW artificially inflates their residuals so you are paying less depreciation on the lease and also paying a low MF (apr equivalent) so it's a win/win for the customer.

There are certain makes and models where it's either/or for finance or lease, but BMW is definitely a lease.

The 1 exception is the M2...must buy M2
Appreciate 0
      10-11-2020, 11:44 AM   #203
afwares
Lieutenant
afwares's Avatar
United_States
1138
Rep
557
Posts

Drives: 2018 M2 LCI 6MT LBB
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Chandler, AZ

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Next Level Auto Brokers View Post
The only time I recommend buying is if you are out of the 10k-15k miles per year allotment

Also, BMW artificially inflates their residuals so you are paying less depreciation on the lease and also paying a low MF (apr equivalent) so it's a win/win for the customer.

There are certain makes and models where it's either/or for finance or lease, but BMW is definitely a lease.

The 1 exception is the M2...must buy M2
Unless you own a business and can write off the lease, in which case the M2 leases just fine. And since the OG M2 had just plain old seats, and plain old mirrors, and a plain old engine, making it just another plain old BMW, it makes a plain old decent car for visiting and taking clients out to lunch ;-)

Great thread BTW, wouldn't be surprised if we hooked up somewhere along the way on a future M car...
Appreciate 1
      10-13-2020, 10:19 AM   #204
89Rustang
New Member
6
Rep
9
Posts

Drives: 2011 335xi
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Greater Boston

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Next Level Auto Brokers View Post
Just to make this more informative to the everyone, yes, you should target 10% off with a buy rate + whatever incentives you qualify for.

Yes these M340s are in high demand so YMMV. Here in the Northeast, it's 9-10% all day for inventory or ordered ones.
I'm looking at ordering one of these to lease in about a month or so. I am in MA and saw you could recommend someone?

Thanks!
__________________
2011 e90 335 xDrive Auto Space Grey
Loaded except Sport package
Appreciate 1
      10-18-2020, 05:48 PM   #205
BadBoostedBMWM3
Second Lieutenant
United_States
14
Rep
270
Posts

Drives: e36 M3, 2018 M3, 2021 X5 M50i
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Louisville, KY

iTrader: (0)

Where should I start to haggle on: x5/x7 m50i? The wife has been looking at both. Thank you in advance. Any bonus or hidden money available?
Appreciate 0
      10-18-2020, 09:08 PM   #206
Next Level Auto Brokers
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor
Next Level Auto Brokers's Avatar
United_States
289
Rep
300
Posts


Drives: BMW M4, Tesla MX 100D
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: NY, NY, CT, PA, MD, VA, DE, FL, CA, Nationwide shipping!

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by BadBoostedBMWM3 View Post
Where should I start to haggle on: x5/x7 m50i? The wife has been looking at both. Thank you in advance. Any bonus or hidden money available?
9-10% is an amazing discount on the M50s, both of which are in short supply.

Don't forget the base MF of .00082.

No, there is no hidden money
Appreciate 0
      10-18-2020, 10:10 PM   #207
BadBoostedBMWM3
Second Lieutenant
United_States
14
Rep
270
Posts

Drives: e36 M3, 2018 M3, 2021 X5 M50i
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Louisville, KY

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Next Level Auto Brokers View Post
9-10% is an amazing discount on the M50s, both of which are in short supply.

Don't forget the base MF of .00082.

No, there is no hidden money
Thank you, but what does that value mean?
Appreciate 0
      10-18-2020, 11:00 PM   #208
Next Level Auto Brokers
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor
Next Level Auto Brokers's Avatar
United_States
289
Rep
300
Posts


Drives: BMW M4, Tesla MX 100D
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: NY, NY, CT, PA, MD, VA, DE, FL, CA, Nationwide shipping!

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by BadBoostedBMWM3 View Post
Thank you, but what does that value mean?
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/money-factor.asp

it's the finance charge on a lease

the rate should be .00082 for October...dealers sometimes mark this up to make more money off unsuspecting customers
Appreciate 0
      10-19-2020, 12:18 AM   #209
BadBoostedBMWM3
Second Lieutenant
United_States
14
Rep
270
Posts

Drives: e36 M3, 2018 M3, 2021 X5 M50i
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Louisville, KY

iTrader: (0)

Thank you!
Appreciate 0
      10-20-2020, 12:03 PM   #210
DslDwg
Private First Class
DslDwg's Avatar
70
Rep
148
Posts

Drives: 2014 Z4 35is
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Houston, TX

iTrader: (0)

Just wanted to take a quick minute to express my appreciation to Dan @ Next Level. I wanted to wait before making a decision on the new M3/M4 so decided to look at buying one of the M4CS's still in Dealer stock around the country. I was not getting far with a dealer closer to home. Reached out to Dan who quickly found me a car but also gave me some additional tools to make the deal I was working on better.

Ultimately I did not buy through Next Level but he was a huge help and ultimately with the tools he gave me I did get an M4CS much closer to home.

I offered to pay him for his time which he declined.

Super stand up dude and if I can do business with him in the future I absolutely will!
Appreciate 3
      10-20-2020, 12:14 PM   #211
Next Level Auto Brokers
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor
Next Level Auto Brokers's Avatar
United_States
289
Rep
300
Posts


Drives: BMW M4, Tesla MX 100D
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: NY, NY, CT, PA, MD, VA, DE, FL, CA, Nationwide shipping!

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by DslDwg View Post
Just wanted to take a quick minute to express my appreciation to Dan @ Next Level. I wanted to wait before making a decision on the new M3/M4 so decided to look at buying one of the M4CS's still in Dealer stock around the country. I was not getting far with a dealer closer to home. Reached out to Dan who quickly found me a car but also gave me some additional tools to make the deal I was working on better.

Ultimately I did not buy through Next Level but he was a huge help and ultimately with the tools he gave me I did get an M4CS much closer to home.

I offered to pay him for his time which he declined.

Super stand up dude and if I can do business with him in the future I absolutely will!

Oh damn this is amazing!

So happy for you on M4CS! It's the best M car I've owned so I know you will love it!


Thank you for the high praise! I'm extremely humbled by it, and I hope to help anyone here just looking for some advice on how to know a good deal when he/she sees it.

Best,

DK
Appreciate 2
GNALUZU627.00
THEROK727.50

      10-20-2020, 03:02 PM   #212
itrocks4u
Colonel
United_States
370
Rep
2,123
Posts

Drives: F80, F36, E90
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Bay Area

iTrader: (3)

please help me with this if you are able to: https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/fo...play.php?f=504
Appreciate 0
      10-21-2020, 09:04 AM   #213
cobbyy
First Lieutenant
46
Rep
319
Posts

Drives: M4
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: SoCal

iTrader: (0)

What should be my target on leftover M4 convertibles?
Appreciate 0
      10-21-2020, 09:19 AM   #214
Next Level Auto Brokers
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor
Next Level Auto Brokers's Avatar
United_States
289
Rep
300
Posts


Drives: BMW M4, Tesla MX 100D
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: NY, NY, CT, PA, MD, VA, DE, FL, CA, Nationwide shipping!

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by itrocks4u View Post
please help me with this if you are able to: https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/fo...play.php?f=504
link doesn't work
Appreciate 0
      10-21-2020, 09:20 AM   #215
Next Level Auto Brokers
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor
Next Level Auto Brokers's Avatar
United_States
289
Rep
300
Posts


Drives: BMW M4, Tesla MX 100D
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: NY, NY, CT, PA, MD, VA, DE, FL, CA, Nationwide shipping!

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by cobbyy View Post
What should be my target on leftover M4 convertibles?
10-12%
.00082 MF or .9% finance charge

If they have them left, they probably aren't giving them away so it may not come close to that discount
Appreciate 0
      10-21-2020, 01:28 PM   #216
itrocks4u
Colonel
United_States
370
Rep
2,123
Posts

Drives: F80, F36, E90
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Bay Area

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Next Level Auto Brokers View Post
link doesn't work
Sorry, this should work:
https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1768160
Appreciate 0
      10-21-2020, 03:22 PM   #217
KingpenM3
Private
23
Rep
62
Posts

Drives: SS/SS ///M3
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Louisiana

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Next Level Auto Brokers View Post
The only time I recommend buying is if you are out of the 10k-15k miles per year allotment

Also, BMW artificially inflates their residuals so you are paying less depreciation on the lease and also paying a low MF (apr equivalent) so it's a win/win for the customer.

There are certain makes and models where it's either/or for finance or lease, but BMW is definitely a lease.

The 1 exception is the M2...must buy M2
I always tell people that the business model for BMW is that they want to sell every car twice. And Incentivize the process towards that model. Many examples of how leasing and then buying as a plan makes more sense that buying up front.
__________________
'16 ///M3 SS/SS ED-11/30/16 PCD-1/21/16
Appreciate 0
      10-22-2020, 08:41 AM   #218
Next Level Auto Brokers
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor
Next Level Auto Brokers's Avatar
United_States
289
Rep
300
Posts


Drives: BMW M4, Tesla MX 100D
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: NY, NY, CT, PA, MD, VA, DE, FL, CA, Nationwide shipping!

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by KingpenM3 View Post
I always tell people that the business model for BMW is that they want to sell every car twice. And Incentivize the process towards that model. Many examples of how leasing and then buying as a plan makes more sense that buying up front.
I'm going to start using that instead of the "artificially inflates residual blah blah"

thank you!
Appreciate 0
      10-22-2020, 02:02 PM   #219
aerostar
Major
673
Rep
1,226
Posts

Drives: 2018 F80
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: NJ

iTrader: (0)

What % off for a X5?
Appreciate 0
      10-23-2020, 07:40 PM   #220
Next Level Auto Brokers
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor
Next Level Auto Brokers's Avatar
United_States
289
Rep
300
Posts


Drives: BMW M4, Tesla MX 100D
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: NY, NY, CT, PA, MD, VA, DE, FL, CA, Nationwide shipping!

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by aerostar View Post
What % off for a X5?
9-10% dealer discount
base mf .00082
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:41 PM.




f80post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST