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      10-04-2020, 06:29 AM   #1
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Carbon spoilers, M-Performance VS M4cs and why

M-Performance vs M4cs carbon spoiler which and why......

I kinda like the cs bit it looks like a afterthought IMOP. The front is nice but the rear....well curious what others think

I think they should have designed it like the RKP spoiler I had on the M2 and wrap around the back of the trunk lip slightly
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      10-04-2020, 09:59 PM   #2
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m performance is nicer than every spoiler option in my opinion.

High kick photographs well but in person can look ghetto unless the build suits it (big diffuser, lowered etc)

CS only looks good on a CS to me idk why
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Just googled this after reading the OP. Cosmetic or functional - depends how fast you drive.

Personally, I chose the 3-D Style for everything less the trunk which is CS Style.

This guys is pretty entertaining. Too much coffee??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXjiThF1LXU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Woq-nl9QyfQ
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Just googled this after reading the OP. Cosmetic or functional - depends how fast you drive.

Personally, I chose the 3-D Style for everything less the trunk which is CS Style.

This guys is pretty entertaining. Too much coffee??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXjiThF1LXU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Woq-nl9QyfQ
that shit is unbearable.
the information is correct but does it have to be delivered in the style of a daytime kids tv show?
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      10-05-2020, 07:31 PM   #5
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Yeh I thought that at first as well and almost turned it off. But I stuck it out and started to enjoy his over the top presentation, some of which was actually pretty funny (if you like stupid gag humour).

Here's a version just for you!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GApwSjKYUpQ

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My vote is for sterckenn. Its a cross between the two and so well planned to the cars body lines
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My vote is for sterckenn. Its a cross between the two and so well planned to the cars body lines
sterckenn is nice but agency power one looks identical and cost $300 less.
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sterckenn is nice but agency power one looks identical and cost $300 less.
Whoopsss forgot the m3 and m4 styles were different i have and love their m3 design. Sorry!! Id go bmwp for the m4 for sure, even though its very common
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We offer both, i prefer the CS spoiler it looks better in my opinion
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I have the MP style but it seems to be non-existent on the rear of the car. The CS style is more prevalent....
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Both add functional downforce, I believe the cs one provides more downforce.
You should consider the choice in unison with any choice of front aero, some people have created very bad aerodynamics in handling and learned the hard way by being careless.

I'm guessing the cs rear spoiler was specifically engineered to match the rest of the aerodynamics on the cs. I can't stand how it looks though. Instead of following the beautiful lines of the m performance rear spoiler by going around the corner of the bootlid, it just sits right on top in a plain way and that makes it look like an average spoiler.
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Both add functional downforce, I believe the cs one provides more downforce.
You should consider the choice in unison with any choice of front aero, some people have created very bad aerodynamics in handling and learned the hard way by being careless.

I'm guessing the cs rear spoiler was specifically engineered to match the rest of the aerodynamics on the cs. I can't stand how it looks though. Instead of following the beautiful lines of the m performance rear spoiler by going around the corner of the bootlid, it just sits right on top in a plain way and that makes it look like an average spoiler.
My feelings exactly... looks like a glue on after thought
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CS Spoiler

Apples or oranges
Blondes or redheads
Sedans or coupe
Which is better is irrelevant.
It's no more than a matter of personal preference, unless your an engineer, which I am not.

To me, it's a beautiful sight. To me, your choice I might not prefer.

But I would respect you enough not to tell you to your face that your wife, car, or spoiler was ugly.

That's why we have a million models of cars and who really needs them?

OK, here it is. My CS spoiler. Go ahead and denigrate it, cuss it and tell the world how bad it looks. Don't worry, you won't hurt my feelings or the feelings of the thousand other guys who have chosen this particular design. We all still prefer it and likely wouldn't waste our breath talking about any other design, because we respect the other guys right to like something else.

I love these pointless discussions!
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Apples or oranges
Blondes or redheads
Sedans or coupe
Which is better is irrelevant.
It's no more than a matter of personal preference, unless your an engineer, which I am not.

To me, it's a beautiful sight. To me, your choice I might not prefer.

But I would respect you enough not to tell you to your face that your wife, car, or spoiler was ugly.

That's why we have a million models of cars and who really needs them?

OK, here it is. My CS spoiler. Go ahead and denigrate it, cuss it and tell the world how bad it looks. Don't worry, you won't hurt my feelings or the feelings of the thousand other guys who have chosen this particular design. We all still prefer it and likely wouldn't waste our breath talking about any other design, because we respect the other guys right to like something else.

I love these pointless discussions!
That was good
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I'm comfortable with my preferences being challenged but I guess not everyone is. People asserting their opinions that challenge yours, shouldn't be confused for disrespect or a challenge to your right to your opinions.

No reason why there couldn't be a high quality discussion about design if people wanted to take it there instead of arguing about how pointless it is. It's great to hear different perspectives and it's worth it for me to attempt to engage at a level beyond "you like that fullstop I dislike that fullstop" because I often find I learn something worthwhile and interesting.
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I know just think....some find the G82 attractive
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I know just think....some find the G82 attractive
see you could easily get into all kinds of psychological discussion on a topic like that
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CS lip, in my opinion looks like a snow plow, must be a north east thing for me..
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My vote is for sterckenn. Its a cross between the two and so well planned to the cars body lines
sterckenn is nice but agency power one looks identical and cost $300 less.
I have no experience with AP but can comment on Sterckenn products. Yes, they are $$$ but the quality is on point. I have their "fangs" on my F80 and my good friend has the trunk spoiler. If you have the funds and don't want to be concerned w/fitment or quality...pull the trigger.
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CS lip, in my opinion looks like a snow plow, must be a north east thing for me..
And to me it looks like the best lip for the M3 so far, everyone is different. I have a CS front and back on my stockish looking M3 (basic CF sideskirts and M diffuser, drop) and everyone I know likes it, get plenty of good comments at lights/ gas stations from other car guys
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I love my CS spoiler. Best one IMO. I waited a couple years to get a used OEM one. Besides getting springs, best $400 I spent on my car.
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